CajunCelt thank you very much for the clarification and I will study the BioBombs mixture. is it easy for someone like me to mix it?
A Base Treatment Regimen For Cancer
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CajunCelt thank you very much for the clarification and I will study the BioBombs mixture. is it easy for someone like me to mix it?
Thank you Rad.You wouldn't believe how my brain fights with these calculations.
I just spent a grueling 30 minutes figuring out how to calculate the dose volumes, given the target dose and the cannabinoid percentages, and working it backwards to find mg of cannabinoids given the dose volume and cannabinoid percentages. Aaarrrgggghhhh!!! I think I finally got the brain cells to catch it, and then I took good notes and made a cheat sheet. I refuse to let my math-challenged blonde brain get the upper hand.
stayalive, keep in mind that our formulations for the BioBomb mixes are slightly off in carrier oil volumes to accommodate the addition of the invaluable liquid sunflower lecithin. You'll still end up with the same total volumes, but the carrier oil portion of the 20:1, for example, would be 16 cc of carrier oil (olive oil) and 4 cc of liquid sunflower lecithin for ever 1 cc of concentrated cannabis oil. You still end up with 21 cc of total mix, but it's potentiated by the addition of the lecithin.
SweetSue please forget my question before regarding how much sunflower lecithin to add
carrier oil should be olive oil but may I ask why not cocos nut oil?
I'm always going to encourage you to ask lots of questions stayalive.
Coconut oil is a medium-chained fatty acid. That means when it goes through the gut it goes straight to the liver first, and it's the liver that metabolizes the cannabinoids. Metabolized THC gets you wonderfully high, but then you lose the ability to kill cancer cells. We recommend coconut oil if you're using oil for recreational purposes (you want the buzz then) or if you're treating liver disease, because you want the cannabinoids there in particular, and you want them in there quickly. In the case of liver disease we strongly push competitive inhibition practices to give the greatest chance to the cannabinoids.
For everything else we recommend olive oil, which will absorb more cannabinoids than other oils, but it's also a long-chained fatty acid. Because of this, when it's taken through the gut it gets absorbed into the lymphatic system before getting to the liver, making more cannabinoids available.
With suppositories one could argue it won't matter, but I think the medicinal value of olive oil and its ability to absorb more cannabinoids per volume makes it the logical best choice. Olive oil contributes to the cancer-killing.
You can't make formed suppositories with olive oil like you can with cocoa butter, which is why we use capsules or 1ml syringes.
I'm always going to encourage you to ask lots of questions stayalive.
Coconut oil is a medium-chained fatty acid. That means when it goes through the gut it goes straight to the liver first, and it's the liver that metabolizes the cannabinoids. Metabolized THC gets you wonderfully high, but then you lose the ability to kill cancer cells. We recommend coconut oil if you're using oil for recreational purposes (you want the buzz then) or if you're treating liver disease, because you want the cannabinoids there in particular, and you want them in there quickly. In the case of liver disease we strongly push competitive inhibition practices to give the greatest chance to the cannabinoids.
For everything else we recommend olive oil, which will absorb more cannabinoids than other oils, but it's also a long-chained fatty acid. Because of this, when it's taken through the gut it gets absorbed into the lymphatic system before getting to the liver, making more cannabinoids available.
With suppositories one could argue it won't matter, but I think the medicinal value of olive oil and its ability to absorb more cannabinoids per volume makes it the logical best choice. Olive oil contributes to the cancer-killing.
You can't make formed suppositories with olive oil like you can with cocoa butter, which is why we use capsules or 1ml syringes.
SweetSue thank you for clarifying. is there a special kind of olive oil I should look for? please check the following pic if the dose I took was to big or fine?
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I forgot to tell you how the oil is done maybe it helps
please check the link to see how it is done. they didnt do the oil but it is the way it is done with ethanol
Why Ethanol Works So Well for Cannabis Extraction | Leafly
I read your link to ethanol as an extraction method
During most of this thread, ethanol extracted Concentrated Cannabis OIl (CCO) is the assumed method for people to home extract cannabis - so we are talking about the same thing
What is most important is how well and how concentrated the resulting oil. 73% THC is a good quality concentrated oil.
