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Amy Gardner Of Eden: Forest Adventures With Doc Bud’s HBB
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Heavenly Hybrid
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Can you specify what internodal shoots means for me please? I think I understand, but I want to be sure.
Newest growth - even on the lowers.
Another tip. You can make many clones from one long shoot. Just cut it into segments and they should all root the same.
One long shoot with only one top? Or one long shoot with side branching? Will a bare stem root with nothing on it? I haven't tried that one.
Wellllll ... you need an active node with a fan or two ...
So you can cut above the fan and root the upper and lower stems? Interesting!
Derbybud
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With your outdoor growing in soil i don't think you need to take much. Maybe a bit of the lowers and some in the center to get good air flow. I never touch them during stretch but after stretch they get a big whack job but I'm growing inside and i'm trying to keep fresh air thru the plant and light penetration down to the top of the pot so i get less larf and more mature buds. Outside you shouldn't have to worry as much about that.
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I honestly never have before. I just decided to do a little trimming this year so see how I go with it. I’ll mostly take lower branching nodes
I dont know if this is right, but what I’m referring to is the branching that comes of lower parts of every stem, including the main stem. Every leaf spot where a new shoot can develop is a node - I think. So the top of stem is a growth tip and the side branching is internodal shoots - or probably just nodal shoots - because internodal is really the space between nodes. Maybe I just made it up
Anyway - that’s what I mean when I say it.I got totally inspired before and put down the update to spend some time in the garden, pruning
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Update: State of the Garden
That’s just a little eye candy from the Autos to get us started
This time last season, 3 different strains (2 indicas and a sativa dominant hybrid) were all pushing pistils and lots of them (top, side, e’rywhere). This season, apart from the false start Critical Mass had before it started preflowering all over the place, there are still no pistils in any tops. I’m yet to inspect today.
I’m developing a possibly dubious theory about this but hear me out, let’s see what you think.
FYI, I have no possible light at night issues. It’s the bush, miles away from any town and we have no outdoor lights.
Last season there was a dark moon in mid January, about 3 weeks after the summer solstice. All plants had lots of pistils by the 26th of Jan, about 10 days after that dark moon.
This year, there was a dark moon a few days after the solstice and then not another one until now, (Sunday/Monday coming).
I’m beginning to wonder if, outside, it’s a combination of daylight hours reduction and very dark nights that is needed to trigger flower onset.
It could be nothing like this and I may be way off track. I certainly know that moonlight isn’t enough to interfere with flowering once its happening. I’m just wondering about the triggering of flower-start because I’m wracking my brains as to why things this year would be so much later like this... ... It’s something to make a note of here in any case - so I am - for the purposes of observation over the coming years.
Perhaps not incidentally, my gardening partner noted that everything seems to be happening late this year, including fruiting of things like beans and cucumber. I hope that means the cool humid weather that usually comes in April is delayed as well
SO! On with the show!
White Widow continues to impress. Some of the lowers and side shoots have turned into full blown branches with a growth explosion over the last week.
That got a big tidy up pruning today.
The raised bed - lookback
I like to do this a bit as it helps me better see what changes are happening. This is 2 weeks ago on Jan 18.
And then yesterday...
This is all pre prune btw. I hope preflower is different to flowering stretch with regard to pruning because I just took a lot of tiny shoots down low on all the branches off.
No matter really - it has way more tops than I expected so will get plenty for my needs in any case.
Critical Mass
I dont have after pruning shots. I didn’t want the distraction of documenting. It was wonderful to just sit quietly looking at all their parts and taking off little bits here n there as they caught my attention.
Candida CD1
Still has the dropsy sometimes - not in these photos tho. I think I’ve noticed that its either a heat thing or a light intensity thing. The harsh Australian sun is fiercer than that Canadian sun where this was bred. I’m pretty sure some of the genetic work was done outdoors, maybe all. There is certainly lots of outdoor pics on their site. Or, it’s any bright light when its hot. This one stands to attention when there is cloud cover so her best days are those not too hot ones where there is a very light covering of cloud - so still plenty of light but not searing. Yesterday was like that - these shots are then.
This one is after standing tall all night - without leanback.
Then after being leant back for the day.
