Ase's Multi-Strain Quadlining In Coco

[Stu]

The Other Stuff

If you've read the revamp intro a couple pages back you know my focus will be on mainly training. However the plants in my other tent weren't really trained so I don't want to feature them much here. I'm not even really sure what day they are on anymore but the two Indicas will be coming down in a couple weeks and it looks like the Durban Poison will go a week or two past these other ones. I guess the Durban Poison got a little super-cropping and they were all topped like I would to start a quadline, just nothing else happened to them so i'm ready to get through these and start my Tangerine Dream in one 4'x4' tent grow.

Durban Poison. Imagine a plant like this crossed with one of the ATFs I grew. That's what DTF is. I feel like I am really going to have to wrestle them to keep them even with everything else I have going. I'm looking forward to the challenge but it's good I grew an ATF and a Durban Poison before growing a Durban Thunderf*ck. I should be well prepared. I need to stake up this Durban before it really start packing on weight though or I'll have more branches like the one that has fallen over.

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• Asesino85
• Nov 29, 2018

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• Asesino85
• Nov 29, 2018

Honeysuckle. Smallest of the bunch and super dense nugs. I've used this term before on a couple other plants I've grown but very much like golf balls. Both it and the Aurora Indica would be flopping on the floor if all the colas weren't tied up. This is a prime example of when you keep something in a pot too long and it when it gets into a new pot it starts growing like crazy. I flipped these right after transplant too so they grew and really didn't have much time to harden. They just have no support this way which I why I'm excited to get back to quadlining. The flopping and having to add support nets and all that just isn't my cup of tea.

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• Asesino85
• Nov 29, 2018

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• Asesino85
• Nov 29, 2018

Aurora Indica. I'm very excited to try this again as this was the first strain I had ever grown and wanted to do it justice. I think I have another seed but it is going to be quality stuff. It and the Honeysuckle won't yield more than a couple zips though and I shoot to get 4 zips a plant. Often times it goes north of that but it is what it is for this round. I'm shocked they even look as decent as they do. The Durban will be much better in yield but I really just can't wait until this whole tent is free again. My flash causes the one cola to look so white on the tip but it looks just like the others.

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• Asesino85
• Nov 29, 2018

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• Asesino85
• Nov 29, 2018

Thanks for your time to write all that up Asesino just finished reading from the update for new guys forward.... I’m looking forward to the quadline journal and to following this one a bit closer now.
Got to thank all the people doing quadlining and promoting it, doing my first grow and have all but one plant on there way, I’ll say it’s sure scary cutting down and bending your first plants ever grown, but I sure am happy I’m learning to train from my first grow onwards, so lucky to have landed on this wonderful site.
Stu

 

[Asesino85]

You have some nice strains going on in here. Commenting so I see updates.

Ahh a 420 Magazine legend. It's good to have you here! Definitely learned a few things when I first started on these forums a couple years ago from your journals and what you are able to pull in terms of yield in your tents is just incredible. Thanks for stopping in and also for being a big inspiration for me wanting to help others through my journals.

 

[Asesino85]

Thanks for your time to write all that up Asesino just finished reading from the update for new guys forward.... I’m looking forward to the quadline journal and to following this one a bit closer now.
Got to thank all the people doing quadlining and promoting it, doing my first grow and have all but one plant on there way, I’ll say it’s sure scary cutting down and bending your first plants ever grown, but I sure am happy I’m learning to train from my first grow onwards, so lucky to have landed on this wonderful site.
Stu

I go off the forums today for a few hours to watch my Portland Timbers win the Western Conference in the MLS playoffs and come back to a busy journal all of a sudden and a couple of nice compliments. I'm happier than a clam right now.

Quad is looking on point and just be really gentle when bending branches. A good chunk of people end up with a Tri-line because they bend to fast or too hard. Should be fun to see what that looks like in about a week.

 

[SamSmith]

Quad is looking on point and just be really gentle when bending branches. A good chunk of people end up with a Tri-line because they bend to fast or too hard. Should be fun to see what that looks like in about a week.

Ah yes the tri-line. It's not a good feeling when that happens. When they are small like that it can happen rather easily. Good advice Ase.

 

[Archiweedies]

Happy Friday!
Ase, perhaps I missed it, it do you run cuttings or seeds? I am embarking on running a couple cuttings for the first time and I noticed they have alternating nodes. The exception being, the “tops” from my topping job done at the same time I took cuts. The alternating nodes seems to destroy any chance of quadlining

 

[Asesino85]

Happy Friday!
Ase, perhaps I missed it, it do you run cuttings or seeds? I am embarking on running a couple cuttings for the first time and I noticed they have alternating nodes. The exception being, the “tops” from my topping job done at the same time I took cuts. The alternating nodes seems to destroy any chance of quadlining

I've done both but it's mostly from seeds. I was lucky enough to earn a chunk of seeds from a couple different contests from this website which has allowed me to just keep popping new seeds. Also been gifted a couple batches of seeds from other growers on these forums. I will say that quadline is much easier from seed than from clone. It definitely is much tougher to quadline something that doesn't have even nodes but it's possible, just a little more difficult. When you top them you just leave 4 of the closest nodes together and top above them and eventually train each one out so the plant has the "X" to it. That X shape is the key because once you have that (alternating nodes or not) your plants are split more evenly and you've created kind of a bowl shape that the will eventually be a nice even canopy.

With all this being said, it's more challenging to quadline a clone for sure but still very possible. The pictures below were from a quadlined clone and it almost won Plant of the Year last year. It's been my best plant ever but took some effort to get it that way along with a little super cropping. Here are a couple other pictures of that girl.

