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Appleberry & BabyBoom Autos: Meds In LOS
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Hi V, good morningPage 7.
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Yea there's 2 journals. I lost continuity a few weeks ago when I got sick and posted less than I like and the garden got overlooked some. I'm back!
In your little NL pic I see the same leaf tip dry/curling up issue...have posted some requests for help. Since that pic looks similar to my issue what is the issue...simply “fall colors” and the plant consuming nutrients from the lower leaves? Buds look great!
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Hey cr8, I think it's fall colors for that one. I have had issues before with drying leaf tips in flower and one I don't remember fixing. Phosphorus def might be one thing to look at. I found this in the problem solver for phosphorus. Does it look like the issue?
Phosphorus (P) Mobile Element and Macro Element
Benefit: Phosphorus does a lot of things for the plant. One of the most important parts of Phosphorus is: It aids in root growth and influences the vigour of the plant and is
one of the most important elements in flowering as well helps to germinate seedlings.
Phosphorus is an essential plant nutrient, and since it is needed in large amounts, it is classified as a macronutrient. Phosphorus is a MAJOR important nutrient in the plants reproductive stages. Without this element the plants will have a lot of problems blooming without proper levels of Phosphorus.
When your plants are deficient in phosphorus, this can overall reduce the size of your plants. Not enough causes slow growth and causes the plant to become weak, to little amount of Phosphorus causes slow growths in leaves that may or may not drop off. The edges all around the leaves or half of the leaves can be brownish and work its way inwards a bit causing the part of the leaves to curl up in the air a bit. Fan leaves will show dark greenish/purplish and yellowish tones along with a dullish blue colour to them. Sometimes the stems can be red, along with red petioles that can happen when having a Phosphorus deficiency. This isn't a sure sure sign of you having one though, but can be a sign. Some strains just show the red petioles and stems from its genes.
So pretty much the overall dark green colour with a purple, red, or blue tint to the fan leaves is a good sign of a Phosphorus deficiency. Having Cold weather (below 50F/10C) can make phosphorous absorption very troublesome for plants.
Many people get a Phosphorus deficiency confused with a fungus problem because the ends of the leaves look like a fungus problem, But the damage occurs at the end of the leaves. side of the leaves and has a glass like feeling to it as if it had a ph problem. Parts affected by a phosphorus deficiency are: Older Leaves, Whole plant, Petioles.
Too much Phosphorus levels affect plant growth by suppressing the uptake of: Iron, potassium and Zinc, potentially causing deficiency symptoms of these nutrients to occur def in plants. A Zinc deficiency is most common under excessive phosphorus conditions,
As well as causing other nutrients to have absorption troubles like zinc and copper. Phosphorus fluctuates when concentrated and combined with calcium
Problems with Phosphorus being locked out by PH troubles
Cold wet soils, acid or very alkaline soils, compacted soil.
Soil
Phosphorus gets locked out of soil growing at ph levels of 4.0-5.5
Phosphorus is absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 6.0-7.5 (wouldn't recommend having a ph of over 7.0 in soil) Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Phosphorus deficiency.
Hydro and Soil less Mediums
Phosphorus gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 6.0-8.5.
Phosphorus is absorbed best in Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 4.0- 5.8. (Wouldn't recommend having a ph over 6.5 in hydro and soil less mediums.) Best range for hydro and soil less mediums is 5.0 to 6.0. Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Phosphorus Deficiency.
Solution to fixing a Phosphorus deficiency
Some deficiency during flowering is normal, but too much shouldn't be tolerated. Any chemical or organic fertilizers that have Phosphorus in them will fix a Phosphorus deficiency. If you have a phosphorus deficiency you should use any N-P-K ratio that is over 5.Again Peters all purpose 20-20-20 is a good mix. Miracle grow Tomato plant food, Miracle grow All purpose plant food (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients, or it will cause nutrient burn!) Other forms of phosphorus supplements are: Bone meal, which is gradual absorption, I suggest making it into a tea for faster use, where bone/blood meal is slow acting, but when made into a tea it works quicker! Fruit eating bat guano, which is fast absorption, Worm castings, which is gradual absorption, Fish meal, which is medium absorption, Soft Rock Phosphate, which is medium absorption, Jamaican or Indonesian Guano, which is fast absorption. Crabshell, which is slow absorption. Tiger Bloom , which is fast absorption.
