Amy Gardner Of Eden: Forest Adventures With Doc Bud’s HBB

[Amy Gardner]

That's so cool Amy, I'm stoked for you.

was so disappointed because I thought all the buds would be way too late to finish. It was later than usual, but the buds did finish pretty much. I'm pleased with the quality and quantity last summer. I dwelled on it for awhile, but didn't make any sense, so I dismissed it.

That’s good to know they finished ok - thanks Bode, i really will sleep easier knowing about that

approach of looking, thinking, clip a little here, smoke a little there, making it a zen experience.

It really is. There are times where some part of my brain thinks I should be writing stuff down that i’m seeing etc being very academic about it - and then the more dominant side thankfully kicks in and the understanding that cultivating the cultivator requires many hours of sitting looking noticing thinking dreaming looking sitting and noticing ... I got time...

would love to have a Candida that looked like that

Weeeelll... EDIT: zealotry censored

Thanks for the compliment my friend. Its a bit finicky outdoors I think - in these conditions anyway. I’m starting to think It’ll need to be indoor in the future (did I say that already...?)

Beautiful update Amy. I love how healthy they all look, nice green petioles everywhere.

Thanks neiko learnin’ from the best

The CM did have lots of purple petioles in response to some stress while still in the 1gal but it seems to have passed and all the new ones are nice and green

White widow is beautiful! That spider though!

Yes, i’m very keen on White Widow too! As was @Heavenly Hybrid. So much so i ordered more seeds of this one. I gave a seed or 2 to a buddy actually and wonder if they’re being grown out right now... I should contact him and find out.

Your garden is looking lovely, Amy!

I'm getting a bit antsy here in the northern hemisphere -- can't wait to start my outdoor grow, but am living vicariously through you and your garden.

Thanks BeezLuiz! I’m very happy to help especially since I got the same out of your garden whe it was winter here! And likely i will again ... soon ...

Really cool macros, and if you're gonna do a crafts project, we're gonna need pics!

Thanks! I love the views of the tiny world my macro lens gives me... and us!

Garden is really looking good Amy. Nice score on the beans and pipe.
I'm sure your going to get great things out of getting that certificate. Just remember us little people. Lol

Thanks Derby - I have no ambitions to conquer the world! Very likely I’ll still be here no matter what happens. I am really excited about filling out some knowledge gaps and making a few connections. Plus their medical cannabis courses are going to be awesome once i get there. Folks around here are very nervous about it and I figure if people really want to try it, but are nervous, the best thing i can do if I want to guide them, is formalise what I know about it. That way I will have better confidence in what i’m saying as well as having something tangible in terms of a qualification for the comfort of others. I just wan tot be able to help people overcome the barrier of suspicion about the plant and to guide people in using cannabis to manage or treat whatever they need to. I’m making some CBD oil for a pup atm. There’s not much research on that yet but newty has been very helpful (she treats her canine baby for arthritis) - so education is also about meeting people and exchanging experience and knowledge, like what happens around here, and I’m expecting the course of study will put me in touch with some (more) great people.

I’ve delayed breakfast by hours sitting here, toking and catching up on the forum... better go eat!

 

[InTheShed]

 

[Derbybud]

We've been giving our dogs .5 ml of my 2-1 cbd-thc oil. Dogs run up stains again like they're puppies.

 

[Amy Gardner]

Update supplemental and fun photo dump!

Back in mid January, Shed noticed in a pic that the early pistils (preflower) had dried/shriveled. I noticed this happen to all the plants but didn’t have the energy to discuss it at the time and just hoped it would turn itself around (like shed noted at the time too) and thankfully it has. I don’t know what caused it or if it is connected to the false start the CM had as well (it had pisitls in the tops - then it didn’t). We had some crazy weather - dark wet days with searing heat in between so likely it wa just that which caused bait phenomena.

It is turning around so i thought i’d supplement the update: the day after my big ‘clean-up’ prune the Critical Mass had/has pistils coming out the tops all over - it was like the pruning kicked it in (a total illusion perhaps) or it was already happening, in which case it’s possible my timing was terrible for the tidyup prune on that one! Not to worry, it really doesnt seem to have slowed it down at all! I’m also very pleased to announce that white widow is now covered in preflower pistils again It’s such a beautiful stage...

Candida has some new one too I’m pretty sure, but i couldn’t quite get to her with the camera.

White Widow maybe has some starting to push out the top... maybe, just maybe that’s a pistil....

This is Critical Mass top... definitely in flower now

And here’s a treat. Check out this excellent bug! it was on the Sucker Punch auto flower ...

I’m working on a thread dedicated to my pest and predator pics, both to have fin collecting them and also to focus discussion when trying to identify. Then I’ll ask @Pterostychus to sub in to it for ongoing expert input. He doesnt mind me tagging him to call him out for the help, but he doesn’t always see it, which is totally understandable - so that’s my plan. I’m working on it today. I wonder what this one is tho... it looked like a spec of dirt to the naked eye - then just as i reached down to brisk it off I had to loom again. I’m glad I did!

