Alex's - SCROG - 620 Watt CFL's - Actual Wattage - Super Lemon Haze

Ok, Ive literally spent the last 3 hours straight researching/watching/more researching autos. Im no expert by any means, but here are my .02$.
My conclusions that are relavent to this disscusion are as follow:
1) any stress--- ANY STRESS, reduces yields dramatically. Even transplanting. Which Im about to do. Details of why in my journal :)
2) clones from autos are no good. Autos have a FINITE life span. Period. No re-vegging possible. A clone from an auto is gonna yiels as muh as a side branch from the mother. No more. It does not produce a new auto flower plant.
3) Start them FROM SEED in large pots. Autos have extrememly large taproots and the second they hit something, growth is stunted.
4) 18-6 from start to finish with autos. Light manipulation ONLY effects size. It does not affect flowering time at all.
5) Correct use of CFL's vs HPS side by side showed no significant difference in yield. Even in combinations of cfl/hps, straight cfl, or straigh hps. No significant yield difference as long as placement was efficent.

One of the guys research I check had 4 grow rooms, 8 strains, and 4 samples of each strain. ( I messed this up because he ended up with 48 plants. :hmmmm:) Not a huge sample size, but enough to see results I think. AVG YIELD under correct conditions were 4 ozs!!!!! His biggest yielder was 6.75 oz's. From an auto. In 64 days from seed. WOW.




then you got john705 who has 5 1/2 foot autos growing outside and swears by 12/12 light schedule.
Personally, I have rethought my entire grow based on the information I learned today. I dont expect anyone to change there mind about autos based on what Ive researched. Its not like I got to go into this guys grow room :rofl: Im just throughing out another angle o these auto girls. It will probably be ten years before enough serious growers mess around with them to get all the quirks worked out.

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Hi guys, sorry for the delayed response. Feeling a bit under the weather. Fishcake, Alex, Max, and Invi, Thank you for all the great input and feedback. a 400W cooltube HPS does sound like a fantastic idea Alex I found a Dimmable 400w hps/mh on amazon for $140 that looks promising. Max LED's also sound like a great idea, I would love to give them a go one day as I feel LED's are the future of growing. I don't believe technology is quite there yet and their price is still quite inflated. not to be negative but I do agree with the other guys about purchasing LED's from China, very skeptical. The best LED i have found to date is the Solar Storm 400w, heres a link :) California Light Works Solar Storm 400W LED Grow Light I'm sure your grow is gonna be great with the LED's you plan on purchasing max, I'll pop in to see how things are going, once you get started.

Interesting you guys are bringing up Autoflowers, I have a freebie from world of seeds northern lights X big bud autofem. Been debating growing it out on my next grow
 
Crimson... that does sound a good deal very good in fact 140 for cool tube n ballast n bulb :)
If be tempted to pop ur free be auto in a big pot and sit in the corner of the back yard. Here of crazy results from outdoor autos
 
I also cant believe you didnt know of my second exploits!! I just posted my reason for some changes on my grow...

BTW +reps becasue you were with my first from the start sir. You guys are the reason I got a jar+ of meds waiting on me... matter of fact... Ill be right back :) :bong:
 
spimp it is a tempting deal indeed, leaning towards a ipower 600w dimmable hps/mh cooltube combo for $163 with lifetime warranty (still looking into the warranty) lol I figured if I ever need more lumens I'd just crank that puppy to full power and not have to buy a second hps later, for now I'd run it at 50%.

I just saw the info you posted on auto flowers awesome find. All excellent points. to elaborate a bit further on cloning autofems. a true auto can not be cloned for future grows. If the original plant is 40 days into growth then a clone taken, the clone is on day 40 as well. gonna swing over to your journal for the full read.

Would be great to run the auto right behind ya or side by side. No space for that atm though
 
Here is an auto that will make you "think different" about what an auto can yield with leds and hydro.
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watch till the end i dont want to spoil the total of harvest just yet but its fucking BEAST!
 
I dont see how people dont trust stuff from china i bet more than 95% of the electronics in our house holds are made/manufactured in china, or have had some influence from china so meh id rather go to the source of production and not get ripped off just cuz some company slaps their branding on it. But we shall see what the out come is from the thread etc. im getting quite excited about it.
 
Hi maxi, you just blew my freakin mind with that video lol. Don't get me wrong I've read some amazing journals with LED's, I'm not talking ill about them one bit :) as for China, they do have some quality products made there as well. I've just read a lot of negative reviews from LED companies based in china that manufacture and sell them, Be careful is all. Would love to read your journal and how the LED's are working out for ya
 
Now thats what Im talking about Maxx! i wont spoil it but DDAAAAMMMNNN!!
Btw, I just transferred my auto and it has 2x as many roots showing in less than a month as my photo girls did after 3!! Seems my big pot theory was at least based on rational thinking... which is rare for me!! :)

BTW my research showed DWC was #1 for yield, than bag soil, than hydro, than super soil. Interesting...
 
Hope I got some of you thinking different. Haha. Shimp you're entertaining. As for hydro I checked on eBay and found some for like 34 euro 15l with pump air stone top pot with gaps or whatever where you put it with the pebbles. Pretty dope deals. Thinking of ordering blue planet nutes ppl on 420 seem to swear by them.
 
now thats why i'm trying to learn hydro...i can do that...did with LEDs...can you picture growing one of those outside...wht up Alex...man...talk about reveg..everything i got is reveg...i just took 6 rooted clones out of my cloner..2 days later..all 6 clones got buds...you figgue...but yeah ..nothing to revegging..what DP said was right on point...the only problem that can develope is all the leaves..serious light blockage..and knowing how to LST helps a lot..branches will be growing crossing paths...tie em down...be the boss...
 
Hey max I'm working but il have a look over that video after work.. I agree that lots of household items are made in china. Difference is I don't buy them from china. I buy the from an electronics store. That has done all the donkey work to manufacture it in china and bring it to the shelves of our supermarkets and stores. It takes all the risk out of it max. I don't mind Chinese products at all. I do mind paying for them and having them delivered to my home from china. I'd worry it wouldn't arrive. Then were would I be. Out of pocket. Out of product. And without a leg to stand on. I just don't like long distance trading with ppl iv never heard of or don't no. But if there legit then great I hope everyone does well out of the place :) I value my money to much to take a risk


Miwa thanks for coming by from fishys big pond
I'm hoping to re Scrog my re veg girl. She will be harvested in a week roughly, hope it goes as smoothly as u say :)
 
You may no that I dont take sides < however in this case I can honestly say the autos I had grown before 12/12 is fine , I only really had trouble when I changed things like food an water Auto Fem Diesel is a real good grower, but I thought I would try some different food an it was sick for a while she had great nuggets an her yeild was just over the oz:goodluck::cheesygrinsmiley:
alex801 said:
No RICO iv clearly miss worded things again and made myself look an idiot lol
I ment if I was thinking of autos I'd not go for autos but go for a general strain of choice
Give it no veg time at all just go 12/12 from seed
The plants usually will show pistils buy 16-18 days
This is how I went on my only ever attemp at sog

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Good Weed Alex:)
 
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