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• May 20, 2017

 

[Pennywise]

That was a sweet plant for sure.

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

The pictures below were from a quadlined clone and it almost won Plant of the Year last year. It's been my best plant ever but took some effort to get it that way along with a little super cropping. Here are a couple other pictures of that girl.

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• Asesino85
• May 10, 2017

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• May 10, 2017

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• Asesino85
• May 20, 2017

Hoooooly Shiiiiiiiiiit!!! If I wasn’t already convinced on the quadline, I definitely would be now!!! Just beautiful.

 

[Stirstick]

Hey Ase quadline question for you. I'm getting to transplant my girls out of Solo cups and think I'm ready to start with some training. In the picture below let me know if I have it correct. I would remove 1 + 2 leave 3 and top at 4? Just want to make sure I get it correct

 

[Asesino85]

Hey Ase quadline question for you. I'm getting to transplant my girls out of Solo cups and think I'm ready to start with some training. In the picture below let me know if I have it correct. I would remove 1 + 2 leave 3 and top at 4? Just want to make sure I get it correct

Correct. Also if you want you can remove nodes 1 and 2 now and then top in a day or two. This is a safer way to make sure the plant doesn't get too much stress and recovers a bit but I usually just do it all at once. Maybe if you are a soil grower than the safer route is best but if you grow in coco/hydro then doing it all at once is no problem. It might not be a problem in soil but since things seem to take a little longer in soil to change/recover, better safe than sorry.

 

[DobeWan]

Just to be sure - by "top at 4" you mean ABOVE node 4, leaving nodes 3 and 4.

And you mentioned transplant too - Ase's point around stress is an important one, space the transplant out from when you chop the plant up. Make sure it has recovered from one before you start the other.

 

[Stirstick]

Correct. Also if you want you can remove nodes 1 and 2 now and then top in a day or two.

Sounds like a plan. I will do 1 + 2 tonight and wait a couple of days to top. Better safe than sorry. Do you cut right at the stock or out a bit?

Just to be sure - by "top at 4" you mean ABOVE node 4, leaving nodes 3 and 4

Yes I meant above four . But you're right about transplant. I'll push is back a bit for some recovery!

 

[Asesino85]

Sounds like a plan. I will do 1 + 2 tonight and wait a couple of days to top. Better safe than sorry. Do you cut right at the stock or out a bit?



Yes I meant above four . But you're right about transplant. I'll push is back a bit for some recovery!

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• Asesino85
• Mar 7, 2018

This was one I did where I took the nodes off and waited a day to top. For these ones I get pretty close to kind of just make it all one big stalk. You can just pinch it off with your fingers if you have steady hands.

 

[Stirstick]

I did about 10 mins before you replied lol and I also went back to page one and looked at this image as reference!

I think I did ok. Very nerve racking cutting your first plant. Used a straight razor, brand new and disinfected with alcohol.

 

[Asesino85]

I did about 10 mins before you replied lol and I also went back to page one and looked at this image as reference!

I think I did ok. Very nerve racking cutting your first plant. Used a straight razor, brand new and disinfected with alcohol.

It looks like you will still get growth from those nodes as there are still the little leaves trying to come out. Those come completely off so get a tad closer and clean it up just a bit more. If you want to just wait a bit longer you can do it later as well but you'll want to get those nodes to stop growing completely so all energy goes to the top only. I'd say you did pretty good and can wait a little longer until the plant is stronger and you feel more comfortable to clean it up.

 

[Stirstick]

Thanks so much for the help, I feel so much better doing this with you and everyone's support here. Its amazing!

 

[Archiweedies]

Hoooooly Shiiiiiiiiiit!!! If I wasn’t already convinced on the quadline, I definitely would be now!!! Just beautiful.

Took the words outta my mouth!
Beautiful plant there and thanks for the knowledge. I'm just getting into the clone game myself. Lots to learn!

 

[Asesino85]

Thanks so much for the help, I feel so much better doing this with you and everyone's support here. Its amazing!

You are always welcome and I can assure you that many people who view this thread will have the same exact question. Thank you for posting a couple of great pictures and being bold enough to ask a question. This is how people learn and it makes it very easy when you are responsive and post a good looking picture or two to show what you are doing. You probably just helped out a grip of "lurkers" who rarely talk and really don't ask questions. Lurkers are great too but I appreciate people like you who stick your neck out a bit. I see really good things in your future if you keep this up! This is how these forums are supposed to be in my opinion!

 

[Bchris22]

Whats up Ase, I just wanted to poke my head in and introduce myself. I found your journals through donchiefums and I am going through it now trying to catch up. Your Quadlining method has my attention and your Journal is top notch. Thanks for sharing!!

 

[Asesino85]

Whats up Ase, I just wanted to poke my head in and introduce myself. I found your journals through donchiefums and I am going through it now trying to catch up. Your Quadlining method has my attention and your Journal is top notch. Thanks for sharing!!

Thanks Bchris! Appreciate the compliment on the journal. Chief has a nice round of girls going right now and he is a great one to follow. It's because of people like him that Quadlining has really taken off. He does other training than quadlining too and is really becoming a great low stress trainer in general. When you see those kinds of plants and you think, "man I love the way they look", then you start researching on how it's done (kind of like you did). People wouldn't be looking into it if they didn't see the plants first and dislike them. I'm thankful that I've got a great group of #Quadsquad members and a lot of them are in the upper echelon of growers on these forums. Welcome to the journal!