Autos v. Photos - A 5x5 No Rules Fight for Yield: A Jon & NickHardy Gig

[Jon]

Gorgeous Jon. Nice work! That apex cola is a beauty!

I had always watered in the wet dry cycle all the way through until I started hanging at your place. While I understand the keep it moist in flower thing, it is a bit tricky at first to find the balance, and as you see from the tips, I tend to err on the wet side. Thus my recent questions and interactions with you there. So thanks. She’ll be fine.

 

[Gee64]

I had always watered in the wet dry cycle all the way through until I started hanging at your place. While I understand the keep it moist in flower thing, it is a bit tricky at first to find the balance, and as you see from the tips, I tend to err on the wet side. Thus my recent questions and interactions with you there. So thanks. She’ll be fine.

Yeah it takes a bit to get the hang of steady proper soil moisture. Once rooting is finished the wet/dry cycle becomes less necessary. Shoot for steamy, not wet.

A cheapo dollar store water stick, single probe, will help with getting it dialed.

 

[Jon]

Yeah it takes a bit to get the hang of steady proper soil moisture. Once rooting is finished the wet/dry cycle becomes less necessary. Shoot for steamy, not wet.

A cheapo dollar store water stick, single probe, will help with getting it dialed.

Yup that’s exactly what I have. Great cheap tool.

 

[Jon]

Yeah it takes a bit to get the hang of steady proper soil moisture. Once rooting is finished the wet/dry cycle becomes less necessary. Shoot for steamy, not wet.

A cheapo dollar store water stick, single probe, will help with getting it dialed.

Yes I have a question about that. When I’m reading in the dry or bottoms of moist in the top half but still in the middle of moist below that to the bottom, I have been doing a slow “top water only” attempt thing. Real slow and just enough to wet the top some more in theory. Is that okay to do or should I just wait til the whole pot is at bottom moist?

 

[Gee64]

Yes I have a question about that. When I’m reading in the dry or bottoms of moist in the top half but still in the middle of moist below that to the bottom, I have been doing a slow “top water only” attempt thing. Real slow and just enough to wet the top some more in theory. Is that okay to do or should I just wait til the whole pot is at bottom moist?

In veg I let the bottoms dry down a bit and the top a lot, to cycle wet and dry for root growth, but in flower I try for a perfect constant 5ish as consistently thru the whole pot as possible.

Some strains require more oxygen, so go a bit drier but still as evenly moist as possible.

Your seed description should have a tell in it. Drier, moister, drought tolerant, that sort of thing.

Anything drought tolerant translates into "requires more oxygen", easy and forgiving translates into dead centre on the meter.

Requiring extra calcium and/or magnesium translates into closer to a 6 as calcium/magnesium needs water to be mobile.

So see if the seed company gave you any hints and translate that into your watering.

Never go wet tho, just a bit moister or a bit drier.

Watch the leaves, they will tell you. If they have a bit of a mottling in them after a couple hours of lights on then your soil is a touch too wet and/or cold, and the 2 usually go hand in hand as moisture cools.

Wait at least a couple hours after lights on to judge tho, as plants pig out on water over night and are often plump in the morning. They like to cool down at night.

 

[Jon]

In veg I let the bottoms dry down a bit and the top a lot, to cycle wet and dry for root growth, but in flower I try for a perfect constant 5ish as consistently thru the whole pot as possible.

Some strains require more oxygen, so go a bit drier but still as evenly moist as possible.

Your seed description should have a tell in it. Drier, moister, drought tolerant, that sort of thing.

Anything drought tolerant translates into "requires more oxygen", easy and forgiving translates into dead centre on the meter.

Requiring extra calcium and/or magnesium translates into closer to a 6 as calcium/magnesium needs water to be mobile.

So see if the seed company gave you any hints and translate that into your watering.

Never go wet tho, just a bit moister or a bit drier.

Watch the leaves, they will tell you. If they have a bit of a mottling in them after a couple hours of lights on then your soil is a touch too wet and/or cold, and the 2 usually go hand in hand as moisture cools.

Wait at least a couple hours after lights on to judge tho, as plants pig out on water over night and are often plump in the morning. They like to cool down at night.

Thanks @Gee64! So those numbers. Can I simply imagine a 1-10 scale and have it atop the head of my cheap tool with the 5 dead center in moist?

 

[Gee64]

Thanks @Gee64! So those numbers. Can I simply imagine a 1-10 scale and have it atop the head of my cheap tool with the 5 dead center in moist?

Yes, sorry. Most meters are 1-4 dry, 4-7 greenzone, and 7-10 too wet.

 

[Jon]

Yes, sorry. Most meters are 1-4 dry, 4-7 greenzone, and 7-10 too wet.