And from above (after leaning back)
The day before all these pics, everyone got a big hearty Transplant Drench at 1.5ml per soil gal (and 10% of what ever that amount was in ml of Tea), given the day after some rain. We’re expecting rain again in a day or so. Depending on how much that is, I’ll factor it in to the between drench watering. If it’s big rains, i may just make the next drink a full Growth Drench. Depends how soon it Is, and how much it is.
I suppose this is how the wallaby sees it...
The Autos
They’re both bulking up now. I haven’t touched them training wise for about 10days. I‘ll be interested to see how things finish up.
Sucker Punch
I’d missed some lowers of lowers I think so snipped of a few buds in the total shade or where water would get caught down low. It’s a bit thick!
MiG29
The critter of the week tradition was born because I would have an encounter with every trip to the garden and bush plants. Even tho I’m not out in th bush this year, the encounters still happen. This amputee huntsman spider had taken up residence on the MiG pot! Happy under the shade of the burlap sack and exposed when I removed the sack for a bottom up watering. surprise!
It’s a very furry furry one
... FYI the lip of that tray is a bit over an inch in size.
Topping off my week, 2 great things happened. Prizes came in the post
Thank you 420 and Dope Seeds! I’d forgotten what I ordered, then remembered that I’d been thinking about using autos to audition some of the photos I have to help me decide which ones to run could be flawed, but its a way to have some fun with more seeds than I can grow! Plus - I’ve loved this white widow so much to grow i thought it couldn’t hurt to have more - it will be a great one for sharing some seeds with folks around here when the opportunity comes. Northern Lights too. I have lots of those now
Then, the best thing.
I’ve wanted to do this for really long time and thanks to the generosity of a friend...
It starts next week sometime. Should be awesome. I’ve been using their website for a long time with just a free membership and learnt heaps. I’m really looking forward to it. Change is coming here and people are already asking me about stuff. I’m getting ready.
Thanks for your company my friendly garden companions, lurkers and whoever else may stumble in...
That’s just a little eye candy from the Autos to get us started
This time last season, 3 different strains (2 indicas and a sativa dominant hybrid) were all pushing pistils and lots of them (top, side, e’rywhere). This season, apart from the false start Critical Mass had before it started preflowering all over the place, there are still no pistils in any tops. I’m yet to inspect today.
I’m developing a possibly dubious theory about this but hear me out, let’s see what you think.
FYI, I have no possible light at night issues. It’s the bush, miles away from any town and we have no outdoor lights.
Last season there was a dark moon in mid January, about 3 weeks after the summer solstice. All plants had lots of pistils by the 26th of Jan, about 10 days after that dark moon.
This year, there was a dark moon a few days after the solstice and then not another one until now, (Sunday/Monday coming).
I’m beginning to wonder if, outside, it’s a combination of daylight hours reduction and very dark nights that is needed to trigger flower onset.
It could be nothing like this and I may be way off track. I certainly know that moonlight isn’t enough to interfere with flowering once its happening. I’m just wondering about the triggering of flower-start because I’m wracking my brains as to why things this year would be so much later like this...
... It’s something to make a note of here in any case - so I am - for the purposes of observation over the coming years.Perhaps not incidentally, my gardening partner noted that everything seems to be happening late this year, including fruiting of things like beans and cucumber. I hope that means the cool humid weather that usually comes in April is delayed as well
SO! On with the show!
White Widow continues to impress. Some of the lowers and side shoots have turned into full blown branches with a growth explosion over the last week.
That got a big tidy up pruning today.
The raised bed - lookback
I like to do this a bit as it helps me better see what changes are happening. This is 2 weeks ago on Jan 18.And then yesterday...
This is all pre prune btw. I hope preflower is different to flowering stretch with regard to pruning because I just took a lot of tiny shoots down low on all the branches off.
No matter really - it has way more tops than I expected so will get plenty for my needs in any case.Critical Mass
I dont have after pruning shots. I didn’t want the distraction of documenting. It was wonderful to just sit quietly looking at all their parts and taking off little bits here n there as they caught my attention.