I kept another couple of pics from that foray onto the garden... sometimes it’s hard to delete...

White Widow architecture...

I always flick these off when i see them - “faf off with your aphid farming practices!” ... but the photo was fun to catch first!

 

[Amy Gardner]

We've been giving our dogs .5 ml of my 2-1 cbd-thc oil. Dogs run up stains again like they're puppies.

Excellent! Thanks derby!

Can you tell me more about how you dose them? And do you know the approx strength of your oil? My friend is suuuper THC nervous. I have some 2:1 CDB Critical cure that I use for myself and my partner who is THC intolerant is ok micro dosing with it as well. I’m seeking some all CBD flower i know someone locally has (CBD therapy) but it’s delayed and besides I wouldn’t know so well how to estimate dosage b/c i didnt grow it myself.

So. I am wanting to try some of teh 2:1 for her - was just wary because of the THC and my friend’s fear. This gives me some confident to try some micro doses and see how the dog goes. WHat is the approx weight of your dogs derby?

 

[InTheShed]

“faf off with your aphid farming practices!”

LOL!

Okay back to your discussion with Derby on CBD and dogs...

 

[Amy Gardner]

and if you're gonna do a crafts project, we're gonna need pics!

Oh - i meant to say... I might just order these ones pre-made for me But if it happens, and I get to using them... o yes! There’ll be pics!

 

[InTheShed]

Okay now back to your discussion with Derby on CBD and dogs!

 

[Derbybud]

Ok both dogs are right at 40 lbs. I'm sorry I really don't know the potency of my oils. I just grab a bag out of the freezer and decarb and make oil. I'm always the first taster and when i get a buzz I back off some and the dogs get less than half of what I use.

 

[Amy Gardner]

Ok both dogs are right at 40 lbs. I'm sorry I really don't know the potency of my oils. I just grab a bag out of the freezer and decarb and make oil. I'm always the first taster and when i get a buzz I back off some and the dogs get less than half of what I use.

Thanks man! Every little piece of info is golden Like newty said, there’s almost no research or study done on it yet so there’s not a lot of info and like with all our own uses, we help each other out so much just sharing what we’ve done and how it went - or didnt go, as the case may be. Honestly sometimes it’s just really helpful to hear some one say (*figuratievly speaking of course ) “hey we took ‘this’ much prepared ‘this’ way and nobody died!” That’s an extreme example of course, but I hope you get what I mean. Experimentation takes just a little bit of bravery here n there and that requires buddies! Eh!

 

[beez0404]

This one stands to attention when there is cloud cover so her best days are those not too hot ones where there is a very light covering of cloud

Amy is there no way you could put up one of those (no clue what they're called) shades made of really thin black material? I see tomato farmers down here use them. Picture one of those floor length mirrors

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• beez0404
• Feb 4, 2019

What I see them do is hammer two vertical pieces of cheap conduit pipe (usually) or sometimes wooden poles. In place of the mirror part they have a frame with that black semi transparent material to partially shade the plants in the heat of the day.

 

[SmokeyMcFly]

Plants look great and amazing shots!

 

[Amy Gardner]

Amy is there no way you could put up one of those (no clue what they're called) shades made of really thin black material? I see tomato farmers down here use them. Picture one of those floor length mirrors

mirror.jpg

• beez0404
• Feb 4, 2019

What I see them do is hammer two vertical pieces of cheap conduit pipe (usually) or sometimes wooden poles. In place of the mirror part they have a frame with that black semi transparent material to partially shade the plants in the heat of the day.

I was standing looking at it today beez, looking spectacular - it’s one of those perfect days. Enoug sun that there are shadows most of the time - but there is a filtering cloud layer. I was thinking about something exactly like that. Or some kind of greenhouse panel above. I’ve been thinking about doin that for keeping rain off once their flowering too... so yes! Thank you for saying. Its a good idea - and i’m Going to see about something. Nothing like that happens quickly here tho (well rarely) - I was actually standing there planning a second raised bed elsewhere where I could cover it, like a leanto mini greenhouse just for Candida. I can see it for next year for sure

Plants look great and amazing shots!

Thanks Smokey and welcome to my Eden

I’m glad to have you along! Things are just getting exciting with the transition to flower at last and I for one am ready to sit back and watch that happen!
Popcorn?

 

[Bode]

Highya Amy of Eden,

I have seen (in journals) that another person put up a small (4 poles) structure to fasten a rain shield over some flowering ladies to keep rain off flowers during botrytis season. A shade cloth would work also, or maybe switch covers in mid season, lol. Just trying to help. My ex-boss (retired now) use to say "It won't hurt it even if it doesn't help it".

 

[kelticBlue]

huntsman spider

Outstanding!

