Ase's Multi-Strain Quadlining In Coco

NO!!!!!!

ya can't kill a baby

Grow em all, you will be glad you did
I'm so bummed my big ATF was a boy, he got cut last week, but his sister is perking up

Nice plants my friend
 
Asesino85 said:
Yeah two of these are going to be monsters. I’m glad I have them all spread out because stretch would have been near impossible to control. I grew these in 5 gallon pots and I could have done 3 gallon. Didn’t expect 5 females either. Part of me wants to just get rid of the middle one and train some of the longer colas to there. I’d still be able to fill the tent and then I wouldn’t have to worry about the middle one being too short but I’m really not sure what I would even do with it. Maybe throw it outside? I’ll make that call today.
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When I want to slow down some colas growth I just remove their fan leaves. It has always worked like a charm and that's how I manage to keep pretty even canopy so far and even manage to keep let's say 3 weeks older plants with younger ones as you could see in my current journal. I think it will prevent you from having to move everything to put one outdoor. Otherwise, if you outdoor conditions are good, in fact, just put it outside as you may not loose yields if weather is good
 
Chris Scorpio said:
NO!!!!!!

ya can't kill a baby

Grow em all, you will be glad you did
I'm so bummed my big ATF was a boy, he got cut last week, but his sister is perking up

Nice plants my friend
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Thanks Chris!

I won't kill her. But I do know from growing many plants now that if a plant stay small in veg and then doesn't stretch that it is going to be a disappointing yield. The problem with a small one under the scrog net (the way I do it) is that I like to continually raise the net to support the longer colas and I can't if this thing isn't going to stretch like the others. I gave it a shot but I think it's time to just throw her outside and see if anything happens.

flashmp3 said:
When I want to slow down some colas growth I just remove their fan leaves. It has always worked like a charm and that's how I manage to keep pretty even canopy so far and even manage to keep let's say 3 weeks older plants with younger ones as you could see in my current journal. I think it will prevent you from having to move everything to put one outdoor. Otherwise, if you outdoor conditions are good, in fact, just put it outside as you may not loose yields if weather is good
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I've removed tons of leaves from both of the monsters and it just keeps growing. The only person I know that removes as many leaves as I do is @newty and that makes sense considering she was one of my first "projects" on these forums where I invested a lot of time into someone to make sure they could grow well. After her first grow I really wanted to show her what she could really do with growing and now look at her! Thankfully she just took my advice with no questions asked, which takes a lot of trust, and now she is one of the top dogs on these forums. I will be throwing the little one outdoors unless I am just plain surprised when I visit my tents today.

This is a good opportunity to also state that I do not think yield is effected by how many plants you have, but rather by the light put out in the tent. You should be able to grow the same yield off one giant plant as you can off 9 little ones. The only difference really being pot size and veg time needed. Getting rid of a little plant like the one in the middle shouldn't really effect the yield in the end at all. The plants are just starting to flower and if I were to do this in a couple weeks than I would be losing yield. The plants are at a make or break moment now though and it's my last chance to change anything before they stop stretching.
 
Asesino85 said:
Thanks Chris!

I won't kill her. But I do know from growing many plants now that if a plant stay small in veg and then doesn't stretch that it is going to be a disappointing yield. The problem with a small one under the scrog net (the way I do it) is that I like to continually raise the net to support the longer colas and I can't if this thing isn't going to stretch like the others. I gave it a shot but I think it's time to just throw her outside and see if anything happens.



I've removed tons of leaves from both of the monsters and it just keeps growing. The only person I know that removes as many leaves as I do is @newty and that makes sense considering she was one of my first "projects" on these forums where I invested a lot of time into someone to make sure they could grow well. After her first grow I really wanted to show her what she could really do with growing and now look at her! Thankfully she just took my advice with no questions asked, which takes a lot of trust, and now she is one of the top dogs on these forums. I will be throwing the little one outdoors unless I am just plain surprised when I visit my tents today.

This is a good opportunity to also state that I do not think yield is effected by how many plants you have, but rather by the light put out in the tent. You should be able to grow the same yield off one giant plant as you can off 9 little ones. The only difference really being pot size and veg time needed. Getting rid of a little plant like the one in the middle shouldn't really effect the yield in the end at all. The plants are just starting to flower and if I were to do this in a couple weeks than I would be losing yield. The plants are at a make or break moment now though and it's my last chance to change anything before they stop stretching.
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I know you are a master grower. No doubt about. When I look at the pictures I see that all the tops seem to have their fan leaves. I really removing a bud site primary fan leaves, leaving only the top part, really slow down growth. It has always worked very well for me. Another technic is what some call "tip". It s like not fimming enough to have fimming effects. This also slow down growth. I don't think removing fan leaves on the entire stem that holds the budsite slow growth down as much. But I m no expert. I just wanted to share something that have always worked wonders for me.

Regarding the loss of yield I agree. I add that too many plants in a grow space = not enough light to each
So in fact you won't loose yield. I was thinking about the possibility of less yield outdoor because of the fact not all the people have perfect weather conditions. So for many ones they get better yield indoor where everything is under control. But again if you re well located and have good weather things will be perfect
 
flashmp3 said:
I know you are a master grower. No doubt about. When I look at the pictures I see that all the tops seem to have their fan leaves. I really removing a bud site primary fan leaves, leaving only the top part, really slow down growth. It has always worked very well for me. Another technic is what some call "tip". It s like not fimming enough to have fimming effects. This also slow down growth. I don't think removing fan leaves on the entire stem that holds the budsite slow growth down as much. But I m no expert. I just wanted to share something that have always worked wonders for me.

