Afgoo - First Time Seed Grow

[Debudman]

Ah! I assumed when you were after a body high that you were talking Indica. I haven't grown Sativa since my high school days back in the 70s, so no real hands-on with flowering them.
Yeah, your not alone there. Next time I will focus on Indica I think.

Back then we didn't know jack about trichomes and such. Heck! Most of the time we cut them down and dried them in the oven before we ever saw a flower bud! LOL!
Haha..Isn't that the truth. We were to worried about helicopters flying over and stuff to worry about checking trichomes...lol. It's like, what the hell is a trichome?

The other half of the time the plant would get ripped off from our yard by pot thieves! None of us knew anything like folks do now about how to grow REAL WEED!
Yes, unfortunately I was one of those victims as well.

The Internet was still 20 years away to boot!
It sounds like we grew up in the same era my friend.


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[Debudman]

Well I ordered one of these today...
Was only 3.50 with free shipping...
I thought it would be better than that 60x/100x radio shack microscope that you can't see crap out of unless you look at a leaf on your kitchen table so it is as still a mouse.
I wanted something I could take out and observe on the plant without cutting anything off.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Now my friend you can use the chairs to enjoy the fruits of our labor.
Then relax, do a few bowls and pat yourself on the back.
Then do a few more bowls And finish off with an
Then the next day do the same thing, but this time twist up a few blunts

but I already have a chair out there!!! thats what I sit in now and and watch them already!!!

you didn't help at all!!!

 

[Debudman]

but I already have a chair out there!!! thats what I sit in now and and watch them already!!!

you didn't help at all!!!

Yes, but now you get to smoke the plants that you harvested.
There is always a great good that comes from smoking your own freshly grown bud my friend

 

[Truth Seeker]

i dont know, i was thinking of not harvesting!!! ............... then my alarm clock went off and it was time to awaken from that nightmare!!! and turn on the lights for the indoors!!! LOL nah i was thinking of gettin a life size poster of them and just setting them out there on the chairs!!! LOL nah but I can't wait til next season again!!! thinking about going in ground!!! if im not moved by then!!!

 

[Debudman]

i dont know, i was thinking of not harvesting!!! ............... then my alarm clock went off and it was time to awaken from that nightmare!!! and turn on the lights for the indoors!!! LOL nah i was thinking of gettin a life size poster of them and just setting them out there on the chairs!!! LOL nah but I can't wait til next season again!!! thinking about going in ground!!! if im not moved by then!!!

No, I hear where you are coming from.
You do build a sense of bonding with your ladies.
When you spend each day (sometimes multiple times) each day caring and nurturing and giving them your all for like 150 days, then you make the cut.
You then return to the site (by habit) sadly realizing....hell, they're not there any more. That would leave you with a hollow space thinking about that.
Ah shit Aston, now you got me all depressed. haha.

 

[Goldengoose7]

Well I ordered one of these today...
Was only 3.50 with free shipping...
I thought it would be better than that 60x/100x radio shack microscope that you can't see crap out of unless you look at a leaf on your kitchen table so it is as still a mouse.
I wanted something I could take out and observe on the plant without cutting anything off.

Good move on the Loupe purchase! You are probably going to want a 10x as well cause a true 30x loupe iis going to be a little hard to work with for the more common "scanning" of the whole plant's trichome development during the mid to late portions of the flowering cycle.

I really like my "BeLOMO Triplet 10x" loupe. This is the real deal optically speaking so you are looking at around $35.00 to $40.00 including S&H. This is a true Jewelers loupe though so you will get crystal clear distortion free magnification and color accuracy, which is what you need when trying to determine trichome degradation at the crucial final days before harvest.

Still far less expensive than a lab grade scope, which in my opinion is the only way to go if you want to add a microscope to your grow tool box!

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[Truth Seeker]

Good move on the Loupe purchase! You are probably going to want a 10x as well cause a true 30x loupe iis going to be a little hard to work with for the more common "scanning" of the whole plant's trichome development during the mid to late portions of the flowering cycle.

I really like my "BeLOMO Triplet 10x" loupe. This is the real deal optically speaking so you are looking at around $35.00 to $40.00 including S&H. This is a true Jewelers loupe though so you will get crystal clear distortion free magnification and color accuracy, which is what you need when trying to determine trichome degradation at the crucial final days before harvest.

Still far less expensive than a lab grade scope, which in my opinion is the only way to go if you want to add a microscope to your grow tool box!

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Whats good GG!!!

Hey I used to have a 30x loupe!!! I thought it was the best thing!!! But I still wanted to see more clearly!!! so now I am going to be getting a 30x with a litttle 60x on it as well!!! I just cant wait to see the trics with those!!!

 

[Truth Seeker]

Ok, so what do I do with the yellowing leaves??? do I leave them on the plant still, most of the yellowing leaves have shrivled up and are barley hanging on, i tugged on 1 to see if it was on solid still, I just wanted to know if I should take them off, or let em fall off naturally!!! I'm trying to keep it clean in there!!!

