Autos v. Photos - A 5x5 No Rules Fight for Yield: A Jon & NickHardy Gig

Please send me a reliable test kit so I can prove you so wrong.
There isn't such a thing that I’m aware of. Purpl machines are about $1200 and meant to be way unreliable. Gemmacert that you get here are $5000 each. Then like $50,000 for a full spectrometer. Its not the sort of thing done with a reaction test.

There are literally thousands of testers in the US. The one Shed tipped me to in LA will accept from anywhere (but not Thailand)

Everyone who has ever had weed actually tested will tell you it comes in sometimes less than half indicated. And remember that’s your best nug on the plant you can send off - everything else will be lower.

You’re not going to be the lone outlier hitting 25%+ each time. I suspect but you don’t need to be - 17-23% fucks anyone up you got the right blend of other cannabinoids and terps.

I reckon they grow pygmy or bonsai plants just for testing as well. Something makes sense to me that they would tick higher in strength grown as small as possible.
 
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Still so green, apart from the yellow from hot air expelled by the dehuey. That’s a week of the 1-0-0 cal mag as well. Down from 4-0-0.

End of week 8. Maybe another week. Pulling buds apart looking for mould daily.

Close. They’re getting close. My fingers smell pretty great from the Bubba Kush. That’s a special smell. Nicer than the more utilitarian OGK.

Nick
 
From my experience it's not all about the potency. Genetics and how well it's been grown plays a big part. Some sativa's taken too early can be very anxiety laden.

Genetics and ripeness. I thinks there's many things in interaction that creates the entourage effects.
Thanks @Wastei - well, in my experience, as someone who used to take their buds way too early, I’d have to agree with the ripeness part especially. It can be gauged by the degree to which it causes you that specific chest bind that only comes from smoking early harvest buds. Sativas harvested properly (full ripeness, let’s define that as 85-90% pure and fully white and 10–15% fully mature darkish amber, fair enough?) will produce this effect in the chest, but to a manageable degree. An early sativa will make that effect much more intense, almost and sometimes uncomfortable. I’ve taken them at fully white but no amber in an attempt to get max thc level, and for sativas that’s often too early in terms of a manageable chest bind. Indicas are the same way, however, with indicas, since they’re gonna be on the “down” or “couchlock” side by nature, the chest bind from an earlier harvest seems to be mitigated to some extent. I often take indicas at all white in an attempt to make them more “up.” Never had a chest bind issue with indicas. Some folks, me included, like a bit of the bind effect. It’s sorta like right when a line of good coke starts to hit you. According to what some people I know say. :rofl: So yeah, ripeness is key. And there you have some very unscientific data to support the point. Lmao!
 
There isn't such a thing that I’m aware of. Purpl machines are about $1200 and meant to be way unreliable. Gemmacert that you get here are $5000 each. Then like $50,000 for a full spectrometer. Its not the sort of thing done with a reaction test.

There are literally thousands of testers in the US. The one Shed tipped me to in LA will accept from anywhere (but not Thailand)

Everyone who has ever had weed actually tested will tell you it comes in sometimes less than half indicated. And remember that’s your best nug on the plant you can send off - everything else will be lower.

You’re not going to be the lone outlier hitting 25%+ each time. I suspect but you don’t need to be - 17-23% fucks anyone up you got the right blend of other cannabinoids and terps.

I reckon they grow pygmy or bonsai plants just for testing as well. Something makes sense to me that they would tick higher in strength grown as small as possible.
Interesting.
 
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Still so green, apart from the yellow from hot air expelled by the dehuey. That’s a week of the 1-0-0 cal mag as well. Down from 4-0-0.

End of week 8. Maybe another week. Pulling buds apart looking for mould daily.

Close. They’re getting close. My fingers smell pretty great from the Bubba Kush. That’s a special smell. Nicer than the more utilitarian OGK.

Nick
It looks like so much! You still standing by that 400g. prediction? Looks like more than that.
 
