Not arguing with your experience my man. Not really arguing at all. Just saw an edge you don’t normally display. Not sure what war you’re referring to either. But I get it. Something upset you and you’re human. Ok.
Dropped off? You can deliver the damn weed there? Jealous.
For that size, imho, all factors considered, I think you’d do very well with a pair of the @ViparSpectra XS 1500 Pros. I use two in my 2x4 and I have load of power to spare - rarely do I get to 100% in that scenario. There’s a ton of info on them here. Only around $120/each for us! Very powerful light for its size, very well made, draws a true 150 watts, and plants love it. The only tiny downside is it has an incremental dimmer (vs infinite sweep) set at 25/50/75/100. But that’s easy to work around. Two cents for you.
I swear I didn’t read this before I recommended the same light. But fyi - 2 singles gives you more flexibility than the setup for the 300.
I can help a little there. At 50% power on my last grow at about 14” from the Skywalker photo I was getting around 950 ppfd. I made it to 75% on her, and by then we are talking the top colas at about 10” from the lights and hitting almost 1200 ppfd. They have whatever you need in that space. Power for days.
And, that close and that hot, we’re talking zero heat damage. No foxtailing either but that was strain specific, lol. But I’ve gotten as close as 6” to them and the heat is never an issue. Btw - that Skywalker scenario was an ambient grow - no exhaust fan and still zero heat issues. They are also extremely versatile due to their size. I am currently running my pair as side lights as I guess you’ve seen.
One will not satisfy you. 150 watts in that size space is too low. IMO. I’d get a pair.WooHoo!
I (was) thinking I needed to go with the multi-bar lights to spread out the par, but Ithe lens to evenly spread it out, and fill the space at 800 to 900 par (@ 14 ") with only 150 watts !
I found a journal using the ViparSpectra xs1500 @DV8 , doing a McFreakingAwesome job with it!
The Biggest challenge will be trying to grow 1 plant that will fit in a 2.5 x 2.5! But Watching the Quadlining threads gives me Hope!
It’s funny Nick but that’s pretty much my one plant minimum. I would not bother growing one plant under something smaller than an XS1500 Pro. Two plants you need two. Just how it is.
Well, as far as size, I can only tell you in a 2x4, I run them side by side and I still have six inches from each light to each side with the two lights separated a few inches. If that will be vertical, for what you’re using it for, I’d think one would suffice. But go ahead and try to grow two respectable plants under 150 watts. It’s not enough for even two of my six ouncers.Ha.
I’d get a room full of wholsesome ladies.
Two at a time.
I take your point on the two - but the cabling requirements, they can’t be that small?
Here’s a some pictures of the clone/breeding “tent” I’ve been building. Its got 4x 18w T6’s I think so 72W
All get some plastic walls added later today. Its a mix of 3000k and 5000k
I’ve added a tape measure for scale at 30”
1 XS1500 Pro would have to be enough that space?
I’m not planning on flowering under 72w. Its for cloning and breeding.
But 150w? One plant. Or 4 depending on the style hydro or SIP.
Gotta be enough?
And $120?!
Wow. That’s some value.
They don’t sell here but reckon they’re the market leaders at that wattage.
And yeah - can give you a name and address here and & Co can legally receive your weed and test it here.
However - you should check the legality of sending it your jurisdiction and from what I understand it may vary state by state.
But like - at airports. No one checks you on the way out.
Just make sure you finish before the plane lands.
Stood me in good stead back in the day!
You can’t get this plant under less than 150 watts. I don’t think you could with 150. This was 75% of 300 watts, not sure if the math is linear but it’s a lot more than 150. More like 225. That said, in a 2x2 with one it’s the same as a 2x4 with two. So maybe…..Well, as far as size, I can only tell you in a 2x4, I run them side by side and I still have six inches from each light to each side with the two lights separated a few inches. If that will be vertical, for what you’re using it for, I’d think one would suffice. But go ahead and try to grow two respectable plants under 150 watts. It’s not enough for even two of my six ouncers.
Here the Skywalker from the last grow. The lights are just outside the frame at the top, obviously. They were at 75% here. This was the best plant from the last grow. And check out how natural the plant looks under them. That temp and RH was the door open halfway by day with a couple fans and an AC unit, not for heat control but for RH. She was hard top to bottom. The lights were spectacular.
