I don't use coco. My apologies for casting aspersions on the type you use.
Autos v. Photos - A 5x5 No Rules Fight for Yield: A Jon & NickHardy Gig
- Thread starter Jon
- Start date
- Thread starter
- #502
Besides Shed, surely you know by now that I know if you ask a question it’s to the end of helping someone.I was just confused not responding with wtf. Just surprising. When NH said the bricks I realized you must have been talking about those. I’m way too lazy for that shit..
- Thread starter
- #503
Lol! Again, lease don’t misinterpret my tone! I wasn’t cowing you with the response nor do I get offended over such mundane crap! No reason to apologize or otherwise and if my tone indicates that need that my bad.
- Thread starter
- #504
Thanks SSgrower. I was trying to generate some
mojo. Lmao.
- Thread starter
- #505
Me too @Bill284! No it was simply rain on the bags inside the box they were shipped in and the coco was wet. No drips, just wet. No mold that I saw. No color difference. Just seemed like wet coco, I thought the same as you. Idk.Good morning Jon.
Your problem confuses me.
Rain water should have zero negative effects on your girls.
We're the bags ripped?
Is it possible something other than rain water came in contact with the coco.
I've grown coco outside before, in the pouring rain usually.
Didn't adversely effect the coco.
Something must have happened while the bags were compromised.
What brand is it?
Take care.
Talk soon.
Stay safe
Bill284
- Thread starter
- #506
However, putting together what me and you thought with Sheds question about rinsing and drying, along with advance knowledge that those bricks you DO have to rinse and dry, says to me wet is problematic for whatever they reasons. Otherwise, why do you have to dry those brick bales? Why not just wash and put in wet? Why the drying? Well, maybe cuz if you plant into wet this shit happens?
- Thread starter
- #507
Variegation can be genetic but not the magnesium deficiency.
Bricks??
I thought is was a bag.
Bricks aren't pre-washed
Who knows what was in there just waiting to grow .
Could have been any number of things!
Stay safe
Bill284
- Thread starter
- #510
Right @InTheShed! The off green stripey coloration stuff doesn’t concern me. But that deficiency made no sense whatsoever to me and I identified it the same as you. It’s not the nutes. The nutes don’t matter, same dumb stuff on any wet coco plant, and besides, we already factually know that PB veg mix is perfection. No way that’s the reason. But regarding the variegation, there does seem to be a lot more of it than I’ve ever seen by a lot. As such, I’m not sure all the discolored areas are necessarily variegation though, it’s too prevalent on all the wet coco plants. So can you think of any reason that wet coco as mine was would cause a deficiency of any sort? Maybe it was wet long enough that something mold related that I could not see affected the medium enough to do this but not enough to kill or super negatively affect a plant? Cuz they’re all jamming their asses off. If anything, it seems like faster than usual growth. For that reason and the fact that now they all look good and seem past this crap, I ruled out some wild PH fluctuation thing. Anyway it’s water under the bridge now. I can see as they get bigger they get past it. It’s almost all done it appears. I have the feeling that if i’d have let the bags stay wet and unused a little longer this would be worse.
- Thread starter
- #511
No not bricks for me, I use the bags! Good stuff. Just saying if you forgot to dry those bricks after washing before you use them, would that also cause this? Why the drying step with bricks? Why not just wash and use wet? That’s what I was wondering about.Bricks??
I thought is was a bag.
Bricks aren't pre-washed
Who knows what was in there just waiting to grow .
Could have been any number of things!
Stay safe
Bill284
Dunno enough about coco to sort out why getting wet first would be an issue, but if this is the result:
Since new growth is looking fine then nothing to be done, but a touch of epsom salts would be a possibility if it continues.
it should be standard operating procedure going forward!
Since new growth is looking fine then nothing to be done, but a touch of epsom salts would be a possibility if it continues.
I heart gas…
Rewatched some King of Tulsa last night. Stallone’s best role I reckon. A fight over hippy crack gas is violent and funny
. Lots set in a dispensary too.- Thread starter
- #514
Thanks Shed - how does one apply Epsom salts and what’s a “touch?”
I thought the streets would be to busy to run NOS in your truck Nick 
As for this Coco don't forget it was shipped and stored a few times before your hands so sometimes it happens. Rain water would have nothing to trade with your Coco to make a difference. But should something down the road have then I read somewhere it's usually one week after first feed it fixes itself then will be back to beast mode straight after. If I get time I'll try to dig the read out but I'm trying 100% used Coco for a grow so had to read a bit on it. I just have the worst memory
As for this Coco don't forget it was shipped and stored a few times before your hands so sometimes it happens. Rain water would have nothing to trade with your Coco to make a difference. But should something down the road have then I read somewhere it's usually one week after first feed it fixes itself then will be back to beast mode straight after. If I get time I'll try to dig the read out but I'm trying 100% used Coco for a grow so had to read a bit on it. I just have the worst memory
- Thread starter
- #516
In the Auto Corner on Day 18
Morning guys. It seems in a mere 18 days it’s already time for me to start doing the actual work of this grow. All the hours and effort I’ve poured in so far has not been the actual work - the work, and the victory ensuring stuff, begins now. These girls are pretty much all going gangbusters, the difference you see in sizes of plants are relative to date planted. But of the oldest batch, the two that appear to want to take over are the two coco Gorilla Cookies. These plants are insane. And now that the Apple Fritter has numerous roots almost 8” deep in the res already, she’s about to go apeshit too. The other first batcher is the Bruce Banner, maybe my early favorite plant. She’s stocky and powerful with thick stems and killer spacing. Have a feeling she’s special. The plants are one day further from the whatever startup issues in the wet coco and look better every day. This really ain’t bad as it is.
