Autoflower Myth Busting Thread

[electro gypsy]

Electro I honestly believe you could switch over for less than a thousand ... well I know you can.. let me know if ya would like to chat about it

hell yeah, your'e fresh on your research lol. i think the phasing them in idea is probably the best. especially with a tight budget right now.. but gotta start somewhere.

the current situation is 4'x8' tent with 1000w hps for flower. 7'x7' veg tent. i was going to go with 1000w mh in there, but i seem to be getting better light dispersal around the edges with a 600w and a 400w. plus the arrangement allows for the weak spot to be focused around the entry and work area. i like the LED per plant idea btw.. can't remember where i saw that but that would be really nice being able to focus rather than flood the room with light. hey wait a minute.. this is another one of those conspiracy things isn't it? lol. which reminds me. time to check the girls

 

[Camo420Grow]

Thank you for your reply atrain! I will try to keep it up around those ranges and temps that you want.

 

[Baxterwolfe]

Day 60 update of the Berry Ryder she is coming close to flush time cant wait to see what she holds in weight.

 

[Camo420Grow]

I want some berry ryder !!! I want to grow it !

 

[Reddog1981]

well if u notice,unfortunatly I'm not getting a paint brush?? My lower growth is suddenly shooting for the sky. I've been playing around trying to get light in here and there the plants themselves r about 14 inches tall and the main stem is very stout as far as training it down now goes. Anywho any thought on what any of u folks would do . Would just working with this and keep trying to get light to what Evers trying to branch out work? Focusing on top growth but yet I have what's handed to me??

Whether or not your garden will benefit from LST is a function of your overall space - width and height - and your lights. If you've got tons of space and a super strong light, it's not so useful. If you have limited space, the point of LST is to force a flatter canopy on the plant than would develop naturally. To really understand it, you have to grow a plant out without doing anything to it. You have to look at it every day and see that the bottom 1/3 of the plant is kinda weak looking. You have to see that the top of the plant is kind of shaped like a pointy paintbrush, that the top 1/3 of it is heavy with buds, and the middle 1/3 of it is somewhere inbetween the useless stuff at the bottom and the good stuff at the top. Then, you realize if you tugged the taller canes apart some, more light gets in to that middle third of the plant. Then, you might realize if the taller canes were more wiggly shaped and less straight, then those middle buds would be at about the same height as the tall ones (from the ground). Then, you start thinking if you could force it like that as it grew, you'd have like twice as much plant at the same height getting the really good light. THEN all of a sudden LST makes sense to you.

In this group of plants, I had 3 that were really outgrowing the other 3. Eventually, they would have been so much taller that the others would have been in constant shadow. I gently pulled the central stem over, giving it a 90 degree elbow, and tied it there. Few hours later, the top was once again pointing straight up. A few days later, I repeated this - bending the top over and waiting on it to straighten up. Now, the main stem of those plants is kind of spiraling around the outer edge of the pot, and the smaller stems are sticking up at about the same level as the main cola is. It's hard to see the green velcro ribbons I use to tie the plants down with, but if you look closely, they're in there.

Atrain's picture makes more sense than actual plants.

 

[Reddog1981]

this is the other gal

 

[slayer44]

Mine are a lot more Bushy will be pretty kewl to see how both grows end.

 

[Reddog1981]

also I know it's not really the right idea.but today I got the hair brained idea to put some fluoro,s against the sides?? Thoughts and comments on that as well please???

 

[golfer420]

It's a good idea, Reddog. Having the fluoro's on the side getting the side growth light is a good idea. I have an LED above mine and have 3 cfl's around the sides to help mine.

I think you can begin using LST to bring that main cola down. I wouldn't push it too hard but get it started by pulling the top over slight to the side and pin it to the side of your fabric pot.

