Aye, whatever I grow its way cheaper than buying. One of the reasons I like autos is that they let me run lights longer. In summer I might try some photos 12/12 from seed to see how that compares to autos but this winter I fancied the warmth off my HPS keeping me warm at my computer which is in the attic next to my grow room. Fancied trying more ShortStuff strains too.