Arteekay's Second Grow - Autos & Feminized - Mixed Strains

Nice. I need to talk to you about some DD'S soon.
 
arteekay, I can't pm you, due to my noobness but, I have a question about low humidity.
If my memory is correct, you are dealing with dry conditions.

My seeds will be in soil tomorrow and I am trying to fine tune my small box. The rh is very low, like 20% to 25%. I sprayed the inside walls and got to 30%, but dried up rather quickly. I wont have the time to spray numerous times throughout the day. Do you have any advice to give? I would be immensely grateful. Thanks, in advance.

Yeat
 
Hi, Yeat!

Obviously I'm not rtk (he's much, much taller) but if the spraying doesn't work long enough for you you could try leaving open containers of water in the box -- I did that at the start of my grow and it really helped keep the RH up for my seedlings.

Still not RTK, but I would've said the same. I got nose bleeds a lot as a kid due to dry winter air, and that was the solution. Big pots of water. Not that fanciest thing, but it works.
 
....Otherwise all the work was about how to keep the veg tent's humidity up, while keeping the flower tent 5 feet to the left 30% lower. We don't have that solved yet, but a new cheapo humidifier was purchased but not yet implemented.

Hi RTK,

I was struggling with 34% RH until I hung a towel in there with the corner in a large open tub of water. Now it hovers around 55%. If I switch the extractor off it shoots up to 90%

So cheap and cheerful way is a wet towel in the room. I cheat by filling the tub up with hot water - I don't want a big temp drop caused by cold water in the room.
 
rtk and JB -- they all look splendid! Your Early Miss has the super tight nodes I noticed on my last grow, and she's looking fine. Would she be a potential subject for pony tailing, do you think, if you wanted to give that a go?

And your DD is a sweet little girl -- can't wait to see her grow up!

I am definitively in for pony tailing one of the autos. Other than topping we haven't discussed details besides lollipoping but we have said we want to give that a try soon.

Love the wet towel idea guys!!
:goodjob::thanks:
 
I can't take credit for the wet towel idea. I read it on 420 Mag during my marathon reading sessions. My only modifications to the idea are

(1) Use hot water to help evaporation and not drop tent temps
(2) Put the corner of the towel into the open water container - I did this so it wicks and stays damp. Not doing this meant I was forever wetting the towel.

Really pleased I could share it with you. It made a huge difference in my tent. To some extent you can tune the RH by changing the size of the towel. I found an old hand towel to be perfect. If you need more humidity still, point the fan at it.
 
I can't take credit for the wet towel idea. I read it on 420 Mag during my marathon reading sessions. My only modifications to the idea are

(1) Use hot water to help evaporation and not drop tent temps
(2) Put the corner of the towel into the open water container - I did this so it wicks and stays damp. Not doing this meant I was forever wetting the towel.

Really pleased I could share it with you. It made a huge difference in my tent. To some extent you can tune the RH by changing the size of the towel. I found an old hand towel to be perfect. If you need more humidity still, point the fan at it.

How often do you replace the towel? I assume if you forgot about it, it would mold.
 
arteekay, I can't pm you, due to my noobness but, I have a question about low humidity.
If my memory is correct, you are dealing with dry conditions.

My seeds will be in soil tomorrow and I am trying to fine tune my small box. The rh is very low, like 20% to 25%. I sprayed the inside walls and got to 30%, but dried up rather quickly. I wont have the time to spray numerous times throughout the day. Do you have any advice to give? I would be immensely grateful. Thanks, in advance.

Yeat

I've been having trouble keeping my humidity up as well. I just ordered a small reptile habitat humidifier off of awell known online retailer. It's a small cool mist unit that you just sit in a little bowl of water. I'm hoping it works well but it was only $11 so no big loss of it doesn't. Wish i'd heard the towel thing about8hours ago. lol
 
CR is my favorite so far :thumb:

I'm really having a hard time picking a favorite, so for now I'm picking NEM, me and Early Miss have a history together and she looked so sad with her one cotyledon in sprout. Being Britney's sister tells me she'll take it all and produce like mad.


Nice. I need to talk to you about some DD'S soon.

Make sure to check out the community grow as well. Great thread!


arteekay, I can't pm you, due to my noobness but, I have a question about low humidity.
If my memory is correct, you are dealing with dry conditions.

My seeds will be in soil tomorrow and I am trying to fine tune my small box. The rh is very low, like 20% to 25%. I sprayed the inside walls and got to 30%, but dried up rather quickly. I wont have the time to spray numerous times throughout the day. Do you have any advice to give? I would be immensely grateful. Thanks, in advance.

Yeat

I obviously don't really "need" to reply now that our friends have given you a ton of great ideas. We did run the veg tent without air exchange for the first two weeks. During that time spraying the walls of the tent was enough to keep it up into the 80's. Since we're now venting (temporarily into the flowering tent) we need to re-evaluate our setup.


Hi, Yeat!

Obviously I'm not rtk (he's much, much taller) but if the spraying doesn't work long enough for you you could try leaving open containers of water in the box -- I did that at the start of my grow and it really helped keep the RH up for my seedlings.

I'm definitely Indica dominant, a painfully average 5'11", and a bushy one at that.

hehehe


Still not RTK, but I would've said the same. I got nose bleeds a lot as a kid due to dry winter air, and that was the solution. Big pots of water. Not that fanciest thing, but it works.