So over the next few days, there will be topping. Much topping. Thing about that is, in the style I’m using, whatever height I top the tallest plant at is the height at which I begin to establish the 9-plant, 6-strain, 3-grow styles, non-netted canopy we are shooting for here. And I also have to consider that shortly the two water plants are going to begin to overcome the others in size. I can already see from the Apple Fritter that will be the case. Therefore it would seem to make sense to allow for that when picking canopy height. I am hoping for and shooting for filling this space corner to corner in the next 22 days, which would have me with an established canopy on day 40, and which should be about when we are flowering.
So what node I top them on is not the determinate factor here as it usually is. The actual vertical height is more the point of the spear. But I can’t wait more than a day or two longer.
The organics are all looking awesome and appear to be enjoying my little soil mix and choice/volume of particular inputs. I’m very excited I will have organic Cherry Pie to compare to the chem/coco batch I’m sitting on. The Skywalker is big, the Gorilla Cookies is perfection, and the Northern Lights brings up the rear.
There’s my day 18 update @NickHardy. Btw - word to the wise: do not go to concerts with two six foot tall nitrous tanks and attempt to make 10K in one night. The DEA and concert security people very much frown on that. It’s also a scumbag thing to do, selling nitrous. It’s like taking candy from every baby you pass. (As long as Nitrous Nick is dragging up my long buried nitrous nightmares). Lmao!!!
Here’s a front back view and closeups on the Bruce Banner and Apple Fritter.
Morning guys. It seems in a mere 18 days it’s already time for me to start doing the actual work of this grow. All the hours and effort I’ve poured in so far has not been the actual work - the work, and the victory ensuring stuff, begins now. These girls are pretty much all going gangbusters, the difference you see in sizes of plants are relative to date planted. But of the oldest batch, the two that appear to want to take over are the two coco Gorilla Cookies. These plants are insane. And now that the Apple Fritter has numerous roots almost 8” deep in the res already, she’s about to go apeshit too. The other first batcher is the Bruce Banner, maybe my early favorite plant. She’s stocky and powerful with thick stems and killer spacing. Have a feeling she’s special. The plants are one day further from the whatever startup issues in the wet coco and look better every day. This really ain’t bad as it is.
So over the next few days, there will be topping. Much topping. Thing about that is, in the style I’m using, whatever height I top the tallest plant at is the height at which I begin to establish the 9-plant, 6-strain, 3-grow styles, non-netted canopy we are shooting for here. And I also have to consider that shortly the two water plants are going to begin to overcome the others in size. I can already see from the Apple Fritter that will be the case. Therefore it would seem to make sense to allow for that when picking canopy height. I am hoping for and shooting for filling this space corner to corner in the next 22 days, which would have me with an established canopy on day 40, and which should be about when we are flowering.
So what node I top them on is not the determinate factor here as it usually is. The actual vertical height is more the point of the spear. But I can’t wait more than a day or two longer.
The organics are all looking awesome and appear to be enjoying my little soil mix and choice/volume of particular inputs. I’m very excited I will have organic Cherry Pie to compare to the chem/coco batch I’m sitting on. The Skywalker is big, the Gorilla Cookies is perfection, and the Northern Lights brings up the rear.
There’s my day 18 update @NickHardy. Btw - word to the wise: do not go to concerts with two six foot tall nitrous tanks and attempt to make 10K in one night. The DEA and concert security people very much frown on that. It’s also a scumbag thing to do, selling nitrous. It’s like taking candy from every baby you pass. (As long as Nitrous Nick is dragging up my long buried nitrous nightmares). Lmao!!!
Here’s a front back view and closeups on the Bruce Banner and Apple Fritter.
Plants look good (look out @NickHardy )In the Auto Corner on Day 18
Morning guys. It seems in a mere 18 days it’s already time for me to start doing the actual work of this grow. All the hours and effort I’ve poured in so far has not been the actual work - the work, and the victory ensuring stuff, begins now. These girls are pretty much all going gangbusters, the difference you see in sizes of plants are relative to date planted. But of the oldest batch, the two that appear to want to take over are the two coco Gorilla Cookies. These plants are insane. And now that the Apple Fritter has numerous roots almost 8” deep in the res already, she’s about to go apeshit too. The other first batcher is the Bruce Banner, maybe my early favorite plant. She’s stocky and powerful with thick stems and killer spacing. Have a feeling she’s special. The plants are one day further from the whatever startup issues in the wet coco and look better every day. This really ain’t bad as it is.
