A Base Treatment Regimen For Cancer

[Randoobula]

There's so much conflicting information out there we simply must question everything. I get slapped for that all the time, and I rarely give a damn. I have our study hall to hash these things out without fear of backlash.

I was aware of the scam, and alert members to this all the time. I was not aware, though, of the acidity concern, so thank you for pointing that out. It's through sharing and a reasonable amount of transparency and vulnerability that we advance the base of knowledge.

Your last is a great point! "Transparency and vulnerability". All we really have to offer is ourselves. Most all else is subjective. So much grey area... so little black and white. And in giving of ourselves we risk exposing ourselves to scrutiny and even attacks by those whose need to be right is stronger than their need for truth. The key is to allow that to be their problem and not take it on as our own. Easier said than done. Validation is a human need. When the need of it is too strong, the quest for truth suffers at the hand of the need to be right and thought well of. It's a difficult line to walk even when aware of it.

 

[SweetSue]

Your last is a great point! "Transparency and vulnerability". All we really have to offer is ourselves. Most all else is subjective. So much grey area... so little black and white. And in giving of ourselves we risk exposing ourselves to scrutiny and even attacks by those whose need to be right is stronger than their need for truth. The key is to allow that to be their problem and not take it on as our own. Easier said than done. Validation is a human need. When the need of it is too strong, the quest for truth suffers at the hand of the need to be right and thought well of. It's a difficult line to walk even when aware of it.

I probably have a thread dedicated to it somewhere. if not, blink and one might appear. Lol! Learning to let the ego go is indeed a trick. Living in the shelter of unconditional love for so many years made it easier for me, I suppose.

 

[Randoobula]

I probably have a thread dedicated to it somewhere. if not, blink and one might appear. Lol! Learning to let the ego go is indeed a trick. Living in the shelter of unconditional love for so many years made it easier for me, I suppose.

LOL! Now that's a thread I could get into!

That's awesome. Unconditional love is something very few have experienced and why many feel grounded when in the company of close family... but even within family it's not a given.

We tend to love in order to be loved. Relationships fail because we aren't getting what we need so stop giving what the other needs. We build walls as if people are either for us or against us.

We humans are so brilliant yet we don't seem capable of grasping the simple idea that if we were all selflessly giving, we would all also be receiving. Thing is, giving being its own reward, we'd find that we don't need as much as we think or act like we do!

 

[Duarte]

Me too!

 

[Duarte]

Cajun, I also would love to see some videos.

 

[KingstonRabbi]

I probably have a thread dedicated to it somewhere. if not, blink and one might appear. Lol! Learning to let the ego go is indeed a trick. Living in the shelter of unconditional love for so many years made it easier for me, I suppose.

Sue, check your own signature!
"Living in Joy" fits the bill pretty well. Just about any random page in any of your threads fits the bill.
That said, I'm off to post some Beatles lyrics I've been humming all morning. I could tell you which song, but why not make a game of it and try to guess which one first? See you over there.

 

[CajunCelt]

LOL! Now that's a thread I could get into!

That's awesome. Unconditional love is something very few have experienced and why many feel grounded when in the company of close family... but even within family it's not a given.

We tend to love in order to be loved. Relationships fail because we aren't getting what we need so stop giving what the other needs. We build walls as if people are either for us or against us.

We humans are so brilliant yet we don't seem capable of grasping the simple idea that if we were all selflessly giving, we would all also be receiving. Thing is, giving being its own reward, we'd find that we don't need as much as we think or act like we do!

VERY nicely put. I was talked over the coals like no other by an ex-wife of 25 years that went psycho when I got cancer.
Last I heard, she lives off ppl like a virus. No job. No nothing. She is to steal my Oxycodone to sell when I got out of surgery.

I'm scared out emotions like that now & will NEVER let myself feel again. There's a member on here I really dig & have almost invited to stay with me or vise versa, but I just can't do it.
I know. I know. It's chickenshit. But... I'm not miserable anymore. I thought of suicide 12x a day the last few months we we're together.
NEVER again.
But, I respect y'all SO much for hanging in there.