 

[Goldengoose7]

Whats good GG!!!

Hey I used to have a 30x loupe!!! I thought it was the best thing!!! But I still wanted to see more clearly!!! so now I am going to be getting a 30x with a litttle 60x on it as well!!! I just cant wait to see the trics with those!!!

Yo Astonr!

I find anything over 10x in a loupe is a little too near field to get a good overall view of your bud's trichome coverage and ratios. I rely on my microscope set to 80x for the closeups you have seen me post in my journal. For quick scanning to get a sense of the clear, cloudy, amber ratios, a name brand, top of the line 10x optic like the BeLOMO Triplet I recommended above is the way to go! Do a Google search on that name and check it out! Cost more than those 3-5 dollar Chinese knockoffs, but the optical quality difference is HUGE!

Ok, so what do I do with the yellowing leaves??? do I leave them on the plant still, most of the yellowing leaves have shrivled up and are barley hanging on, i tugged on 1 to see if it was on solid still, I just wanted to know if I should take them off, or let em fall off naturally!!! I'm trying to keep it clean in there!!!

If you can easily get to them, just clip em off with your scissors. You only see them hanging on my flowering plants cause I haven't had time to clip them off, or they are too numerous and/or hard to get to if the plant is in my Bloom Room.

They are certainly not doing your plant any good anymore if they are pure yellow or brown, so getting rid of them will be doing the plant a favor by opening up the canopy for the lower buds that may not be getting enough light with those dead leaves in the way.

In addition to pulling nutrition from those large fan leaves during flower, I have found that the Cannabis plant will often shut down the leaves that are blocking lower buds from your light source! With an indoor flowering situation, that extra light can really make a difference in the trichome coverage of the lower buds!

 

[Debudman]

Hey Aston,

Yeah I agree...wack the yellow leaves man. Not doing you any good.
I will let you guys now how my cheap Chinese Knock Off does in allowing me to view my trichomes on the plant.

 

[Debudman]

Good move on the Loupe purchase! You are probably going to want a 10x as well cause a true 30x loupe iis going to be a little hard to work with for the more common "scanning" of the whole plant's trichome development during the mid to late portions of the flowering cycle.

I really like my "BeLOMO Triplet 10x" loupe. This is the real deal optically speaking so you are looking at around $35.00 to $40.00 including S&H. This is a true Jewelers loupe though so you will get crystal clear distortion free magnification and color accuracy, which is what you need when trying to determine trichome degradation at the crucial final days before harvest.

Still far less expensive than a lab grade scope, which in my opinion is the only way to go if you want to add a microscope to your grow tool box!

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Thanks Double G..

I will keep the 10x loupe in mind.
But I wanted something cheap to work for now.
If I was going to spend the 40 some bucks I would invest in the USB Microscope I think instead of the 10x loupe.

 

[Truth Seeker]

So how fucked am I???

I awoke this morning, sick as a dog, I have not felt well since yesterday, I go to the front door, and I turn off the patio light, and I think to myself, its pretty late in the morning to be this dark still!!! and then I hear it.... drip...drip...drip...drip....... Its raining!!!????!!!??!!?? way to wrap up the summer right??? but thats not the major issue!!! the major issue is that my flowers got wet!!! as soon as I heard the water drops, I whipped open the door and dragged them under shelter!!! now they are sitting in front of my front door!!! I shook a lot of the water off the plant, but I just want to know how screwed do you think i'll be now???



DBM your up north a bit!!! how you takin this rain??? yours are in ground, are you covering the ladies with something?!?!?!?

 

[Debudman]

Hey Aston,

Sorry to hear about your rain situation, that sucks.
I'm wondering if a fan will help displace the moisture quicker.
Shaking each branch as you did would be step one I would think to try
to get rid of any moisture that might of worked its way into the bud.
I know though when drying they say don't blow fans directly on the weed.. Not exactly sure why, but I guess for some reason that can promote mold..

I'm sure they will be fine. My mite problem seems to still be an issue with mine despite my spraying regularly. I am worried about that. If they get any worse I will have to just scrap my plants cause I don't want to smoke spider mites. I haven't seen a lot of web activity, but have seen the eggs under the leaves and if I look at the leaves with magnifying glass and stare at one leaf for a long time I will see tiny movement. Sucks..!!!
At least you have redundancy with your indoor grow.

Let us know how they go man...Goodluck.

 

[Goldengoose7]

Thanks Double G..
If I was going to spend the 40 some bucks I would invest in the USB Microscope I think instead of the 10x loupe.

Apples and Oranges my friend...

My point was a simple one...

Don't waste your money on a cheap microscope when you can get a top of the line loupe for the same price. A quality loupe is far more useful in the field for checking trichome development.

Why?