Are you sure you're not rtk? Sounds just like him! :)


rtk and JB -- they all look splendid! Your Early Miss has the super tight nodes I noticed on my last grow, and she's looking fine. Would she be a potential subject for pony tailing, do you think, if you wanted to give that a go?

And your DD is a sweet little girl -- can't wait to see her grow up!

Strickly following Atrain's ponytailing technique is out as we already topped her, so some of how incredibly tight she is comes from that. She's also the single cotyledon girl, so she got off the line with less in the tank. I've very high hopes for her and her training is far from over. LST, ponytailing, maybe even a second topping! Britney from our first grow is going crazy, so we'll have a decent supply of her strain before NEM is too old for us to be comfortable playing with.

Jaybiz did most of the LSTing in the first grow and I did the supercrop, so I think we're both leaning slightly towards the techniques we both did and have some experience with.

SOOO much more comfortable with this second grow...


Hi RTK,

I was struggling with 34% RH until I hung a towel in there with the corner in a large open tub of water. Now it hovers around 55%. If I switch the extractor off it shoots up to 90%

So cheap and cheerful way is a wet towel in the room. I cheat by filling the tub up with hot water - I don't want a big temp drop caused by cold water in the room.

Hmmm!!!! I wonder if hanging something more designed as a wick, microfibre cloth or something (unresearched) in a bucket of water outside the tent, with the wick over the intake... It'd humidify and catch pet hair.

Dammit Max, now I've got hours of research to do again. You're lucky I like ya! :rofl:


I can second the wet towel technique if I don't do anything humidity would drop to low twenties. Wet and re apply

I need another excuse to go visit them anyway, so it's a good option!


I am definitively in for pony tailing one of the autos. Other than topping we haven't discussed details besides lollipoping but we have said we want to give that a try soon.

Yeah no doubt, our first harvest taught us the reason to do early lollipopping.


I can't take credit for the wet towel idea. I read it on 420 Mag during my marathon reading sessions. My only modifications to the idea are

(1) Use hot water to help evaporation and not drop tent temps
(2) Put the corner of the towel into the open water container - I did this so it wicks and stays damp. Not doing this meant I was forever wetting the towel.

Really pleased I could share it with you. It made a huge difference in my tent. To some extent you can tune the RH by changing the size of the towel. I found an old hand towel to be perfect. If you need more humidity still, point the fan at it.

Very good modifications though, but you got me thinking of going a step further. As Jaybiz can confirm, I tend to overcomplicate things!


How often do you replace the towel? I assume if you forgot about it, it would mold.

In theory and assuming at least some air exchange, it should just dry up and be inhospitable to molds. Assuming it's actually dry and not in a ball in the corner with a wet center.


I've been having trouble keeping my humidity up as well. I just ordered a small reptile habitat humidifier off of awell known online retailer. It's a small cool mist unit that you just sit in a little bowl of water. I'm hoping it works well but it was only $11 so no big loss of it doesn't. Wish i'd heard the towel thing about8hours ago. lol

No loss anyway, even if it doesn't work give it a week or two and you'll find another use for it. Then you'll be all "sure glad I bought that when I did".

That's been my general experience at least.

Off to run "the process" on the girls. Later all!
 
Jan 18 Update. JH, CR, and NEM are 19 days old. DD is 8 days old. Temp is 72 and RH is 42%


  • DD got 420ml (because my syringe is a 60ml, and because it was an awesome number to give her) of bubbled tap water at 150ppm and 5.8 PH.

Didn't get to doing anything with the veg tent or drying space. Spaced out on some of Droopy's tiny little popcorn, quick dried. Decent, but harsh of course.

Temp and humidity aren't terrible, so I'm ok with it for another night. We'll likely have to manicure up Trudy tomorrow night so we'll look at reworking it then.

Sadly, I have to report that Jaybiz and I have decided to go our separate ways. I really couldn't be happier. :)

Yes that's right, we're each gonna take one plant as our own to do whatever we want without discussion. I wanted the DD of course, and Jaybiz is really the one that wanted the photo anyway so CR is his. I'll be taking her stats and pictures, but everything else is his to do whatever with. The current plan is CR will stay in the veg tent when he flips it to 12/12, and the three autos will move to the flowering tent as the first grow finishes up. The two unclaimed autos will still be jointly decided on by consensus, but we're planning on training them long rather than square, figure we can fit three in better that way.

Reason for the change in who will stay in the veg tent is to maximize our lights. I'd rather run the autos at 18/6 or 20/4 under the two Mars II 900's and have JB train CR into an approximate 2x2 and flower her under the spider (at 200w) at 12/12.

Couldn't find a better housemate, so that ain't changing anytime soon by my choice. :rofl:




CR (6.8 lbs, down from 7.2 yesterday). Still a few days to go):



Bottom node:







Crazy top:









She really looks like two separate plants to me:






JH (16.2 lbs, down from 18.0 yesterday). I'm guessing another week before she sees anything, same as NEM below:



Across the top







Topping went awesome, but I just noticed how much she is leaning. Ah well:







Next node down from the topping:





NEM (16.4 lbs, down from 18.4 yesterday):










DD (6.0 before watering, 7.2 after). She got another 120ml extra water right at the fabric pot edge down. Figure it'll help keep the rest of the top from drying out too much:









Back in the tent:
 
Looking at the pictures again, I'm thinking NEM might benefit from some ponytailing on her two new tops, to let the next node catch up a bit. JH I'm thinking we might top a second time even. Discussion required of course.
 
Nice. I'm getting ready to top my 4 girls after I feed tomorrow. Well, I'll wait a day to top.

Cheers
 
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