Candida CD1
Still has the dropsy sometimes - not in these photos tho. I think I’ve noticed that its either a heat thing or a light intensity thing. The harsh Australian sun is fiercer than that Canadian sun where this was bred. I’m pretty sure some of the genetic work was done outdoors, maybe all. There is certainly lots of outdoor pics on their site. Or, it’s any bright light when its hot. This one stands to attention when there is cloud cover so her best days are those not too hot ones where there is a very light covering of cloud - so still plenty of light but not searing. Yesterday was like that - these shots are then.
This one is after standing tall all night - without leanback.
Then after being leant back for the day.
And from above (after leaning back)
The day before all these pics, everyone got a big hearty Transplant Drench at 1.5ml per soil gal (and 10% of what ever that amount was in ml of Tea), given the day after some rain. We’re expecting rain again in a day or so. Depending on how much that is, I’ll factor it in to the between drench watering. If it’s big rains, i may just make the next drink a full Growth Drench. Depends how soon it Is, and how much it is.
I suppose this is how the wallaby sees it...
The Autos
They’re both bulking up now. I haven’t touched them training wise for about 10days. I‘ll be interested to see how things finish up.
Sucker Punch
I’d missed some lowers of lowers I think so snipped of a few buds in the total shade or where water would get caught down low. It’s a bit thick!
MiG29
The critter of the week tradition was born because I would have an encounter with every trip to the garden and bush plants. Even tho I’m not out in th bush this year, the encounters still happen. This amputee huntsman spider had taken up residence on the MiG pot! Happy under the shade of the burlap sack and exposed when I removed the sack for a bottom up watering.
surprise!It’s a very furry furry one
... FYI the lip of that tray is a bit over an inch in size.Topping off my week, 2 great things happened. Prizes came in the post
Thank you 420 and Dope Seeds! I’d forgotten what I ordered, then remembered that I’d been thinking about using autos to audition some of the photos I have to help me decide which ones to run could be flawed, but its a way to have some fun with more seeds than I can grow! Plus - I’ve loved this white widow so much to grow i thought it couldn’t hurt to have more - it will be a great one for sharing some seeds with folks around here when the opportunity comes. Northern Lights too. I have lots of those now Then, the best thing.
I’ve wanted to do this for really long time and thanks to the generosity of a friend...
It starts next week sometime. Should be awesome. I’ve been using their website for a long time with just a free membership and learnt heaps. I’m really looking forward to it. Change is coming here and people are already asking me about stuff. I’m getting ready.
Thanks for your company my friendly garden companions, lurkers and whoever else may stumble in...
dynamo1
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That's so cool Amy, I'm stoked for you. 
Highya AmyG,
I had the same phenomenon last growing season outdoors. I was so disappointed because I thought all the buds would be way too late to finish. It was later than usual, but the buds did finish pretty much. I'm pleased with the quality and quantity last summer. I dwelled on it for awhile, but didn't make any sense, so I dismissed it.
I love your approach of looking, thinking, clip a little here, smoke a little there, making it a zen experience. Sounds so nice. I don't take the time to relax and slow down. Just never think to, but I will next year.
Your ladies are looking very nice. I do hope they finish on the stalk, and provide you with a fitting medicine for you. Cheers.
P.S. About removing branches, etc. - I don't remove too many before I top the main for the side branches, and on a sativa, I'll take the apical meristem from some of the upper branches to promote bushier plants, then, stake the branches later on to allow more light into the inner areas. I guess, basically, I decide on what shape she'll be before removing too many nodal branches.
I had the same phenomenon last growing season outdoors. I was so disappointed because I thought all the buds would be way too late to finish. It was later than usual, but the buds did finish pretty much. I'm pleased with the quality and quantity last summer. I dwelled on it for awhile, but didn't make any sense, so I dismissed it.
I love your approach of looking, thinking, clip a little here, smoke a little there, making it a zen experience. Sounds so nice. I don't take the time to relax and slow down. Just never think to, but I will next year.
Your ladies are looking very nice. I do hope they finish on the stalk, and provide you with a fitting medicine for you. Cheers.
P.S. About removing branches, etc. - I don't remove too many before I top the main for the side branches, and on a sativa, I'll take the apical meristem from some of the upper branches to promote bushier plants, then, stake the branches later on to allow more light into the inner areas. I guess, basically, I decide on what shape she'll be before removing too many nodal branches.