 

[Dave Groomer]

On that note...
I am advising everyone to cease the consumption of coconut oil & replace it with another such as grape seed or extra virgin olive oil.
Patients using coconut oil/butter are starting to show very negative symptoms due to the saturated fat.
This has been acknowledged by several doctors & other pro's I respect.
Your call.

So my wife says to me last night, "So you're going to have to stop making Coconut oil." Not that she can't read these threads, but she doesn't usually bother unless it is something I point out. So I asked her why? She told me she saw something on TV that showed new studies saying it was bad for your heart. Once again, Cajun seems to be ahead of the curve.

 

[SweetSue]

So my wife says to me last night, "So you're going to have to stop making Coconut oil." Not that she can't read these threads, but she doesn't usually bother unless it is something I point out. So I asked her why? She told me she saw something on TV that showed new studies saying it was bad for your heart. Once again, Cajun seems to be ahead of the curve.

As Cajun himself has pointed out, there are studies to refute every study he has proving a point. Science flip flops all the time. My first thoughts were "at what consumption volumes does it become a problem? In what populations? Under what conditions?"

In the same way you can make statistics prove anything you want to prove you can do the same thing with a study. Witness our current challenges with research on cannabis that skewered the results to show how dangerous it was.

I'm not arguing for keeping coconut oil, per say, just expressing caution about the "latest studies." This definately deserve a closer investigation.

 

[Randoobula]

VERY nicely put. I was talked over the coals like no other by an ex-wife of 25 years that went psycho when I got cancer.
Last I heard, she lives off ppl like a virus. No job. No nothing. She is to steal my Oxycodone to sell when I got out of surgery.

I'm scared out emotions like that now & will NEVER let myself feel again. There's a member on here I really dig & have almost invited to stay with me or vise versa, but I just can't do it.
I know. I know. It's chickenshit. But... I'm not miserable anymore. I thought of suicide 12x a day the last few months we we're together.
NEVER again.
But, I respect y'all SO much for hanging in there.

I feel ya, Cajun. The effects of living with a narcissist, an addict, or someone similarly afflicted can be devastating. This I know from personal experience.

I'm glad to hear you're not miserable anymore. There's some truth in the saying... "what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger". While that certainly can be the case, it can be hindered by our defense mechanisms working to shield us from the pain we've been though, and the idea of putting ourselves in a situation where we could experience it again is met with trepidation.

The apprehension over putting ourselves is a position where we might experience the pain again is understandable. Over time, I came to frame it like this... to carry that fear or apprehension forward is to continue to give that person control over me. I had to own my own responsibility for the dysfunction in the relationship, but the rest of it I needed to let be her problem, not mine. To do so required that I forgive her. It's not so much about forgiving her for how I was treated, but rather having compassion for her because of what underlies that behavior. And it's the same for all of us. She too is a victim of the environments, influences, and experiences that caused or exacerbated her illness. The same was true for me now, as I carry the baggage of the experiences forward.

For me the healing process goes like this:

- recognize and own my own part in the dysfunction and through honest introspection come to understand my own dysfunction doesn't come from who I truly am, but from my reactions to life's challenges and pains.

- applying that to the other person, its then possible to see that how they treated me wasn't intentional but rather their own reaction to life experiences... difference being only a matter of degree.

- if I see and understand my own baggage and can forgive myself for how that damage has manifested in my life in general and my relationships in particular, I can then forgive them

- once a victim mentality forms in us as a mechanism to deal with what isn't understood and to justify our reactions to it, it's difficult to turn off. Here's where it's important to refuse to allow the person control over us any longer. It's their problem and only mine if I allow it to be.

- once on the path to seeing the human condition for what it is and most importantly seeing it in ourselves, we begin to see it everywhere and in everyone. It's quite freeing to be able to look around in a dysfunctional world and not have to judge, look down upon, and resent others.

- free of much of the confusion, frustration, sense of betrayal, etc, I began to build a healthy self-esteem for the first time. It was no longer completely predicated upon how others see me and treat me, because I now knew that the good person I knew myself to be underneath all the deception caused by my egos reactions, was alive and well. When that takes place, one can then move forward with empowerment because we understand that we truly are in control of our own lives... others only have the control we give them. The future is as bright as our vision of our true selves.