 

[Baxterwolfe]

Took a small sampler of the berry ryder cant wait to try her out

 

[MassMedMan]

I've done a lot of jury rigging of various lights. Most were cfl or tube floros. Sooooooo,, If you ain't trying you ain't getting anywhere new. That being said,, that long bar t12 is great, for additional lighting,, just wondering how much that lights helping based on what I see. I love those old shop lights for veg/clones in overhead scenarios. It's not hurting, I know or think that,, but,, I'd rather have a bulb, cfl bulb which you can direct the little usable light coming from it. Very, very small amounts of usable light is coming from that old shop light. It might light up a room, but I'm thinking bang for your buck. Again, those things run cheap to, I get that, just saying... Anyway, I'm guessing it's an older ballast also.... I have replaced a few over the years. I have no idea the watts,, but, you might think about a singular cfl bulb if that's an option.

But, good on you for trying...

 

[Reddog1981]

Yeah.. I jus had it lyin around n said" hmm what the hell,cant hurt I guess" let's c what this will do... Lol .I have a couple of old chicken brooder fixtures lying around As well. I probly will grab a couple cfl's and put them in there. What should b ok for now? Just some 100 watt equevalint daylight bulbs will b fine?

 

[Camo420Grow]

Report on the berry Ryder please?

 

[Canyon]

Red,

Cheep desktop goose neck lamps and large CFLs can add up to some good fill light. Or, way better grow lighting than the T12 shop lights some of us used years ago.

Two 40W CFLs will do you more good than a two bulb shop light because you can direct it and concentrate the light better.

Now days you can get CFLs up to around 56W at most hardware stores. Nearly all desk lamps are rated for at least 60W.

However, I do have a two bulb T8 screwed to the wall for side light one some plants that I am not rushing. Any added light helps. If you look back here a few pages, the pics I posted have a T8 set setting on one of the barrels.

I don't think anyone ever has enough grow room space. And, most of us are working our way up to better lighting.

Best

 

[MassMedMan]

Not a great orientation, but here's what my autos get early on,,, this pic was taken November 5th...I have the LED's glowing above... But those small cfl bulbs right down close really help create the bushes I like to grow.

Good luck Red, happy growing...

 

[Baxterwolfe]

Report on the berry Ryder please?

Still curing be a couple days before i can sample her. Believe me Im chompin at the bit to try her out and give a report lol

 

[Camo420Grow]

Haha I bet so bax! Just checkin in ya know

 

[Baxterwolfe]

I need to figure out what strain to get ready once the trans siberian is in flower. I kinda want something thats a good day time smoke. I have pineapple punch and durban poison but cant decide what to run Im kinda leaning toward Durban because ive heard nothing but great things and ive never tried it yet.

 

[sonicDlf]

We should start a list of day and night smokes

 

[goofyfoot]

Hello to you Atrain,
I was posting to another members site and SweetSue mentioned you could possibly provide the info and resources. One looking to get acquainted with Auto's would have. My knowledge of Auto's is general and only read. I have years growing outdoors and invested time in a few indoor grows. So I am not a total newbie and my gut / common sense says. Their water, soil, light, and nuit cycles are different from what most would consider applying to full duration species. I am also throwing feminized into the mix and in looking at different sites. The explanations vary a bit or more like contradict in some terms.

I have found out for myself that Mother Nature holds all the aces....regardless. Plus the fact that patients and trial and error over time, wins the race. With that said I see you offer a great deal info to scan and I will. I would like to ask a question or two along the way if you don't mind. I will be indoor and small, nothing to high in wattage. CFL bulbs, 240 to 300 total watts depending on the amount of bulbs. With very light hand mixed soil as a medium, doctored regular potting soil. Nothing pre-mixed or fortified. The wattage may seam low but it will only be two plants sharing a 36" X 36" X adjustable to 8ft. reflected box. So they will be tucked in but very well vented. Also I have a window that will provide them 4 to 5 hours of early afternoon direct sunshine. I am here in central Florida and you will get sunburn in January!! Pic's and all the pertinence will be included in a journal. Going with Fem/Auto LSD-25 indica/rud. and Fem/Auto Green Crack sativa/rud.

Just looking forward to seeing your results and to maybe share a tip or two down the road. Just saying hello, and it looks like SweetSue's info to check you out. Was spot on!! Thanks for your time and will be in touch...Peace.....