Ase's Perpetual Fun With Coco

PE and PK both look awesome. This is going to be a killer harvest. I'm a little tight on cash so I'm holding off on my PE order yet but I've added it to my shopping cart and not finished the transaction a few times now!

I'll be flipping my 4 in veg in a few days. Will be really interesting to time it so close to yours when I'm feeding to your recommendations. Expect questions! :laugh:

You made reference to dipping into your well cured harvest from last time. Has your opinion on the autos evolved since then? I've been thinking about running some auto freebies in my veg tent, but I'm not sure if I want to waste my time if I'll always prefer photos.
 
DobeWan said:
PE and PK both look awesome. This is going to be a killer harvest. I'm a little tight on cash so I'm holding off on my PE order yet but I've added it to my shopping cart and not finished the transaction a few times now!

I'll be flipping my 4 in veg in a few days. Will be really interesting to time it so close to yours when I'm feeding to your recommendations. Expect questions! :laugh:

You made reference to dipping into your well cured harvest from last time. Has your opinion on the autos evolved since then? I've been thinking about running some auto freebies in my veg tent, but I'm not sure if I want to waste my time if I'll always prefer photos.
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No it did not. My Cherry Bomb is still around and is a little better but I think what is left of it will be made into butter soon. The Gorilla Glue was solid but it went fast and the Headlights got just a little better. I'm referring to my Jack Herer/White Castle/Amnesiac stash. The White Castle ended up really good. The Jack Herer is solid and the Amnesiac is an okay smoke right now. It was a little more dense and is just starting to smell really good so maybe it will still be a little better.

You will prefer the quality of photos but I did an auto grow and it was fun. It wasn't a waste for sure and was still good practice. At this point I like my routine and training and that is really hard to do with autos since you don't determine their schedule. I just would rather not mess with them anymore. The two things I noticed was that 4 of the 5 auto plants were more leafier buds and only the Gorilla Glue was on par in terms of quality with some of my average photo plants. Others will disagree but it was a large enough sample size for me to move on from them. My roommate and another friend also have come to the same conclusion based on the same plants. If you can fit one in here or there without it interrupting your regular photo schedule then that is the only way I'd recommend doing it.
 
DobeWan said:
I haven't scrogged it yet but after growing a sativa manifolded and dealing with 8 4' tall stalks, I would most definitely entertain scrogging it next time. My experience was exactly as you described. But to Ase's point I like running different plants, with different needs, so the scrog is less than ideal.

I'll definitely be trying it in time though, and it'll be with a sativa.
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One idea.....since I did it my first go around.....if you grow in a 4x4 area and have two lights, you can run taller strain on one side and shorter strain on the other. The Sativas stretched a bit more under the net and were probably about 6 inches taller so I just raised the light over that half of the tent and kept the light over the Hybrid and Indicas a little lower.

One other thing I have seen some people do is build scrogs for just one plant that might need it. I saw a guy had three plants in his tent with no scrog but the one more Sativa dominant plant, he had an individual scrog that attached to the pot. Another worth while idea that would let you do multiple strains but not be handcuffed by a full scrog.
 
Asesino85 said:
White Rhino at harvest
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my eyes are watering at the mere site of this behemoth. great work :thumb:
 
VS / PW - I actually thought about doing my Chocolope with a net set up for half the tent and decided against it. Maybe I'll come back to it some time, it seems like a cool idea to try.
 
Omega Man said:
my eyes are watering at the mere site of this behemoth. great work :thumb:
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Thanks OM!

It was a lot of fun to grow and the smoke was pretty great. Can't ask for too much better.
 
Tent A Flower Day 56 - Tent B Flower Day 2

I decided to finally check the trichs on both of the Purples in Tent A and they are still about 80-90% clear. I will begin to boost them with Koolbloom powder this weekend. I've held off knowing they look like they will need longer than a 9 week flower. Now that I am running both tents totally separately, it's no big deal how long they take to finish.