Regarding the loss of yield I agree. I add that too many plants in a grow space = not enough light to each
So in fact you won't loose yield. I was thinking about the possibility of less yield outdoor because of the fact not all the people have perfect weather conditions. So for many ones they get better yield indoor where everything is under control. But again if you re well located and have good weather things will be perfect
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Ahh I see. I've read that works but tried it a few times in coco and it didn't seem to stop anything. Were your results in hydro or soil? I'm starting to think hardly anything I do in hydro doesn't seem to slow them down. You can also pinch the stem and crush it between the fingertips. This will cause the plant to have to repair the spot before growing more vertical and create a mini knuckle for support. I also have learned that lowering the lights a bit will help with that but you have to know where to lower them so they don't cause stress. I would have done that this time but the summer heat has me cautious. I'll tell you what though, I think 5 gallon is just way too big for 4 plants in a 4'x4' with the way I grow.
 
Pennywise said:
I've always run 4 plants in my 4 x 4 in 3 gallon soft pots.
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Usually I would too but timing has been way off on this grow. When my first run of clones failed I was guessing at a lot of things and I thought if I only had 3 females then they would never fill the whole net if they weren't bigger than normal. I did plan to veg longer as well so I took that into some consideration. If I would have done this with feminized seeds I would have done 3 gallons knowing I'd get 4. When I ended up with 5 I knew this was going to get compact and quick.

Using the same logic would you think that you could do a single plant grow to fill a 4x4' tent with a 10 gallon pot for coco? I think that's the size I will use for my one plant tent grow. Could probably even get away with doing a 7 gallon and feeding more often too.
 
A 10 gallon will work I think. These Brooklyn's are in 10's and almost take up 1/2 of my 4 x 4. If you trained a plant horizontally then scrogged it should be easy to fill the 4 x 4
 
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It's official! If you don't follow the in-between stuff on this journal than you probably haven't heard me talking about removing the middle plant lately which is quite a bit smaller than the others. I decided today that it was time for the little one to go as I already had her propped up on a stand and she still wasn't really stretching. Good news for her is I did decide to chuck her outside by my raspberries and see if anything will happen. The nights are warm right now and the daytime heat will be in the 80s for a week so she should be able to adjust well. I'm officially growing outdoors in coco! I have a nosey neighbor next door though so I am going to have to keep it hidden.

The tent yesterday.
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The tent today. Back right one will be smaller than the others but it will do fine.
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This whole process involved being very careful and pulling large branches down without breaking them and then threading/bending them into the slots that were now empty in the middle. In truth I probably broke 3 but I duct taped them up and they'll be fine. I'm very happy with the way it all turned out as this could have been a disaster in the end. I gained a few more inches away from my lights so if they continue to stretch I wont have to raise my lights anymore. They are on pulleys and the only way to get them higher is to directly fasten them to top of the tent and that's a pain. They also can't move anymore at that point. Also was able to raise the net another inch or two. The colas will all have great space and light. They will also bounce back after the bending so I'll document that when they are looking perky and happy again. Tough decision but it had to be done!

The other thing I really enjoyed is that all 5 (these 4 and the outdoor one now) of these are for sure females. I have learned a lot this grow about regs but I am very happy with my educated guessing and now knowing exactly what to look for. I'll do a post on that soon as well.
 
Pennywise said:
A 10 gallon will work I think. These Brooklyn's are in 10's and almost take up 1/2 of my 4 x 4. If you trained a plant horizontally then scrogged it should be easy to fill the 4 x 4
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It won't be scrogged but it will be quadlined. I'm confident now that I could fill a 4x4' with just quadlining and then training from there so I want to try. Likely will take the string off of my net and just leave the frame, allowing me to pull branches with string and tie them to the frame to keep spacing nice.

newty said:
GeeGee is blasting my 3x3 and she’s in 10G
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Pretty sure that's what I am going with.
 
Asesino85 said:
Thanks Chris!

I won't kill her. But I do know from growing many plants now that if a plant stay small in veg and then doesn't stretch that it is going to be a disappointing yield. The problem with a small one under the scrog net (the way I do it) is that I like to continually raise the net to support the longer colas and I can't if this thing isn't going to stretch like the others. I gave it a shot but I think it's time to just throw her outside and see if anything happens.



I've removed tons of leaves from both of the monsters and it just keeps growing. The only person I know that removes as many leaves as I do is @newty and that makes sense considering she was one of my first "projects" on these forums where I invested a lot of time into someone to make sure they could grow well. After her first grow I really wanted to show her what she could really do with growing and now look at her! Thankfully she just took my advice with no questions asked, which takes a lot of trust, and now she is one of the top dogs on these forums. I will be throwing the little one outdoors unless I am just plain surprised when I visit my tents today.

This is a good opportunity to also state that I do not think yield is effected by how many plants you have, but rather by the light put out in the tent. You should be able to grow the same yield off one giant plant as you can off 9 little ones. The only difference really being pot size and veg time needed. Getting rid of a little plant like the one in the middle shouldn't really effect the yield in the end at all. The plants are just starting to flower and if I were to do this in a couple weeks than I would be losing yield. The plants are at a make or break moment now though and it's my last chance to change anything before they stop stretching.
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Soil before and now coco. I love coco! Will never use soil again!

How is the northern light doing?
 
flashmp3 said:
Soil before and now coco. I love coco! Will never use soil again!

How is the northern light doing?
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Durban Poison? No Northern Lights this grow. Aurora Indica is a Northern Lights x Afghani but I think you're talking about the Durban Poison I've had trouble sprouting? Still no sprout. I dug around it and the seed is pretty lodged in place and I did see a little white taproot aiming down so hopefully she springs up soon.
 
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