@NickHardy - FYI for you and others. The boss man very much does not appreciate us talking about sharing personal info to the end of sending anything, especially that. For obvious reasons when you think about it, lol. But unfortunately, I know this to be true cuz I almost got booted permanently in my very early days for doing exactly this thing, on DM yet! So send me an email, and now anyone here has that heads up. It was not a fun series of conversations. Just so you know.Ha.
I’d get a room full of wholsesome ladies.
Two at a time.
I take your point on the two - but the cabling requirements, they can’t be that small?
Here’s a some pictures of the clone/breeding “tent” I’ve been building. Its got 4x 18w T6’s I think so 72W
All get some plastic walls added later today. Its a mix of 3000k and 5000k
I’ve added a tape measure for scale at 30”
1 XS1500 Pro would have to be enough that space?
I’m not planning on flowering under 72w. Its for cloning and breeding.
But 150w? One plant. Or 4 depending on the style hydro or SIP.
Gotta be enough?
And $120?!
Wow. That’s some value.
They don’t sell here but reckon they’re the market leaders at that wattage.
And yeah - can give you a name and address here and & Co can legally receive your weed and test it here.
However - you should check the legality of sending it your jurisdiction and from what I understand it may vary state by state.
But like - at airports. No one checks you on the way out.
Just make sure you finish before the plane lands.
Stood me in good stead back in the day!
WooHoo! If 2 in a 2x4 is good, I might just go that route. I have found a few more journals and 6 oz per light is about avg . At $99 each on Amazon in USA, It would pay for itself with 1 plant!
It’s super fun @MedScientist, I bet it grabs you hard. Especially fun are those little one plant small tents. You’re only 6” wider than a 2x2, so even if you get a pair, I’d suggest trying one first in that space. If you can, measure the ppfd levels at various heights, as it sounds like you probably already know. I think you’ll find that it’s enough with one in a 2.5x2.5. Maybe not if you grow a scrog or something, but for a one plant static grow like the Skywalker I showed, one may well be enough in that space. You’ll know from the numbers immediately but they’re for real pretty damn powerful for their diminutive size and the lensing works spectacularly well. When I would grow one in a space like that in static fashion (no scrog), I would likely make sure it grew so it had a bit of space to the walls anyway, for air flow. Meaning in essence, my Skywalker in a 2x4 as shown would have fit into a 2.5x2.5, just with less space. But bottom line in a 2.5x2.5 is, for one static plant, you’re only really using 2x2. So again, maybe one would work. I like to push push push, thus my original “you need two.” Lmao. Just saying/suggesting to try one first so you don’t burn up the universe. Lol!!!!
I haven’t measured my closet lately but I guestamate it’s about 2’X3’ and I grow 2 plants with a mars TS-600 + ViparSpectra XS-1500 Pro. The combination seems to do a good jobWell, as far as size, I can only tell you in a 2x4, I run them side by side and I still have six inches from each light to each side with the two lights separated a few inches. If that will be vertical, for what you’re using it for, I’d think one would suffice. But go ahead and try to grow two respectable plants under 150 watts. It’s not enough for even two of my six ouncers.
Here the Skywalker from the last grow. The lights are just outside the frame at the top, obviously. They were at 75% here. This was the best plant from the last grow. And check out how natural the plant looks under them. That temp and RH was the door open halfway by day with a couple fans and an AC unit, not for heat control but for RH. She was hard top to bottom. The lights were spectacular.
. CL
Interesting combo CL. And supports the idea that in a 2.5 x 2.5, one might well be plenty, yes?I haven’t measured my closet lately but I guestamate it’s about 2’X3’ and I grow 2 plants with a mars TS-600 + ViparSpectra XS-1500 Pro. The combination seems to do a good job
I’ve been begging them for the exact same light only in 8 bar format and sized for a 5x5. And an infinite sweep dimmer. That light would rock.
Looking forward to the pictorial!
I need more info on this because I was going to build my "tent" out of panda film.
Definitely the Vipar Spectra XS1500 Pro, two of them! I also grow with them. I manage to get three autos to harvest each grow. I hang the lights side by side with a gap of the width of the light. I'm out in the open though, not in a tent.
It’s funny Nick but that’s pretty much my one plant minimum. I would not bother growing one plant under something smaller than an XS1500 Pro. Two plants you need two. Just how it is.
Besides, for as economical as they are and then factoring in their versatility? Not a better small light on the site.
Yes!
I’m really impressed with the @ViparSpectra XS-1500 Pro. Imho your not gonna find a better light for the money. 1 light in a 2.5 with 1 plant yes
. CL