So over the next few days, there will be topping. Much topping. Thing about that is, in the style I’m using, whatever height I top the tallest plant at is the height at which I begin to establish the 9-plant, 6-strain, 3-grow styles, non-netted canopy we are shooting for here. And I also have to consider that shortly the two water plants are going to begin to overcome the others in size. I can already see from the Apple Fritter that will be the case. Therefore it would seem to make sense to allow for that when picking canopy height. I am hoping for and shooting for filling this space corner to corner in the next 22 days, which would have me with an established canopy on day 40, and which should be about when we are flowering.
So what node I top them on is not the determinate factor here as it usually is. The actual vertical height is more the point of the spear. But I can’t wait more than a day or two longer.
The organics are all looking awesome and appear to be enjoying my little soil mix and choice/volume of particular inputs. I’m very excited I will have organic Cherry Pie to compare to the chem/coco batch I’m sitting on. The Skywalker is big, the Gorilla Cookies is perfection, and the Northern Lights brings up the rear.
There’s my day 18 update @NickHardy. Btw - word to the wise: do not go to concerts with two six foot tall nitrous tanks and attempt to make 10K in one night. The DEA and concert security people very much frown on that. It’s also a scumbag thing to do, selling nitrous. It’s like taking candy from every baby you pass. (As long as Nitrous Nick is dragging up my long buried nitrous nightmares). Lmao!!!
Here’s a front back view and closeups on the Bruce Banner and Apple Fritter.
What are the 2 blue things?
- Thread starter
- #518
Those are the pumps for the air stones in each of the two reservoirs. They’re both the same and both very powerful, and if I had two short air lines I could run both 4” stones with one. But the long run to the Apple Fritter necessitated using both, and they have an infinite sweep power adjustment knob that works great, so I can tweak the bubbles.
Sounds like a lot of hard work!
I’m a bit busy now watering my plants.
Catch up soon.
Nick
I’m a bit busy now watering my plants.
Catch up soon.
Nick
- Thread starter
- #520
Additional information:In the Auto Corner on Day 18
Morning guys. It seems in a mere 18 days it’s already time for me to start doing the actual work of this grow. All the hours and effort I’ve poured in so far has not been the actual work - the work, and the victory ensuring stuff, begins now. These girls are pretty much all going gangbusters, the difference you see in sizes of plants are relative to date planted. But of the oldest batch, the two that appear to want to take over are the two coco Gorilla Cookies. These plants are insane. And now that the Apple Fritter has numerous roots almost 8” deep in the res already, she’s about to go apeshit too. The other first batcher is the Bruce Banner, maybe my early favorite plant. She’s stocky and powerful with thick stems and killer spacing. Have a feeling she’s special. The plants are one day further from the whatever startup issues in the wet coco and look better every day. This really ain’t bad as it is.
So over the next few days, there will be topping. Much topping. Thing about that is, in the style I’m using, whatever height I top the tallest plant at is the height at which I begin to establish the 9-plant, 6-strain, 3-grow styles, non-netted canopy we are shooting for here. And I also have to consider that shortly the two water plants are going to begin to overcome the others in size. I can already see from the Apple Fritter that will be the case. Therefore it would seem to make sense to allow for that when picking canopy height. I am hoping for and shooting for filling this space corner to corner in the next 22 days, which would have me with an established canopy on day 40, and which should be about when we are flowering.
So what node I top them on is not the determinate factor here as it usually is. The actual vertical height is more the point of the spear. But I can’t wait more than a day or two longer.
The organics are all looking awesome and appear to be enjoying my little soil mix and choice/volume of particular inputs. I’m very excited I will have organic Cherry Pie to compare to the chem/coco batch I’m sitting on. The Skywalker is big, the Gorilla Cookies is perfection, and the Northern Lights brings up the rear.
There’s my day 18 update @NickHardy. Btw - word to the wise: do not go to concerts with two six foot tall nitrous tanks and attempt to make 10K in one night. The DEA and concert security people very much frown on that. It’s also a scumbag thing to do, selling nitrous. It’s like taking candy from every baby you pass. (As long as Nitrous Nick is dragging up my long buried nitrous nightmares). Lmao!!!
Here’s a front back view and closeups on the Bruce Banner and Apple Fritter.
Today I fill the res on the Gorilla Cookies. We have three days left of Cyco week 3. It’ll take a few days for the poking through roots to legit get into the water, so given those factors I will water up top for three more days of week 3 while filling the res with week 4.
The extra scary one time Cyco nute application of the Grow XL is listed for week 3. However, just to be safe, I decided to put that off til the start of week 4 and allow the plants to be bigger before dumping in a 40% phosphate solution. This will also dramatically lower ph temporarily and Cyco hips you to the need to watch that. In theory, based on me researching this on several sites for hours, it’s going to make the plants stretch like crazy for a short time. That seemed to be the consensus I found among growers who have used it. Still, it’s scary as shit cuz these plants are so sweet I almost decided to blow it off entirely. Then I started hearing “no guts no glory” in my head. Heh.