Here is a list of things to help fix a Phosphrous Deficiency.
Chemical
Advanced nutrients Bloom (0-5-4)
Vita Bloom (0-7-5)
BC Bloom (1.1-4.4-7)
GH Flora Bloom (0-5-4)
GH Maxi Bloom (5-15-14)
GH Floranova Bloom (4-8-7)
Dyna-Gro Bloom (3-12-6)
Fox Farm Tiger Bloom (2-8-4)
Awsome Blossums
Organic
Dr. Hornby's Iguana Juice Bloom (4-3-6)
Advanced Nutrients Mother Earth Bloom (.5-1.5-2)
Fox Farm Big Bloom (.01-.3-.7)
Earth Juice Bloom (0-3-1)
Pure Blend Bloom (2.5-2-5)
Pure Blend Pro Bloom (2.5-2-5)
Buddswell (0-7-0)
Sea Island Jamaican Bat Guano (1-10-0)
Indonesian Bat Guano (0-13-0)
Rainbow Mix Bloom (1-9-2)
Earth Juice Bloom (0-3-1)
BIO BLOOM (2-6-3.5)
AGE OLD BLOOM (5-10-5)
ALASKA MORBLOOM (0-10-10)
METANATURALS ORGANIC BLOOM (1-5-5)
Any of these will cure your phosphorus deficiency. Affected leaves will not show recovery but new growth will appear normal.
Now if you added to much chemical ferts and or organics,( which is hard to burn your plants when using organics) You need to Flush the soil with plain water. You need to use 2 times as much water as the size of the pot, for example: If you have a 5 gallon pot and need to flush it, you need to use 10 gallons of water to rinse out the soil good enough to get rid of excessive nutrients.
Note: Blood Meal, Dried Blood, Guanos, Kelp Meal, Cotton Seed Meal, Peat Moss,
Sulfur and fish meal are all acidic and can bring your ph down, so if you add these please monitor your ph when using those.
Note: Bone Meal, Rock Phosphate, Wood Ashes pretty much all ashes, Shellfish Compost and Crab Meal are all alkaline and can make your ph go up, so if you add any of these please monitor your ph.
Picture 1 is a Phosphorus deficiency during vegetative growth.
Picture 2 is what a phosphorus deficiency looks like in flowering.
(Picture 1 is Mine)
Great answer otter! 
Black Thumbs
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The Appleberry is looking real nice heading into flower
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Hey BT, she's showing good structure so far. I hope she keeps to form.
Stltoed
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Nice plants Otter! May I ask who bred the Northern Lights?Good evening folks. I got a pic of the Appleberries. Those are the indicas I thought were autos and aren't. They are almost 2 weeks into the 12/12 schedule so stretch is slowing. I can't wait to see what they look like when I take the giant leaves on the main stem off. They're blocking a lot of light. I have a lot of colas coming through finally! That's happiness right there!. This run will be a good indication of how to grow in a 5 gal pot. I've been curious to try it but not ready. 45+11 today I believe. Little northern lights is still kicking with amber just beginning looking cute as ever smelling like the chopping shears. Oh and babyboom pics too
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Hi Stltoed, got them at GYO. Haven't grown anything from them but this. Have you?
Stltoed
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I haven't. A friend of mine grew NL from Crop King and while the plants did well, not record breaking, the bud had no power. I was curious if you used Crop King.
Now I'm not rousting Crop King... this was their first grow, so it's highly probable that they just blew it. I will also add that they weren't too interested in advice haha.
My first grow was Northern Lights and Great White Shark. I loved them both, but the Northern Lights was so smooth. It was some of the best bud I ever had, up to that point. I dont remember the breeder. The Great White Shark was from Bulldog.