So, the key rests in removing focus from the problems of others, what we gave them the power to use over us, and how we are seen by others, and place it in the only place we do have control... ourselves.

You and I CAN have positive relationships in the future. As long as the cycle of dependency upon what we need from others to bolster of self-esteem is broken. We can move forward cautiously aware, but giving freely of the good person we have always know existed within us. When we give selflessly to those we care about, they cannot help but reciprocate. If they don't, we know pretty readily that they need much more than they have the capacity to give, and so there's not much we can do for them without again sacrificing ourselves.

That's a trap I've fallen into... believing that once they knew my heart things would change. They seldom do. We cannot fix anyone and the closer we are to them the less they seem willing or able to receive from us anyway.

Well, again I've rambled on. Sorry for the psych-babble, but it's the way I process and the risk of sharing my truth helps keep me honest and humble. Owning my own imperfection is the exact opposite of what the ego is designed to do and it's liberating. I appreciate greatly your openness in sharing this part of your life with us. Know that it actually creates more respect for you not less.

Thanks! Randy

 

[CajunCelt]

I'll third that... seeing the videos that is. However I DO need to see something.

What in the world is wrong with questioning everything we hear? That's how we learn and grow! That's what makes us truth seekers rather than sheep.

Two comments re your post before this one...

- You began that comment by mentioning that Cajun wasn't specific about the complications with consuming coconut oil, yet in his lengthy response he still neglected to provide those details. I don't get it. My purpose is NOT personal. I deeply regret ever engaging on it and how I handled it. I simply have an inquiring mind and want to know. I looked into it and found only the same old stale arguments. Many of them made by well meaning professionals btw.

- I love olive oil. At least I think I do. I switched away from it because the grocery stores here only carry the brands of EVOO on the list of those that have failed testing and are not truly what they claim to be.

For those unaware, there has been a scam going on for many years. Many of the mills that process the oil are doing so outside the parameters of what constitutes "extra virgin". Some blend their olive oil with other vegetable oils and some process the olives well after 24 hours from harvest, meaning the acidity levels of the processed oil is unacceptably high.

As we know, acidity is the last thing a cancer patient needs, or any of us for that matter. That said, taken is relatively small amounts as is the case with coconut oil used as a carrier, how much harm can come from it? Just thought I'd share that in the event anyone cares and didn't know about it. A great deal if info can be found by simply googling "olive oil scam".

Thanks for all that you do Sue. You are appreciated! After our exchange I read the first dozen pages of this thread for the first time, and I also greatly appreciate Cajuns giving for the benefit of others. That's what it's all about after all.

You're right my friend. Question me, your doc, common cure alls, your med team & everything you read.

I apologize for not treading lighter earlier. You still like a very intelligent person.
Let me know if I can help.

 

[CajunCelt]

So my wife says to me last night, "So you're going to have to stop making Coconut oil." Not that she can't read these threads, but she doesn't usually bother unless it is something I point out. So I asked her why? She told me she saw something on TV that showed new studies saying it was bad for your heart. Once again, Cajun seems to be ahead of the curve.

Lol. Just saw this you goof.
The issues that have been brought to my attention we're not really about the cardio system ironically.

There have been 2 very close calls with the kidneys.
The liver had a problem but only for patients with a gall bladder (?). Bile thing maybe?

Anyway, I haven't been given those wonderful medical issues are ALL about.
It was good enough for me when they stated/advised to switch to grapeseed oil, non-GMO extra virgin olive oil & others.

Most of you know coconut oil (& butter for supps) have been a HUGE part of my regimen. I'm very accustomed to revisions.
Flaxseed oil was another biggy.

But, I will be 100% inline with non-coconut solutions by next Friday I'm assured.
I'll post to anyone interested here of I can.

 

[SweetSue]

Lol. Just saw this you goof.
The issues that have been brought to my attention we're not really about the cardio system ironically.

There have been 2 very close calls with the kidneys.
The liver had a problem but only for patients with a gall bladder (?). Bile thing maybe?

Anyway, I haven't been given those wonderful medical issues are ALL about.
It was good enough for me when they stated/advised to switch to grapeseed oil, non-GMO extra virgin olive oil & others.