@NickHardy - smoking bud for this morning is the Blackberry Moonrocks from my last grow. This strain is very strong. Don’t know or want to guess at this point, but if I could test, this is one of mine I’d test. This bud will waste anyone here. Sure, that alone doesn’t equal high thc necessarily, I get that. But I said anyone here. Here. Anyone. The guys 420 knows and others who run full time pro grow ops, you, anyone. It’s higher than 22%, I’d bet a lot on it.

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500-550g plants and buds in number snd size all twice as big last grow in here and hit 1058g. About half that makes sense.
We may end up close. Losing the Trizkit hurt bad. And although the BB#3 looks and smells and will be amazing, it’s not as big as it seems on the pictures and is not a 10 ounce plant. More like 6. The two Gorilla Cookies are huge dense strands of pearls, they’ll be fine. The Apple Fritter is gigantic too. And the two organics are both at least 4, maybe more. I feel I’m looking at about three pounds.
 
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This thing is way too huge and majestic after vegging for 90 days or so to sacrifice. I moved it into the closet to spread her out and make her have a canopy of sorts, and to open up the tent for the other plants. The tent is not too far from being empty, or at least left with the Apple Fritter only. That plant is pretty far along, so I wouldn’t be crushed to finish it on 12/12 for its last couple weeks. Once the two GCs, the two Organics, and the BB#3 are out this beast will go back into the tent to finish, along with the AF most likely.

Here’s the girl. Her canopy diameter is 58”, or 4’10”. My closet is five feet across.

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Pound - pound and a half!

Oh! Good-o!

Oh, not so close then.

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Worry not - if you asked anyone here who knows me they’d all tell you the same thing I will: I literally suck ass at estimating harvest yields. I’m always wrong, and I always estimate higher than it is. Lmao. But that said, it’s literally impossible to not break TWO pounds. Impossible. The two GCs and the AF by themselves come close to that. Plus the organics. Def 2+. So idk. We will see soon enough. Sounds like we are both watching paint dry, which sucks. Lol.
 
Gorilla Cookies (10 coco Cyco)
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I wanted some clear closeups to get an idea of what I’m looking at with this girl. She isn’t close. As you can see. Good example. To look at her, if that was your only point of assessment, she looks perfect. Ready. Dense and big. Fading. Etc. But as is clear here, (lol, no trichome pun intended) her ‘chromes are all clear. Window ain’t even open yet. This plant is going to get bigger and denser, and phewie, what a strain. Bravo @Fast Buds.

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Gorilla Cookies (10 coco Cyco)
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I wanted some clear closeups to get an idea of what I’m looking at with this girl. She isn’t close. As you can see. Good example. To look at her, if that was your only point of assessment, she looks perfect. Ready. Dense and big. Fading. Etc. But as is clear here, (lol, no trichome pun intended) her ‘chromes are all clear. Window ain’t even open yet. This plant is going to get bigger and denser, and phewie, what a strain. Bravo @Fast Buds.

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Great pics!.. how do you get them?
 
Great pics!.. how do you get them?
Hey @Olddog Newtrick, thanks! I use a hand held scope off of Amazon, a $40 relative cheapie, with the 8-LEDs on the inside of the front cup that adjust with a little knob and using an app sends the pics to your cellphone. Then I edit, so it’s pretty easy. The scope has 50-1000X zoom, and then five levels of closeup, so by messing around a bit and finding the balance between focus and “in your face,” (lol) I snap a few and hope I get lucky. It’s very simple in theory. The hard part is, if you want to get a closeup like these, you gotta have an unimaginably steady hand. I have a steady hand, but not that steady, few do. I take the pictures off a dense bud and usually push it up against the cola behind it to steady it. I try to find a spot where I can hold the scope steady against a relatively unmoving and solid bud with one hand, as you need the other hand to take the picture. That said, you don’t really, cuz the scope has a button to take the pics too. But it’s not placed advantageously to use it to take the shots, so u do that with the other hand, typically with the cell phone on my lap. Remember, I’m in a chair, so I always have a lap. In this case, a rare one, lol, it might be advantageous, as a standing person would have to steady the phone somewhere else.

That’s as detailed as I can tell you, fwiw!