Anyway, I was just curious. I haven't talked to you in a long time, thought I'd say hello.
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Appreciate the drop in. I've only grown one other northern lights and it was a nl auto from canuk. We thought it was excellent medicine in spite of me growing it as my first cannabis plant.
Stltoed
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It's a wonderful strain. Easy to grow, baseball bat colas (when done correctly, and a great high. An auto sounds intriguing.
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Happy afternoon! I watered the Babyboom autos today. they're taking a gallon of water with a tsp of recharge microbes and 25 ml of terpinator. So far every 5 days
That particular one is high thc like 20% or like that.
Stltoed
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Another question... if you dont mind.
Terminator. Do you like it? What exactly does it do?
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Happy afternoon! I watered the Babyboom autos today. they're taking a gallon of water with a tsp of recharge microbes and 25 ml of terpinator. So far every other 5 days. Starting to get some nice orange hairs. Today is day 60. The day the breeder says to end it all. I think a couple more weeks and we'll look again. One has a very sweet smell and the other a burnt one somehow. They haven't skipped a beat in the healthy way they're growing. Both happy as clams. Pics
Next stop: Appleberry photo, strip of some leaves tonight and water. They slowed stretching to almost a stop and are budding up pretty good. Day 45 and 15 from flip. Going to be a scissor party tonight! Leaves flying everywhere! Hope to get back tonight with picks.
Stltoed
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Nice! Looks great.Happy afternoon! I watered the Babyboom autos today. they're taking a gallon of water with a tsp of recharge microbes and 25 ml of terpinator. So far every other 5 days. Starting to get some nice orange hairs. Today is day 60. The day the breeder says to end it all. I think a couple more weeks and we'll look again. One has a very sweet smell and the other a burnt one somehow. They haven't skipped a beat in the healthy way they're growing. Both happy as clams. Pics
Next stop: Appleberry photo, strip of some leaves tonight and water. They slowed stretching to almost a stop and are budding up pretty good. Day 45 and 15 from flip. Going to be a scissor party tonight! Leaves flying everywhere! Hope to get back tonight with picks.
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Terpinator has sulfur in it and I read sulfur for flowering is good for bud size. I haven't had a finished grow yet so I can't say how I like it. Others have. My knowledge is limited but I found this from someone claiming to work for the terpinator co..
Hey Everyone! My name’s Andrew and I work with Rhizoflora who makes Terpinator. Thank you for the review SnotBubbles, we appreciate you giving Terpinator a run. If you ever have any questions or are interested in our recommended dosage program (usage rates are pretty vague on the bottle) always feel free to give me a call at 800-681-1757 and I’d love to share what we’ve found works best for getting the most bang for your buck.
@chronic Gains – There’s definitely more ingredients than Potassium Sulfate and carbohydrates in Terpinator. The ingredients that give Terpinator its kick are organic plant extracts and enzymatically based (phytoalexins and phytochemicals). We don’t really go too into detail on the ingredients listing on the label because this product was 6 years in the making and sometimes when you’ve put that much work into something, you’d like to enjoy its success. I would still recommend supplementing with carbohydrates during the crucial times of flower to make sure your plant has enough carbohydrates to reach its maximum potential as well as to feed your mycorrhizae and microbes in the soil when the plant gets stingy with its providing carbs to the root zone
Stltoed
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Interesting stuff. I've seen it of course. I understand they are a sponsor. But, it really looked like a gimmick so I never pursued it. Maybe we can have a similar conversation after you try it for a while. Thank you for all the info... good stuff.
Snotbubbles?
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Sure, sounds good. The stuff smells kind of neutral. I like that about it so far. I've used sugar ee and sour g before and feel they add a flavor to the plant. I think I just want the plants flavor. Maybe more of it and more branches and budsites too.
Snotbubbles is the guys handle. He had a picture of his 3 or 5 month old I think that sneezed and had a snot bubble. Simple as that hehe.
Stltoed
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I wanted to be snotbubbles, but it was taken
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