The Lost Coast OG still a couple weeks behind but starting to form good, chunky bud. Resin everywhere.
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The Purple Kush is beginning to finally swell a bit. The bud is really starting to get fat. I think a week behind the Purple Envy. Going to have to tie these colas to the top of the tent soon for a little extra support. The plant still feels strong but why risk it at this point.
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The Purple Envy leaves me speechless. I will report that I lost one cola due to a little white cobweb of mold I found just after doing my last post two days ago. Went through in really good detail and that was it from her so a bummer but glad I found it before it spread. I've gone through the two girls in really good detail for the last two days and signs of any other issues. Got that fan up just in time, another couple days and who knows. Anyways, now I have 11 colas instead of 12.
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Tent B (former veg tent) is going strong. 2 Days into Flower and they are all showing good growth. Healthy light green everywhere. Going to be fun to watch them start to stretch in a few days. They will be getting 1-1-1 NPK for a week to make it easy on them and help them transition.

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Ice
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Jock Horror
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Lemon Venom
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Cinderella 99 I am starting to really grow partial too. Her spacing is so nice and she is growing like crazy.
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The top of the PK looks like a softball bat. PE is just dripping in trichs. Did you see Blaze's harvest shots? I will be getting this strain when I get the chance!

A couple of questions for you, Ase. I've started flower on my next batch, feeding to your schedule. Are there any points at which I should be keeping an eye out for certain behaviours, and if so, what should I be looking for? Would you double up certain weeks for a longer flowering strain, or extend on the back end? I feel like I got great results repeating your Flower 8 week, and if I thought something was going 10+ (as Candida might), I would likely just extend week 8 for a few extra days.
 
DobeWan said:
The top of the PK looks like a softball bat. PE is just dripping in trichs. Did you see Blaze's harvest shots? I will be getting this strain when I get the chance!

A couple of questions for you, Ase. I've started flower on my next batch, feeding to your schedule. Are there any points at which I should be keeping an eye out for certain behaviours, and if so, what should I be looking for? Would you double up certain weeks for a longer flowering strain, or extend on the back end? I feel like I got great results repeating your Flower 8 week, and if I thought something was going 10+ (as Candida might), I would likely just extend week 8 for a few extra days.
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In my semi frustration with the PK and the little bit of mold I found, I clipped off all the tip tops of the main colas as they were foxtailing a bit, likely due to it being kinda close to the light. That's why they look a little more like a bat than a cone. I think they are about 10" from the light and I like them more at 12". I wouldn't recommend doing that this late in flower but over the next couple of days I saw fresh white hairs just popping out of the lower level buds, just like you would see if you were backbuilding. I will be backbuilding next time (at the correct time) to hopefully avoid this. The PE just looks flawless minus the one cola I found with a little mold and had to snip. I've had a pretty busy week and must have missed Blaze's harvest post. I somehow read all the comments after the harvest but never read the actual post.

Since adjusting my schedule a little bit (when I made the changes that you linked) I've had really solid looking plants almost the whole way through. I think I could have upped the PPM on the larger PK but the schedule looks great for the Purple Envy and Lost Coast. Usually my concern would be around week 5 in flower but they didn't show any signs of any nute burn or deficiency.

If I felt like they needed longer than 9 weeks I would go with week 7 feed schedule and I'd still be using the liquid koolbloom. The dry stuff is pretty strong and 3 weeks of it might be too much. I run the dry koolbloom for the last week and then a week of flushing now. Those are my two "finishing" weeks so I'd use the week before that as my extended week. I kind of did that with the Purple Envy and Purple Kush this time. When I was supposed to start using dry Koolbloom all the trichs were still clear. I think I just repeated week 7 and just now started using koolbloom powder now that the trichs were more like 50/50. In two weeks I hope to see like a 10/80/10 ratios of trichs. That would be a 10 week flower total.