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Hey @Olddog Newtrick, thanks! I use a hand held scope off of Amazon, a $40 relative cheapie, with the 8-LEDs on the inside of the front cup that adjust with a little knob and using an app sends the pics to your cellphone. Then I edit, so it’s pretty easy. The scope has 50-1000X zoom, and then five levels of closeup, so by messing around a bit and finding the balance between focus and “in your face,” (lol) I snap a few and hope I get lucky. It’s very simple in theory. The hard part is, if you want to get a closeup like these, you gotta have an unimaginably steady hand. I have a steady hand, but not that steady, few do. I take the pictures off a dense bud and usually push it up against the cola behind it to steady it. I try to find a spot where I can hold the scope steady against a relatively unmoving and solid bud with one hand, as you need the other hand to take the picture. That said, you don’t really, cuz the scope has a button to take the pics too. But it’s not placed advantageously to use it to take the shots, so u do that with the other hand, typically with the cell phone on my lap. Remember, I’m in a chair, so I always have a lap. In this case, a rare one, lol, it might be advantageous, as a standing person would have to steady the phone somewhere else.

That’s as detailed as I can tell you, fwiw!
This one? Amazon.com
I have a 50 loupe and a 100x scope thing, and I still can’t seem to get a decent look at my trics.
Crawling on the floor with my face mashed up against the plants, nodding my head in and out looking like a chicken trying to focus while everything sways back and forth isn’t working well. So I need to try something different.
 
This one? Amazon.com
I have a 50 loupe and a 100x scope thing, and I still can’t seem to get a decent look at my trics.
Crawling on the floor with my face mashed up against the plants, nodding my head in and out looking like a chicken trying to focus while everything sways back and forth isn’t working well. So I need to try something different.
Ah, the dreaded loupe. Lol!! I remember how psyched I was when my first loupe arrived - towards the end of my first grow, before I was here (got here on my second grow). I thought I was gonna see like in these pictures. :rofl: :rofl: Then the reality of that $9 loupe, which was about as big as a quarter, hit me. Lol! So o feel your pain. Yeah these work great. I just ordered another one that comes Tuesday cuz I dropped this one a bunch of times. Not quite the one you showed, but same thing. It was $34 or something like that.
This one, it looks identical to the one you showed.
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How often do you scrape the scope for hash?

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I actually scraped that rim one time when it was about twice as bad as in the picture. I used a blade and got a small bong hit of really hard hashy stuff that was in the curved shape of the bowl as it came off in pieces. And sure I smoked it. It was as good as any kief I had. Lol! All that is is straight up 100% trichomes. Lmao.
 
Ah, the dreaded loupe. Lol!! I remember how psyched I was when my first loupe arrived - towards the end of my first grow, before I was here (got here on my second grow). I thought I was gonna see like in these pictures. :rofl: :rofl: Then the reality of that $9 loupe, which was about as big as a quarter, hit me. Lol! So o feel your pain. Yeah these work great. I just ordered another one that comes Tuesday cuz I dropped this one a bunch of times. Not quite the one you showed, but same thing. It was $34 or something like that.
This one, it looks identical to the one you showed.
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Sweet, cuz I already ordered it.. lol
I had been looking for something like this.
It’s hard to look at 50 trics and make a judgement call on them when they are out of focus or gone in a split second. At least now if I can get a pic, I can look over it as long as I wish.
Thank you for the recommendation!
 
Sweet, cuz I already ordered it.. lol
I had been looking for something like this.
It’s hard to look at 50 trics and make a judgement call on them when they are out of focus or gone in a split second. At least now if I can get a pic, I can look over it as long as I wish.
Thank you for the recommendation!
Yeah man! You’ll be super psyched. Especially compared to your current technology. You’re gonna feel like the Egyptians when the Annunaki came down. Lmao! I use the static tray thing instead of hand holding it when I harvest or for when I take tester buds. Then you can lay the bud flat on the tray and adjust with the wheel and get a super solid and super focused shot, cuz you can completely take your time. Vs trying to get a picture before the bud moves a little and you lose your shot. Ha! You’ll see. Have a blast! When you first get one of these the first time it’s really cool and like Christmas Day. You’ll be looking at the fabric in your pants and stuff. Lmao. Enjoy!
 
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