Morning Ase. What’s good man?
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Looking great Ase and off to a spectacular start!
Now I’m here to pick your brain!! I have recently been gifted some critical+2.0 cuttings and after they rooted in only a week and began growing my approach to training these photo girls is going to be the quadline. I am also going to be starting some autos along side them to run an auto side by side with quadline vrs LST on a Pineapple Express by Barney’s farm and a crystal candy auto by sweet seeds.
After watching you and many others in the quadline journey I have been eagerly waiting to try my hand at it. Well my time has come and I look forward to learning as much as I can and grow some killer plants!
Ok ok enough of my rambling the real question I have is regarding the critical clones that have started to grow. I want to make sure I get everything times right since I’m using cuttings and not seedlings for my quadline.
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Critical+2.0 Clones #3 and #4
Cut on Nov.20
Day - 12
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Critical+2.0 Clones #1 and #2
Cut on Nov.20
Day - 12
I know they are still small but will I treat them the same as if I would a seeding? Wait until it stretches a bit more...top the highest node then create my “x” pattern with the remaining lower branches.
Would I want to create my lower “x” with the branches that are currently existing and top once I am able to access the highest node?
Thanks for your help Sensei !
Yes you would treat them like they are still a seedling.What you will need to do is find a section of the plant that has 4 nodes that you can train 4 different directions. From seed it's easy because the nodes are symmetrical but from cutting they don't line up exactly so you have to find a section with 4 that you can work with and then top above that.
On the very first picture you posted, the top plant. I'd get rid of the leaf and node entirely at the bottom with the leaf that is cut and then wherever the next node is more towards the top right now I'd use as my bottom 2 branches and then the next node above that as the top two, to make the 4 branches in total for the quadline. Once you see the top two nodes start coming in then you can top above that and you should be good to go.
Day 7 Veg - The Topping Begins!
Nothing that new to report today. The Girl Scout Cookies and the Double Berry both got stripped of their 1st and 2nd node just like I thought I was going to do. The DTF #1 got topped today and the Tangerine Dream and Purple Trainwreck are almost ready but not quite. I assume I will be topping them tomorrow and likely topping the GSC and Purple Trainwreck the day after. Not sure if the DTF#2 will get topped with the tomorrows group or the next day but likely it will be with the tomorrows group.
I always talk about learning to read a plant to know when to do things. When I waited to "strip them" of nodes one and two I was looking at the amount of leaf matter had grown and what the plant would look like if I did the defoliation. Leaves are essential for a plants growth so if there isn't enough left at this stage it can definitely stunt them. We don't want to slow them down and as you have seen so far, nothing I have done has really slowed them down. Now with the plants all stripped, I had to focus on what to look for when ready to top a plant.
In prior grows I used to just top them all at the same time but really each plant is different and needs to be treated that way. You need to do things based on the plant and not your own schedule you have for them unless you really don't have a choice. If you really have a deadline to hit or just can't wait an extra day or two then by all means do them all at once, but topping them all at once doesn't put them all back on the same schedule. Some have grown more than others and likely have larger root masses accumulating and the ones that were growing well won't notice it and the once that haven't reached the correct point will likely be further stunted. It's just a matter of a couple days too so might as well just get it right. In a humans frame of time a couple days really is a small amount. For a plant that is 14 days old one or two extra days to grow without any stress really makes a huge difference. Patience is a growers #1 virtue but it is a huge key in growing. You can be excited and just want to do everything ASAP but you are really hurting the plant by rushing things. Brand new growers really struggle with this concept.
So here is my before and after of the DTF in terms of topping. You can see the 3rd node is getting bigger and the 4th node has two leaves that you can clearly see coming out of the plant. It is way more evident once it is topped but you really don't want to top if these are any smaller than they are. Be careful not to pinch of cut the leaves coming out of the 4th node when you do the topping. Also if you spread the plant out with your fingers (just like I was showing in the last post) then it makes it a little easier to see everything and get a good topping in. Normally, I'd just do the transplant when the plant recovers from this which takes a couple days but since I am gone this weekend I'll likely top them all before I leave and just let them grow until I get back and then transplant them all. It just pushes things back a couple days and I am good with that.
A little better picture of what the growth from node 4 should look like in terms of size.
Learned something. You top way earlier than I have been. I had been a bit tentative to take the top that early. Next time I will get right on it.
Northern Lights is a great night time smoke. I am going to do a female cross of my NL and Hindu Kush. I generally smoke a 50/50 bowl of those two most nights before bed. I figure its only logical to try a cross of those two. Might have a nice indica for you to try when I get this done!There is so much sativa in my life that I am really looking forward to having it again. On the Indica side, I really like most things that are crossed with Northern Lights.
Northern Lights is a great night time smoke. I am going to do a female cross of my NL and Hindu Kush. I generally smoke a 50/50 bowl of those two most nights before bed. I figure its only logical to try a cross of those two. Might have a nice indica for you to try when I get this done!
Hey Ase hope all is well! My girls have rebounded nicely from the trimming and transplanting last week! can't wait for an update on yours.
Is it bad to take the leaves up higher at the bud sites. Like the top node?. They block the 2nd node from the top