The Purple Kush is going to go longer than that. I will likely repeat week 8 for her just because I've already switched to dry koolbloom now. So she is going to get a repeat of week 7 and 8. How's that for making my response even more confusing? I guess that just means if it goes 10 weeks I would repeat week 7 and if it goes 11 weeks I'd do a repeat of 7 & 8.
 
Looks beautiful Ase. The purple is gorgeous!!! Congrats bud well done
 
Tent A Day 59 Flower - Tent B Day 5 Flower

Over the last few days some of the fan leaves in the veg tent just had gotten to big so I had to pull them. I figured better to pull them now before the stretch then have it block light during the stretch. Stretching should start to happen in the next couple days. I was really happy with the way everything looked and they didn't even notice the defoliation. Usually I try not to touch them once I flip them but it had to be done.

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Tent A is now almost at week 9. In about 4 days I will begin to flush the Purple Envy I think. A week after that the Purple Kush and a week after that the Lost Coast OG. At least that is the tentative plan.

The Lost Coast OG is beginning to swell. Might get more than an ounce after all! Whatever I get it looks to be potent with all that resin.
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Purple Kush just keeps going. I'd like to see the calyxes swell up now. Hoping with the koolbloom push it will plump up more and start to look more finished.
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Purple Envy just keeps moving along. Need to check the trichs again but she is likely done right at 10 weeks no matter what.
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Lastly my seeds came from Gorilla for my Plant of the Month of September. I can't remember if I said it in an earlier post but I got Green Crack and Crown Royale from CKS, 7 of each. This is what I got from Gorilla. Thanks to both sponsors. The lower left seed is an auto Northern Lights.
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I love looking at your Purple Envy. Your plants are looking in great shape as usual. Nice selection of seeds you have there. Have you had decent success with Barneys Farm? Would be interesting to see you run Red Diesel. Feral's was/is fantastic.
 
TheBlaze said:
I love looking at your Purple Envy. Your plants are looking in great shape as usual. Nice selection of seeds you have there. Have you had decent success with Barneys Farm? Would be interesting to see you run Red Diesel. Feral's was/is fantastic.
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Barney's farm seeds were freebies. I have grown some by Barney's and they have been pretty good. Blue Mammoth auto and I think the Ayahuasca Purple was from them in prior grows.
 
SwAggNiFiCeNt said:
Grow any gorilla glue yet?
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Probably not my next set but the set after I will. All of those seeds I just got so I haven’t grown any of them yet, although I’m currently growing the Cinderella as I got it free from another order a while back. Gorilla Glue is my absolute favorite strain so I can’t wait. Likely I will just grow this one out and use it as a mother which is why I’m waiting one more round. Also looking at setting up another tent so if that happens maybe I will sooner than I think.
 
Current Seed Stock

Fem Honeysuckle x1
Fem Gorilla Glue x1
Fem Cinderella99 x1
Fem Utopia Haze x1
Fem Red Dragon x1
Fem Red Diesel x1
Fem 8 Ball Kush x1
Fem Black Jack x1
Fem Panama x1
Fem Critical Cheese x1
Fem Chemdawg x1
Fem Anubis x1
Fem White Rhino x1
Fem White Castle x1
Fem Jack Herrer x1
Fem Purple Trainwreck x1
Fem Ayahuasca Purple x1
Fem Purple Envy x2
Fem Lost Coast OG x2
Fem Blue Dream x3
Fem Purple Kush x6
Fem Cali OG Kush/Haze x6
Fem Crown Royale x7
Fem Green Crack x7
Fem Super Iced Grapefruit x10
Fem Northern Lights Auto x1
Freebies from Nirvana x9 (unknown male/female and unknown strains)

I think my plan this next round will be CKS Green Crack and Crown Royale. Also will likely do Super Iced Grapefruit and Blue Dream which I got from Gorilla Seeds. If there is something that someone wants to really see me grow on that list than speak up! My mind isn't totally made up yet.
 
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