Most of you know coconut oil (& butter for supps) have been a HUGE part of my regimen. I'm very accustomed to revisions.
Flaxseed oil was another biggy.

But, I will be 100% inline with non-coconut solutions by next Friday I'm assured.
I'll post to anyone interested here of I can.

I'll speak for the rest of us and say that there's not a soul among us that wouldn't be interested in anything you have to share mon ami.

 

[Howieman]

You're here because you or someone you love has been diagnosed with cancer and you're hoping Concentrated Cannabis Oil is your "magic bullet." No one here is going to tell you that we're going to cure you of cancer. That possibility lies squarely in your own hands and under your control. We can tell you that CCO kills cancer cells. We know that by the standard of being cancer-free for five years or longer, the numbers of survivors using CCO is growing exponentially. We won't call it a "magic bullet", but we will say that Concentrated Cannabis Oil is a powerful medicine for treating cancer.

We know that your body is wonderfully equipped with its own Endocannabinoid system, evolved to create an atmosphere of homeostasis where cancer is a non-issue. We know that when you're sick or stressed, often your body can't produce enough natural cannabinoids to convince tumor cells to let themselves die for the good of the community, and that's where Concentrated Cannabis Oil comes into play. The cannabinoids you introduce will perfectly mirror the action of the ones your stressed body can't produce fast enough. Now you potentially have enough cannabinoids to attach to the extra receptors on the tumor cells. It's a numbers game, like much else in life. Thankfully we have a way to get those numbers back on your side.

You notice I said "potentially". You can dump all the cannabinoids you want into your system, but if you don't bother to make sure your body can get easy access to them you're pretty much spitting into the wind, wasting valuable resources, energy and emotion. "Bioavailability". Our word for the day. If you're going to invest all this time and energy into the attempt, give your body the best opportunity to make use of the medication.

The two chief considerations we'll be touching on as we go forward are:

1) Taking your proper doses more frequently maintains a more even level of cannabinoids working on your behalf.

2) Creating a state of "Competitive Inhibition" - med speak for "keeping the enzymes in the liver busy so they don't notice the hoard of cannabinoids sliding by them seeking out cancer cells" - will greatly increase your body's chances of utilizing this medication.

We'll also be exploring and explaining the latest exciting findings in the field of oncology by those actively researching CCO and its use as an aggressive medication in cancer treatment, and doing our very best to help you connect to organizations that can be more active in the real world, beyond this digital field that limits us. You're going to benefit from the physical presence of those caring souls with boots on the ground that can now be found within most communities.

Cajun has laid out the regimen he and others are following as they work to bring their own bodies back into homeostasis. You'll notice it's much more than simply using oil. Healing is an all-inclusive adventure. He doesn't mention it, but laughter is an equally important component. Make sure you get your daily dose. Hugs where you can grab them. They're a healing force all their own.

We know it's scary. Don't be afraid to ask anything. Knowledge is power. If we don't have your answer, we'll move heaven and earth to find someone who can speak with authority. It's what we're here for.

Alright. Let's get to work.

*****​

This method is not meant to replace anyone's current successful protocol.

Dietary Considerations: Follow the alkaline diet guidelines. This makes a hostile environment in the body helping prevent illness and disease. Organic everything if at all possible.

Activate Cannaboid Receptors: Include demethylating agents such as green tea. These protect the CB1 receptors from shutdown due to methylation. Phenols, Phenylpropanoids and essential oils can clean cell receptors. Grapefruit juice cleans and clears the cannabinoid receptors. Mangos will be used for pre-dosing to avoid the"Grapefruit Affect" since I have heart medications that will have interactions with grapefruit.

Competitive Inhibition Considerations: Ingest apigenin and amentoflavone supplements 30—40 minutes before dosing to provide the liver enzyzmes "busy work" so the cannabinoids are metabolized away slower. Do not ingest coconut oil or other fats 30—40 minutes before dosing so the medicine can target the liver.

Carrier Oil Considerations: Since I am targeting the liver via anal ingestion of a portion of the doses I will be using coconut oil. Coconut Oil is a Medium Chained Fatty Acid. MCFAs are absorbed directly from the intestines into the portal vein and sent straight to the liver.