 

[Amy Gardner]

Update: the soil of Eden

Prompted by something Archie asked in Shed’s journal about whether anyone was using @Doc Bud ’s High Brix Blend outdoors, I realise I haven’t said much about the soil in the raised bed, really - except for when I was a bit stressed that the custom ammendment was stuck in customs. Anyway - even if I did, it’s worth repeating

The plants in pots all have first run DBHBB soil, so that’s fairly straight forward - it’s just the same as other kit grows, except outside (although I have mentioned that there’s no ProMix HP here so I had to buffer some peatmoss myself with Doc’s guidance - and I think we’ve got that right now).

The raised bed is the soil I built for my grow last summer (2017-18) and I grew these in it... A CBD Critical Cure

and a sativa dominant hybrid, Professor Chaos

The original soil was a mix of humus from various worm composted sources and lots of little rocks (that are just in the ground here, lots of quartz) and some veggie garden mix from the garden centre and the ‘dirt’ and clay from our forest and around the garden.

I amended it with Oyster shell flour, crushed limestone, basalt and gypsum (aiming for the 6/5/3 ratio), along with small amounts of neem, wood ash and biochar, kelp meal and dead insects, a little borax and a little epsoms.

I used my own-made lactobacillus serum and fermented teas made from seaweed and another from stinging nettle (this was awesome - until i let it go anaerobic and had to ditch it). I foliar sprayed regularly using seaweed and casuarina - which is a big tree that grows here and is equivalent to horsetail so is very nutritious and a great antifungal agent. It was the first time I’d done something other than stick a seed amongst the ornamental garden and water it wth Seasol only for the duration - I was pretty happy with the soil and the grow.

Here’s the interesting part. All along while I did this soil build and grow I was reasearching Doc Bud’s work on developing the high brix kit and high brix farming in general. So, I tried to reduce the amount of compost in my soil mix and lean heavily towards the minerals and other amendments etc. My garden helper at the time was convinced I needed more compost etc. - we “stood off” a bit about it and in the end I compromised and so did he . He thought I had way too little, I thought I had way too much

By the end of the grow (well, by about half way through, actually) I knew enough and had seen enough to know I’d be ordering the kit to work with here and testing the raised bed soil for it as well. Not incidentally, by the end of the season that garden helper was asking me to remind him what I did to the soil

On to this season - I had that soil tested last year to see if it was amendable and one of the results of the test was the strong directive to add no kind of organic matter/fertiliser to the soil! Way too much organic matter for a high brix grow in there already. It was also lacking in some micro nutrients and had too much of others, so not great balances. There’s no way to know any of this without a test.

The soil was still, obviously, amendable though and that’s what you see the Candida and the Critical Mass growing (like the clappers!) in now.

So the results of my soil test, after a full grow and a winter, looked like this:

Doc sent me this report, along with a recipe to do up my own ammendment to make it compatible with the kit (which will take 2 seasons to reach a baseline). I also had the option of having him make it up for me and send it. Seeing as that sounded better and easier and I needed kit supplies anyway, I got Doc to do it

Beacasue of the micronutirent issues, I’m to use Snake Oil - a very powerful booster for such things. It goes in with the brix foliar spray, but only once per month. It’s had one dose through each plant already and another is due next week.

I now, at very little cost including the cost of the soil test itself, have enough ammendment to do it next season as well and then I’ll test again. I also have enough ammendment to do the same amount of soil again, twice, so I plan to dig out - more accurately employ someone else to dig out - the bush pod soil pits from last season (which was the same mix of soil) and i will ammend that and see how it goes, either in another raised bed somewhere or in pots, next season.

So that’s what’s happening in the raised bed. It’s my own soil, previously grown in and then tested and amended especially and appropriately with a custom ammendment in order to grow using Doc’s High Brix Blend system of drenches, tea and foliar spras.

So this, my friends is the becoming of a high Brix Eden in my garden, and considering this is a sub-par year (for a few reasons, one of which is that it’s the first year amending it this way) it’s looking pretty fine to mine eyes so far

Cheers Doc,

 

[Amy Gardner]

Gee, that cheap bamboo screening really is cheap and crappy isn’t it! How much it has changed since last year. ONe day I’ll get something better quality there

Outstanding!

 

[Graytail]

For an indoor grower like myself, it's always a bit awesome to see a young one out under the sun with all the soil it can use.

 

[InTheShed]

Excellent write up and explainer. Thank you for responding to my call . Were you going to post a link in AW's thread or shall I?

 

[StoneOtter]

So please share with me what you know or would advise regarding timing on the final “clean-up” prune to get ready for flower.

Hi Amy, Last year I had pretty good luck with making sure the plant had some air flow through the middle. I started early picking a few leaves at a time especially if they blocked future bud sites. I didn't take a whole lot but didn't hesitate if there was too much darkness in an area or moisture between leaves. Not being an exact science makes it hard to be precise explaining. I'm sure 90% of the leaves I left on.