I would love to have a Candida that looked like that. Mine are all sad after the transplant 
. Eden looks terrific though I don't have a clue about the effect of moonlight on the plants (only that it becomes you, it goes with your hair).
Congrats on the new beans and a special congrats on the GF cert program.
. Eden looks terrific though I don't have a clue about the effect of moonlight on the plants (only that it becomes you, it goes with your hair).Congrats on the new beans and a special congrats on the GF cert program.
Heavenly Hybrid
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Amy, I’m loving the white widow! They’re all just lovely, but that WW is especially pretty. I totally agree with Bode, your love and appreciation for nature is a wonderful reminder to stop and just take it in. I forget too often. When I remember to do it, it’s so wonderful. Thanks for the reminder
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I’m loving that one as well Heavenly! It’s been an absolute delight to grow - just looking happy as a clam the whole time (is that because clams really are happy... or because they just look happy to us?).
Of all the silver linings of my life, the daily quiet proximity to a forest full of biological activity of all kinds has to be the most appreciated, every day. Even when I cant go out into it, I can hear it and smell it so I’m very aware of it all the time.
AN update on the 4 piece grinder I bought myself for Christmas - I have been really enjoying the keif collecting It’s not quite hash, but it’s pretty darn close. I had some fun today capturing it in macro. Not totally clean but cleaner than some that I’ve seen. So pretty...
Blue Dream Space Case keif
And... thanks yet again to the very good people here at
and the sponsorship of Vapour Bros, I have the most excellent tool to toke it with.
Super tasty and an excellent clean hashy thickmouth kind of high
I’m inspired to start a slow project of making 2-3 small size screens of the appropriate micron size. I’m sure I could design something that would sit easily on my bed, for hashmaking in comfort and ease. I’ve been watching lots of dry sift hash making videos and I think a very small version of some of those screening setups would work really well for me. I have plenty of time now that I have the keif to keep me a bit happy in the meantime while I plan and source the materials - or even look into getting them made at the local art supplies place. It’d be nice to have something ready by the time I have some Bubba Hash ready wouldn’t it! That’ll be about October... I’ve got time ... oooh i’m lovelyly high
Its a happy one!
).Of all the silver linings of my life, the daily quiet proximity to a forest full of biological activity of all kinds has to be the most appreciated, every day. Even when I cant go out into it, I can hear it and smell it so I’m very aware of it all the time.
AN update on the 4 piece grinder I bought myself for Christmas - I have been really enjoying the keif collecting
It’s not quite hash, but it’s pretty darn close. I had some fun today capturing it in macro. Not totally clean but cleaner than some that I’ve seen. So pretty...Blue Dream Space Case keif
And... thanks yet again to the very good people here at
and the sponsorship of Vapour Bros, I have the most excellent tool to toke it with.Super tasty and an excellent clean hashy thickmouth kind of high
I’m inspired to start a slow project of making 2-3 small size screens of the appropriate micron size. I’m sure I could design something that would sit easily on my bed, for hashmaking in comfort and ease. I’ve been watching lots of dry sift hash making videos and I think a very small version of some of those screening setups would work really well for me. I have plenty of time now that I have the keif to keep me a bit happy in the meantime while I plan and source the materials - or even look into getting them made at the local art supplies place. It’d be nice to have something ready by the time I have some Bubba Hash ready wouldn’t it! That’ll be about October... I’ve got time ... oooh i’m lovelyly high
Its a happy one!
Beautiful update Amy. I love how healthy they all look, nice green petioles everywhere. 
Liquidintel
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Your plants are looking so nice! White widow is beautiful! That spider though!
Your garden is looking lovely, Amy! 
I'm getting a bit antsy here in the northern hemisphere -- can't wait to start my outdoor grow, but am living vicariously through you and your garden.
I'm getting a bit antsy here in the northern hemisphere -- can't wait to start my outdoor grow, but am living vicariously through you and your garden.
Really cool macros, and if you're gonna do a crafts project, we're gonna need pics!
Derbybud
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Garden is really looking good Amy. Nice score on the beans and pipe.
I'm sure your going to get great things out of getting that certificate. Just remember us little people. Lol
I'm sure your going to get great things out of getting that certificate. Just remember us little people. Lol