Ok thanks that what I thought. I saw a few that had actual numbers on them but I went even cheaper and mine does not. But thats easy. Thanks.

 

[Gee64]

Really as long as you know where the needle should be for the sweet spot, which I'm sure you will dial in, then your golden.

 

[Jon]

Trizkit

Nope.

 

[Jon]

Trizkit

Nope.

Tester Bud produced an instant face sweat this morning for the first time. Early tester buds will bind your chest up a bit, that’s for sure. But when they start to make you sweat she’s getting close. This is known as the Sweat Measuring Method.

 

[Jon]

@youcanvape - thanks so much for the lovely prize pack that arrived today. I can’t wait to figure this stuff out. Great prizes. Thanks.

Guys I ain’t gonna lie - the colored vape pen is easy enough. But in all honestly I don’t even know what the black piece IS. I think I was born in the wrong generation. Lol. This also looks to burn stuff I don’t own. Idk.

 

[Jon]

@youcanvape - thanks so much for the lovely prize pack that arrived today. I can’t wait to figure this stuff out. Great prizes. Thanks.

Guys I ain’t gonna lie - the colored vape pen is easy enough. But in all honestly I don’t even know what the black piece IS. I think I was born in the wrong generation. Lol. This also looks to burn stuff I don’t own. Idk.

Ok I figured them both out and I won’t use either one. Lmao! Wax and oil vapes, both. Neither is a dry flower vape. Oh well. Someone will love these things. Or maybe I’ll get that press I’ve been waiting on…

 

[Jon]

Strawberry Banana

Yikes! I removed as much of the extra reds in the picture as I could. The light in flower boost turns all the pictures pink.

 

[Jon]

Strawberry Banana

Yikes! I removed as much of the extra reds in the picture as I could. The light in flower boost turns all the pictures pink.

Damn thing looks like a snake.

 

[Jon]

Rainbow Kief and other stuff

Normally I separate kief by strain and jar it as such. But currently I am out of the Infinity kief jars. They’re all already filled, and they’re kinda pricey. I’m not willing to screw up the jar collection and use something else, it will simply stay in the bowl til I get some. The bowl contains the entire sum of kief from this grow journal. Every plant, all of it. There are 7 strains in there I believe, with one kief tray (Trim Bin) full of Apple Fritter to finish and add. I should have room left in the bowl for the kief from the Strawberry Banana and Blue Dream too, as both are minimally leafy and won’t make much. Thus, I have coined this “Rainbow Kief,” as people like when things have names. Lol. And as all three remaining plants have nary a flarf bud, zero, there won’t be any kief from flarf. I will get a jar for the Trizkit kief and let that stand alone as there’s gonna be a ton of that from trimming the buds on that plant. Which harvests in a day or two btw.

The Trizkit has been getting only Micro, Bloom and Kelp for a few weeks now. 1/2 tbsp of each, ie, 7-ish ml/gallon. This is my version of the pared down, end of flower, Remo mix. Light. No calmag. She’s a couple days out.

The organics get their stuff as I’ve described before, with the addition of my mid flower secret seaweed supplement weapon. It’s 1-2-18. Obviously sparingly and for the K boost. I only use it one time or maybe two max and so far so good. The buds on the BD are minimal and small (small plant) except for the main cola, but they’re all rocks and gorgeous. She’s maybe three ounces max but smells like every bit the dream. The SB colas are developing nicely and beginning to show the weight they’re gaining. I have a new support project to do today for that as I’m in head everything off at the pass mode these days.

And when these guys are finished, it will finally be time for me to leave the wasteland that is Florida. No offense to Florida people.
Heh.

 

[CaptainLucky]

Ok I figured them both out and I won’t use either one. Lmao! Wax and oil vapes, both. Neither is a dry flower vape. Oh well. Someone will love these things. Or maybe I’ll get that press I’ve been waiting on…

You need to get a @MagicStone you can use your flower and it is vapor. CL

 

[Jon]

You need to get a @MagicStone you can use your flower and it is vapor. CL

I have one! I use it! For not even a vape guy per se, the @MagicStone is an amazing thing!! It’s what got me back into my occasional vaping.

 

[CaptainLucky]

I have one! I use it! For not even a vape guy per se, the @MagicStone is an amazing thing!! It’s what got me back into my occasional vaping.

Cool, yeah I’m not a big vape fan but my @MagicStone has me sold on using it. Plus I love the idea that I’m not inhaling smoke but the flower vapor. CL

 

[Jon]

Blue Dream organic auto

Here are some shots of the small lower buds on the Blue Dream, frosting up and coloring up big time now. Even these little guys are dense little gems. This plant leaves a fruity, sort of cotton candyesque, sweet smell on your fingers and outwardly smells very similar to that.