dynamo1
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Those look so nice, they feel happy -no doubt
Amy Gardner Of Eden: Forest Adventures With Doc Bud’s HBB
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Flawless. 
Derbybud
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Beautiful garden Amy. Everything looks so happy and in its place. Nicely done.
Love that green color. And great light!
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Yah - I was halfway out there when it sent me back for the camera, twilight can be so beautiful.
Looking fabulous
Heavenly Hybrid
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Stunning and green! Beautiful work Amy (photos AND plants!)Weekend early morning feels...
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Thank you Heavenly
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Ok fellow growers, please help me learn form your experience and knowledge about pruning for optimising flowering.
I am gong to take off numerous lower shoots on all plants - concentrating on ones that wont see any sunlight. Not fan leaves mind you, they stay on. I’m talking about nodal shoots.
My question for this concerns TIMING
Ive heard people say that doing this at the wrong time is bad and can damage yield (but when is wrong?
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I’ve also heard that one shouldn’t do it all at once, or should do it all at once, or after watering or not during stretch etc etc.
I’m canvassing what folks know about this as it’s not something Ive ever really done - because I’m outside and never felt the need (except for removing dead leaves or stuff too close to the ground).
Currently my plants are due to start flowering any minute. No lower branch pruning has been done (apart from the removal of teh lowest 2 nodes on each plant very early on).
So please share with me what you know or would advise regarding timing on the final “clean-up” prune to get ready for flower.
I am gong to take off numerous lower shoots on all plants - concentrating on ones that wont see any sunlight. Not fan leaves mind you, they stay on. I’m talking about nodal shoots.
My question for this concerns TIMING
Ive heard people say that doing this at the wrong time is bad and can damage yield (but when is wrong?
).I’ve also heard that one shouldn’t do it all at once, or should do it all at once, or after watering or not during stretch etc etc.
I’m canvassing what folks know about this as it’s not something Ive ever really done - because I’m outside and never felt the need (except for removing dead leaves or stuff too close to the ground).
Currently my plants are due to start flowering any minute. No lower branch pruning has been done (apart from the removal of teh lowest 2 nodes on each plant very early on).
So please share with me what you know or would advise regarding timing on the final “clean-up” prune to get ready for flower.
Highya AmyG of Eden,
I used to remove fans close to the main stalk, and remove branches at the bottom, but left more than most. Also, no pruning during stretch. At the end, I remove the ones as they turn yellow (outside).
I read a decent argument for taking many fans. They argued fans are for storing nutrients (mostly). With today's growers and nutrients, the fans aren't as important as before. You decide according as to how much stock you put into that argument.
Personally, I agree mostly with the argument, but I grow outside, and have bigger plants. I'm thinking there are some pretty big demands on nutrients at different times. I'm still trying to find what, and when.
So, at the end of my grow, fans turn yellow and are removed. Tells me that nutrients were needed. But, that's just me, outside. Cheers
I used to remove fans close to the main stalk, and remove branches at the bottom, but left more than most. Also, no pruning during stretch. At the end, I remove the ones as they turn yellow (outside).
I read a decent argument for taking many fans. They argued fans are for storing nutrients (mostly). With today's growers and nutrients, the fans aren't as important as before. You decide according as to how much stock you put into that argument.
Personally, I agree mostly with the argument, but I grow outside, and have bigger plants. I'm thinking there are some pretty big demands on nutrients at different times. I'm still trying to find what, and when.
So, at the end of my grow, fans turn yellow and are removed. Tells me that nutrients were needed. But, that's just me, outside. Cheers
I did some research into hormone production and transport within plant tissues and found that old fans are primarily carb factories. They turn light into sugar. The newer fans are still in the hormone loop and can affect plant growth, but the old ones are just old factories.
When the plant is in a spurt, I leave the fans alone, unless it's very overcrowded. That's true of veg, and early bloom as the plant stretches. Once it's finished the stretch, it'll often shed fans on its own - the lowers are getting less light by that point and the extra carbs aren't needed anymore.
So for me, I like to tidy up the week just before bloom and just after stretch. And you can get good cuts just before bloom.
When the plant is in a spurt, I leave the fans alone, unless it's very overcrowded. That's true of veg, and early bloom as the plant stretches. Once it's finished the stretch, it'll often shed fans on its own - the lowers are getting less light by that point and the extra carbs aren't needed anymore.
So for me, I like to tidy up the week just before bloom and just after stretch. And you can get good cuts just before bloom.
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ANd this is an excellent tip
.Does that mean that if anyone was to remove fans, we should avoid taking the new ones or risk hampering growth?
I always leave the fans when I take the shoots
Does that mean that if anyone was to remove fans, we should avoid taking the new ones or risk hampering growth?
I always leave the fans when I take the shoots
Actually, it's the opposite. Removing new fans will direct that growth hormone into new growth. Taking old fans has no effect other than to remove some production capacity. We can see it as we prune and shape - the plant will react in the new growth but not in the old.
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Another way to look at it is that the energy from old fans is shared by the whole plant. But new growth has a more local effect.
Priceless info there Gray!! Not my thread but gotta say Thank You!
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Stellar. Thank you.
These nuggets of knowledge and wisdom were exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to draw out
Go ahead and say daj!!
Do you mean new growth as in top veg growth?
I take the lower internodal shoots whenever I have time and the weather is nice. My plants don't seem to mind either way. Does that help?