Alaskan1's Flo n Gro Mixed Bag Grow

Alrighty then, one issue resolved and another one pops up. I know I have talked to Xlr8 and OG13 about this but I need some feedback. My 55 gallon res has crap floating through it. I'm sure it's from a few different sources, 55 gallon res not being cleaned COMPLETELY, crap from the buckets when they get turned and replaced back in the system. ect ect. I am now thinking of putting some type of inline filter in my lines. I know I said I would be the test pilot on this but NOW I am really thinking of doing just that.
Now, I have also noticed it's almost like, I dunno what attaching itself to my pump lines and electric cord in the 55 gallon res. Any ideas what THAT might be?? Please feel free to chime in one and all IF you have any ideas.
 
Ok, need to give a shout out and reps to Jandre for helping me with my nutes issue. My nutes were over 2000 PPM :thedoubletake: suppose to be 1450. I was hoping I didn't have to dump the complete 55 gallon res and start over. He told me to remove 15 gallons and refill.......I SWEAR, came right out to 1450 after deductions for my water PPM.

THANKS JANDRE!!!!!!!!!! :thanks: :theband::rocker::hugs:

heheh, well, you told me where you were and where you needed to be... The noodle works, I guess! Thanks for the rep!
 
Alrighty then, one issue resolved and another one pops up. I know I have talked to Xlr8 and OG13 about this but I need some feedback. My 55 gallon res has crap floating through it. I'm sure it's from a few different sources, 55 gallon res not being cleaned COMPLETELY, crap from the buckets when they get turned and replaced back in the system. ect ect. I am now thinking of putting some type of inline filter in my lines. I know I said I would be the test pilot on this but NOW I am really thinking of doing just that.
Now, I have also noticed it's almost like, I dunno what attaching itself to my pump lines and electric cord in the 55 gallon res. Any ideas what THAT might be?? Please feel free to chime in one and all IF you have any ideas.
You 've got an airstone in there, huh?
 
If you got shit attacking your hoses your water is too warm imho. Whats the temp in that drum? How many buckets of x # of gals is it feeding?
 
you aint making butter outta water AK. Forget churning. Once I get the measurement on what your feeding I'll try to give you the size air pump and suggestions on stones.
 
I'm sure it isnt mandatory with flo n gro for the plants to need airstones. But it will help the water.
 
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Sorry Buddy, totally out of my range of knowledge, but you need to do something about whats floating and attaching it's self to things. Better give Xlr8 a shout. He should know. Might even be a simple cure. :high-five:
 
The pump size you need is less than 1/2 liter air per min per bucket.

A sunleaves sda520 will be more than adequate. Four 4" round CYLINDRICAL stones. Cheap as heck stones, last 6 months+. quiet pump draws like 12w.
 
Just some input on the Airstone debate... the actual BUCKETS do not need airstones... just the res if you're not getting the aeration you need. A little 160 LPM is all you need though, and a bar stone. $20 total. -OR- If you have a smart<->pet or a pet company (Both are inaccurate, but close hints at the name) they have the pump and stone already for like 14 bucks

Oh, and pull that agitation pump... you'll drop like 2-3 degrees in the res, maybe more, cold = m-good; under 68F is best. And that 70 degrees... it's bad....m-kay...

peace
 
Yes, put the 4 airstones I mentioned in the res, not the buckets. I still stand by using the air pump I suggested because of the amount of water in your res, # of buckets, amount of water flow on fill.

imho those pet store bar type air stones are horrible. They easily clog up with the slightest of foreign material, slime up way more than ECOPLUS LARGE ROUND AIR STONE. And they are brittle. I've had 4 break and crumble when pulling the hose off the end to clean.

ECOPLUS LARGE ROUND AIR STONE Goggle it. They are like $3 each.
 
Much respect to those who've chimed in, but you do NOT need an airstone anywhere on this system.

It gets more than enough dissolved oxygen without it. The water is circulated and replaced plenty. They don't need much dissolved oxygen if temps are good, and his are.

Excess D.O. can be bad as it can produce a welcoming environment for bad organisms. There is a limit to how much D.O. plants can benefit from.

I still believe that your gunk is mostly a normal by-product of the nutrients you are using and the plants expiring their waste back into the mix. I doubt there is a problem here. Some gunk is just going to happen. Not being there, I can't say for certain, but this is my opinion.

With all due respect to those weighing in, this is different than DWC which definitely needs airstones. Also, this is just my opinion, but I feel pretty confident in my knowledge sources and my own experience. I get this gunk sometimes, too, but so does almost everyone with this type of system I think. Maybe your gunk is worse than I think, but I was pretty freaked by it at first, too.

I just try to get what I can during each weekly res. change and not worry about the rest until I'm between grows when everything gets a heavy bleach cleaning.

If I'm being honest, some of my hoses I never could get the gunk out of after the last grow, so this grow started with some gunky sludgey stuff already in the hoses (I did run bleach through first, but it's stubborn stuff). From day one of this grow and last, things were really healthy and normal at all stages of both grows. Any and all issues I've had were due to my own faults, not the system. Minor gunk has proven to me so far to be no more than a minor annoyance and byproduct of the process. Not all sludge/residue/gunk is bad or due to problems. Some weeks, I have hardly any, some weeks a little, some weeks it's more. Heavier nutrient solutions seem to produce sludgier byproduct.

This is just my take and opinion, please nobody take this as a slight. I think airstones would be a waste of money and effort - just not necessary here. :)

EDIT - I wanted to note, too, that Mr Smith has also been very clear in his opinion on not needing airstones with this type of system. Not trying to name drop here, but he does know his stuff, and has a lot of experience with this type of system. I trust his opinion above nearly anybody's on this site as it relates to hydroponics, personally, and much of how I do things I've gleaned from his experience. I know this is third hand, but I've heard his opinion on this topic so wanted to share that as well...
 
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