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Yes, I agree. Problem is my meter has a floating calibration depending on what calibration solution I use. I really need to call them and get this explained to me a little bit better.
Alaskan1's Flo n Gro Mixed Bag Grow
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Yes, I agree. Problem is my meter has a floating calibration depending on what calibration solution I use. I really need to call them and get this explained to me a little bit better.
Yeah, I usually now, just state the measured EC and be done with it. Unless I am asked for the PPM, I don't even give it to alleviate confusion like you are experiencing now. BTW, I have asked Corey at BPN about the EC of my nutes, he says, "Crazy Growth should be around 1.8 or 1.9" and for Monster Bloom, "about 2.0 EC and use visual inspection to see if the plants are getting too much food"
So you see here that VISUAL plant queues are much more important than trying to adhere to a PPM or EC baseline. As I said before, "Mix per directions, watch your plants, and look at EC/PPM after checking pH if there seems to be a problem."
So you see here that VISUAL plant queues are much more important than trying to adhere to a PPM or EC baseline. As I said before, "Mix per directions, watch your plants, and look at EC/PPM after checking pH if there seems to be a problem."
SpaceGhost
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Dugh I guess I should have been able to figure this out. Went to AN web site and the peek recommended EC is 1.62ec is where I'm should be at. Currently 2.1 and the conversion works out to be the 700 to get the 1140ppm that they recommend. Guess I've been over nuting the hole time.
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I start my plants at 1/4 nutes the first time. At second res change I go to 1/2 suggested nutes for two weeks. 4th week I go 3/4 nutes. AT the end of one month I flip to flower and give them 3/4 nutes for the week. Second weel of flower I put them at full strength from that point forward. It seems to be working well for me.
scientist or growers?
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SpaceGhost
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I actually spoke to them about this very issue. For the unknowing it could cause burn on the girls. They said it will be changed to reflect the information correctly.
I fortunately saw it looked funny, but that was after I had a small understanding of ec and noticed the ec #'s and the ppm #'s and knew they didn't jive with .5 conversion.
SpaceGhost
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Ya know I thought I had it all figured out until I broke out the calibration solution that is set at 1382 and I get a 1330 reading at 500 and 1850 at 700 the cal solution doesn't have a EC number on it but my meter reads 2.6 My meter can't show # into the .00 hundreds
Bassman59: Does my meter need recalibrating none of this is making sense any more
You can probably take the DR or Practitioner off my name and just leave it at Intern
SpaceGhost
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Now I think I confused myself even more.
I got the book out to the blue labs ppm pen and calibrated the pen like the book said at 500. This is the way I was working before staying with the 500. I will just look to put my numbers were AN wants them. This is the way I was doing it.
To much thought into it.
need 2 take a break
I got the book out to the blue labs ppm pen and calibrated the pen like the book said at 500. This is the way I was working before staying with the 500. I will just look to put my numbers were AN wants them. This is the way I was doing it.
To much thought into it.
need 2 take a break
Just switch your meter to EC, and be done with it, lol! AN has the EC posted on all their calculators.Now I think I confused myself even more.
I got the book out to the blue labs ppm pen and calibrated the pen like the book said at 500. This is the way I was working before staying with the 500. I will just look to put my numbers were AN wants them. This is the way I was doing it.
To much thought into it.
Boy this conversation is familiar! I use an Oakton, which is .7 conversion. I agree EC is only universal measure. I'm slowly adjusting my thinking that way.
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So, I was having an issue with my flow n gro. I called in to their number and left a message. About 15 minutes later I got a call from a guy named Marty. After speaking with him a bit I find out this guy was one of the designers of the flo n gro system. He also does alot of his own R&D on a lot of different things within the company.
He doesn't like the things he builds to have issues to HE called! The pump inside the controller kept coming loose and falling off. It's attached to the back of the controller bucket by suction cups. When it does come loose it looses it's prime. This always happens in flood mode. He kinda was scratching his head and said he had never heard of that happening before. So he starts asking me a ton of questions. We figure out finally that I have the pump under the drain for the res. The water comes out pretty powerful he said and is probably knocking my pump off and causing the issue. Nicest damn guy you will ever talk to. Very helpful!! But, it gets better!
Now that we figured this out he starts asking me questions about my grow! Tells me my watering schedule is all wrong and begins to explain why. Appaently, the plants should not be watered at all during the dark period! He said that plants (in their studies) after being starved during the dark period will drink twice as much water and nutes when the plants are watered when the lights first come on and they get flooded. He said after time they plants will learn that they are being denied so they learn to soak up everything they can when they get the chance. He said to water once when lights come on, another flood like 3 hours later and then again at another 3 hours. Making sure not to water after 2 hours before lights go out. He said in his studies they have found that the plants end up at some point with PM or mold. He said the half hour flood I'm doing is right with the amount of plants I have. He said any more then that and if the plants get big I will have to be adding new water to the system all the time.
He also stated that the buckets should not be staggered. Why? Even watering! He said that the plants should be getting even watering and have found that in larger grows such as mine it becomes an issue. Not so much with a few plants.
He asked what nutes I was using and I said Technoflora. He said they were a good company out of BC and have been at it for 13 years. Said they have a really great product and Jason is a really great guy that will help anytime. He said he has heard of Blue Planet. He also said that they cannot grow a certain plant (un named) but, they do grow a type pf pepper that closely resembles the growing charcteristics of the un named plant lol They do a lot of side by side testing of their system versus others and testing of their units with side by side nute tests.