Producing the Cannabis Oils: Make cannabis oils accordlingly. Since I am targeting my liver my carrier oil of choice will be coconut oil.

Dosing Considerations: The object is to ingest a minimum of 1g of cannabis oil on a daily basis. If you're not accustomed to THC in the system, start with a very low dose of 25 mg 3 times a day. I will double the dosage to 50 mg after 5 maybe 6 days. I will try to double the dosage to100 mg 4 times a day in 4 to 5 days. From that time forward I hope to double the dosage every 4 days until I have reached a daily dosage that is at least 1 g of cannabis oils.

Dosage Administration: When the dosages reach 100 mg/dose, the dosages will be administered as 25% oral and 75% anal which will be deeply inserted to the rectum as to hit the hepatic portal vein to quickly move the oils to the liver.

Pre-Dosage Preparation: 30—40minutes before dosage:
80 mg Apinenin
200mg Amentoflavone(Ginko Baloba,Amentomax)
1 Mango cup

I have achieved my treatment goal within 2 months with this protocol.

I am glad your cancer is under control. Your medical advice however is bs.

Marijuana is excellent as part of the holistic treatment of nausea and mental anguish, but it has ZERO impact on the growth and spread of the cancer cells and the replication of cancer cells.

I encourage all patients to be treated by a competent licensed medical oncologist.- period and FULL STOP. Using checkpoint inhibitors in combination w other therapies, scientists are rapidly getting a handle on solid tumors, and medical cures are on the horizon. Hormonal cancers are also being successfully treated w anti-hormonal agents.

NO serious Researchers, not a single one, are recommending pot as a treatment. Go to the ASCO site American Society of Clinical Oncology | ASCO and look for yourselves.

DO NOT FALL FOR MOST OF THE MEDICAL ADVICE in this thread. Sure, if you want to use pot to handle some of the symptoms, feel free. They likely will work. But pot does not kill cancer cells and no reputable scientist has made any such claims.

 

[walleye]

Not much about you in your profile howie, pharmaceutical i assume. You can't crush our hope hear. see antonist for answers to your concern for us. We are quite aware here of a greater power than the mighty pill. Peace and stay well but find a doctor who isn't just practicing what you are preaching. I refuse to believe in the precepts of reefer madness. Peace again, reefer always from gods' garden for gods' garden.

 

[herbsmaster]

what a great post, thanks for taking the time to put this out there

 

[Howieman]

Not much about you in your profile howie, pharmaceutical i assume. You can't crush our hope hear. see antonist for answers to your concern for us. We are quite aware here of a greater power than the mighty pill. Peace and stay well but find a doctor who isn't just practicing what you are preaching. I refuse to believe in the precepts of reefer madness. Peace again, reefer always from gods' garden for gods' garden.

I am definitely a pharmaceutical person. But really, please encourage people to get proper treatment. I love smoking weed, but it will not have any impact on cancer cell growth, unless you ingest so much it is a cause of a new malignancy (i..e.- the beloved Bob Marley). You've got to be responsible man. It won't help in the ways you hope, not in a single circumstance, ever and never. I want people to get treatment and live longer and better, that's all.

Peace.

 

[Dave Groomer]

Not much about you in your profile howie, pharmaceutical i assume. You can't crush our hope hear. see antonist for answers to your concern for us. We are quite aware here of a greater power than the mighty pill. Peace and stay well but find a doctor who isn't just practicing what you are preaching. I refuse to believe in the precepts of reefer madness. Peace again, reefer always from gods' garden for gods' garden.

Thanks. I was trying to decide how to reply without coming off as an assh$)?.

 

[walleye]

John (bible!) 8:45 8:59 9:03 9:07 9:23 just sayin, truth is in battle mode now. Truth will out and I will accept truth where ever scattered it may be. Peace hope and Love all of many one (2 three!)

 

[walleye]

My mind is now on a harley, riding to biker bars enroute to casino to drop a franklin and buy tickets to Rascal Flatts for Diane who is chillin at Disney - it's a state of mind!! Happy independence world and let's have some fun where ever we find it. Can't wait for Thursdays' Walk off the Earth in Detroit. Much safer now with all the reefer being smoked and music in the air. walleye-baked,smoked and fried!