You can't buy a decent microscope with quality optics for less than about $150.00. More if you want a USB imaging rig like I have. On the other hand, $40.00 will get you the BeLOMO Triplet 10x loupe that I and most professional growers use for spot checking. That little gem is a quality optical tool that you will turn to daily during later stages of flowering. There really is no comparison.

P.S. Don't judge the value of a Jewelers Loupe by the product you recently purchased. I seriously doubt that it will compare to a BeLOMO.

 

[Crookedfinger]

Apples and Oranges my friend...

My point was a simple one...

Don't waste your money on a cheap microscope when you can get a top of the line loupe for the same price. A quality loupe is far more useful in the field for checking trichome development.

Why?

You can't buy a decent microscope with quality optics for less than about $150.00. More if you want a USB imaging rig like I have. On the other hand, $40.00 will get you the BeLOMO Triplet 10x loupe that I and most professional growers use for spot checking. That little gem is a quality optical tool that you will turn to daily during later stages of flowering. There really is no comparison.

P.S. Don't judge the value of a Jewelers Loupe by the product you recently purchased. I seriously doubt that it will compare to a BeLOMO.

What do you think about the BeLOMO 20x For trich development?

 

[Goldengoose7]

What do you think about the BeLOMO 20x For trich development?

Any BeLOMO is a great choice because their optics quality is fantastic!

I prefer the 10x over higher powered loupes cause it is easier to use for quickly scanning trichomes over an entire bud cause it has a wider field of view. A 10x still has a high enough magnification that you can easily determine clear, cloudy and amber trichome ratios with a quick peek. I could even see the purple pigment in my GDP's trichome stalks at 10x!

20x will obviously be double the magnification power, so you will have half the surface area visible at any one time, and any hand shake on your end will be more noticeable. Still plenty useable though! However, I wouldn't recommend anything more powerful than 20x when choosing a loupe for trichome checking.

Hope that helps!

 

[Debudman]

Apples and Oranges my friend...

My point was a simple one...

Don't waste your money on a cheap microscope when you can get a top of the line loupe for the same price. A quality loupe is far more useful in the field for checking trichome development.

Why?

You can't buy a decent microscope with quality optics for less than about $150.00. More if you want a USB imaging rig like I have. On the other hand, $40.00 will get you the BeLOMO Triplet 10x loupe that I and most professional growers use for spot checking. That little gem is a quality optical tool that you will turn to daily during later stages of flowering. There really is no comparison.

P.S. Don't judge the value of a Jewelers Loupe by the product you recently purchased. I seriously doubt that it will compare to a BeLOMO.

Thanks Double G,
I respect your suggestion indeed as you seem to have a backround working with microscopes and such. I always appreciate quality tools, and scopes are no different. Unfortunately though, at this time I am on a serious budget and trying to keep all unnecessary costs down. I am certainly making note of your suggestion though so when I can afford it I will surely checkout the BeLOMO line of loupes. For the quick viewing like you say I think the 10x would be better based on how you describe it. For anything larger I would just use a microscope to get the details.

 

[Debudman]

Is this what you are talking about Double G...
I found this on ebay for 32.00 that includes free shipping.
But with mine, I can drop it and not cry

I was digging around in my junk and I found a 10x bausch & Lomb pen light scope.
The lense is only 1/2 inch in diameter, but I went out and looked at my plant and it did allow me to see the trichomes.. I will compare it to the China Knock Off that I ordered..

This one looks like it would be much easier to view though since the glass is much larger.

 

[Goldengoose7]

Is this what you are talking about Double G...
I found this on ebay for 32.00 that includes free shipping.
But with mine, I can drop it and not cry

I was digging around in my junk and I found a 10x bausch & Lomb pen light scope.
The lense is only 1/2 inch in diameter, but I went out and looked at my plant and it did allow me to see the trichomes.. I will compare it to the China Knock Off that I ordered..

This one looks like it would be much easier to view though since the glass is much larger.

Yep! Thats the one!

The casing is made out of steel with a black powder coated finish, so you can carry it around in your pocket folded up all day long and not worry about anything happening to it. I have dropped mine a few times over the years when it was closed and nothing happened to it or the lens.

This and all loupes of this type are relatively small.

Here are a couple of quickie photos I just snapped of mine to show you the actual size of the optic...

I only mentioned all this because I was trying to save you guys the hassle of buying something inferior that won't do the job and ultimately will end up in a drawer or trash can somewhere. If you "invest" in a quality optic like the Triplet, it will last you a lifetime as long as you don't loose it!

The thing will pay for itself after the very first harvest you have the ability to time perfectly because you had the right tool to judge that narrow harvest window!

If I was forced to choose between this loupe and my scope, I would have to choose the loupe simply because I use it more. The scope is a great tool too and ultimately having both is the ideal situation, but in a pinch, a loupe can get the job done all by itself.


Cheers.