He talked to me about some upcoming products coming out and some they have in R&D right now. They are testing a 100 bucket flo n gro!! Too much for me! They also just came out with a new C02 box Called the "Atlas 1" and is half the price of their old C02 box. Priced at 299. He is also amazed that the other ebb n flo companies have not picked up on the 360 hole inner baskets. He said the plant in ALL testing does so much better with that style inner basket.
Believe it or not he goes to a lot of different websites. Never says anything just observes. He said he has seen some pretty interesting ways of setting his system up he never dreamed of lol
I cannot say enough good things about this company. Super helpful, super nice and I will be heading down there in a few weeks! Everything thing they use in their products are 100% usa made, even the computer boards! (those come from Portland)
He doesn't like the things he builds to have issues to HE called! The pump inside the controller kept coming loose and falling off. It's attached to the back of the controller bucket by suction cups. When it does come loose it looses it's prime. This always happens in flood mode. He kinda was scratching his head and said he had never heard of that happening before. So he starts asking me a ton of questions. We figure out finally that I have the pump under the drain for the res. The water comes out pretty powerful he said and is probably knocking my pump off and causing the issue. Nicest damn guy you will ever talk to. Very helpful!! But, it gets better!
Now that we figured this out he starts asking me questions about my grow! Tells me my watering schedule is all wrong and begins to explain why. Appaently, the plants should not be watered at all during the dark period! He said that plants (in their studies) after being starved during the dark period will drink twice as much water and nutes when the plants are watered when the lights first come on and they get flooded. He said after time they plants will learn that they are being denied so they learn to soak up everything they can when they get the chance. He said to water once when lights come on, another flood like 3 hours later and then again at another 3 hours. Making sure not to water after 2 hours before lights go out. He said in his studies they have found that the plants end up at some point with PM or mold. He said the half hour flood I'm doing is right with the amount of plants I have. He said any more then that and if the plants get big I will have to be adding new water to the system all the time.
He also stated that the buckets should not be staggered. Why? Even watering! He said that the plants should be getting even watering and have found that in larger grows such as mine it becomes an issue. Not so much with a few plants.
He asked what nutes I was using and I said Technoflora. He said they were a good company out of BC and have been at it for 13 years. Said they have a really great product and Jason is a really great guy that will help anytime. He said he has heard of Blue Planet. He also said that they cannot grow a certain plant (un named) but, they do grow a type pf pepper that closely resembles the growing charcteristics of the un named plant lol They do a lot of side by side testing of their system versus others and testing of their units with side by side nute tests.
He talked to me about some upcoming products coming out and some they have in R&D right now. They are testing a 100 bucket flo n gro!! Too much for me! They also just came out with a new C02 box Called the "Atlas 1" and is half the price of their old C02 box. Priced at 299. He is also amazed that the other ebb n flo companies have not picked up on the 360 hole inner baskets. He said the plant in ALL testing does so much better with that style inner basket.
Believe it or not he goes to a lot of different websites. Never says anything just observes. He said he has seen some pretty interesting ways of setting his system up he never dreamed of lol
I cannot say enough good things about this company. Super helpful, super nice and I will be heading down there in a few weeks! Everything thing they use in their products are 100% usa made, even the computer boards! (those come from Portland)
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Boy this conversation is familiar! I use an Oakton, which is .7 conversion. I agree EC is only universal measure. I'm slowly adjusting my thinking that way.
Yeah, I found that chart as well but from what I am reading off Hannas website I'm not sure WHAT my meter reads. .5 or .7 I know it stated that it depended on what solution I calibrate it with but that doesn't make any sense at all. I'm calling the company on Monday to get this all straightened out.
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not so sure how the PH got so hight but it was at 6.4. Adjusted to 5.6 and PPMs were at 1400 and looks like the drank about an inch of water from the 55 gal barrel.
I happened to look down while I was doing nutes and saw that the timer for the flood and drain had been changed! I don't know who the hell would do that or how long it has been that way. It really is a set and forget. there were some added flood times one as long as an hour and a half. No wonder they look a little droopy they have been getting overwatered!!!!!!! I was cussin up a storm. I put the protective cover back on I had left off. UGHHHHHHHHHH
I happened to look down while I was doing nutes and saw that the timer for the flood and drain had been changed! I don't know who the hell would do that or how long it has been that way. It really is a set and forget. there were some added flood times one as long as an hour and a half. No wonder they look a little droopy they have been getting overwatered!!!!!!! I was cussin up a storm. I put the protective cover back on I had left off. UGHHHHHHHHHH
Just grow in soil you guys! Sorry...just couldn't resist! New fangled things anyway. Forgive me. 
SmokzAlot
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Oh man, who be messin wit my stuff.. I hate that.. heads will roll
Seriously.. why all the fuss?
Growing isn't that complicated why make it so?
I just don't get it...
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Oh man, who be messin wit my stuff.. I hate that.. heads will roll
Seriously.. why all the fuss?
Growing isn't that complicated why make it so?
I just don't get it...
Why am I making it complicated?
lol sorry dont mean to laugh but looking at your avatar with that comment is just funny......................
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Good point !!!! My ACME hydro system is giving me issues!
You my friend get reps for that one lol