Quality is especially important with the CBD only oils. Most of us are in the USA and the CBD oil quality is mostly bad. Because it is a 'grey market' (halfway to black market) to sell CBD oil. A lot of the CBD oil is extracted from hemp plants in a way that is not 'food grade' quality. Most of the oil, even if good quality does not match the labeling when it has been tested.
Quality and lack of legal THC oil is why many people have gone to making thier own oil - but it sounds like you do not have to grow and make your own. This is good
I am glad to hear you slept well and that you are listening to advice and learning how to help your body heal itself. This is excellent!
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Stayalive,
Gather/organize your ?'s and post them here & Sue's thread. I'll answer them.
Gather/organize your ?'s and post them here & Sue's thread. I'll answer them.
SweetSue thank you for clarifying. is there a special kind of olive oil I should look for? please check the following pic if the dose I took was to big or fine?
That looks reasonable, but the more pertinent question is how you tolerated it? What was your experience? If it was ok, then stick to that dose. If you were uncomfortable cut back a little.
You may not realize how blessed you are to be here when Cajun has time to devote to you. We all defer to his knowledge, and he's been quite busy with life in general. I take that as a good sign for you.
You'll be wanting extra-virgin olive oil, organic, if possible.
thank you very much for summarizing it, very helpful and very much appreciated
sorry but I don't understand. I will go on with suppositories 4 x a day with same dosage as before when tacking but what do you mean with that I can drop back the tacking dose? when switching to suppositories will I stll do the tacking?
A small tack before the suppository dose will get the system primed for the larger dose. It doesn't have to be very big, just a taste.
how much liquid sunflower lecithin?
This is all worked out in the formulas. It's slightly different for each concentration. Have you found the thread on biobombs, or will you need a link?
shall I look for rectal syringes? or could I use the syringe I have?
I don't believe they come as rectal syringes, just as different sizes. Your doses will be approx 1 ml each, so that's the one I'd look for.
what would be the mix be? in amount
Here's the link to the biobomb thread
BioBombs: Cannabis Oil With A Kick
and the link to the post there that has the measurements.
The Formulations
thank you very very much
You're very welcome.
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I forgot to tell you how the oil is done maybe it helps
please check the link to see how it is done. they didnt do the oil but it is the way it is done with ethanol
Why Ethanol Works So Well for Cannabis Extraction | Leafly
Ethanol is the extraction solvent preferred around here, along with olive oil for infused oils.
I hope those answers helped. Keep asking until you're confident you understand what's ahead. We'll be here to keep answering.
That looks reasonable, but the more pertinent question is how you tolerated it? What was your experience? If it was ok, then stick to that dose. If you were uncomfortable cut back a little.
You may not realize how blessed you are to be here when Cajun has time to devote to you. We all defer to his knowledge, and he's been quite busy with life in general. I take that as a good sign for you.
You'll be wanting extra-virgin olive oil, organic, if possible.
SweetSue thank you for the answers also in your second/next posting that is very helpful for me. I am really glad that CajunCelt is allowing me to post all questions I have and I have a lot as you know. big love to both of ypou and all the others who chimed in and are helping with info and answers. all this and I am only at the start of my journey
regarding the dosage
the 2nd night was again fine as far as I can tell. I slept about 8 hours and stayed in bed for another 2 hours because I could not open my eyes after 8 hours sleep. I had to ask my husband to bring me to the toilette
SweetSue thank you for the answers also in your second/next posting that is very helpful for me. I am really glad that CajunCelt is allowing me to post all questions I have and I have a lot as you know. big love to both of ypou and all the others who chimed in and are helping with info and answers. all this and I am only at the start of my journey
regarding the dosage
the 2nd night was again fine as far as I can tell. I slept about 8 hours and stayed in bed for another 2 hours because I could not open my eyes after 8 hours sleep. I had to ask my husband to bring me to the toilette
It sounds like the dose is just a bit too high. Lol! You might want to back off just a tiny bit on the size of the drop you're using. I'm glad to hear you're sleeping though. Sleep is so important to the healing path. You'll never hear any complaints about the number of questions. This can be intimidating until you figure out it can't hurt you. You're in excellent hands with Cajun.
CajunCelt thank you very much for your kind offer to help with the questions I might have
I will be glad take this opportunity and ask you some questions.
what is your opinion that I want to mix the CO I have with CBD and maybe get a 60:40 THC/CBD? would this be preferable to the 73% THC and 6% CBD I use right now?
what is the max amount in mg one can tack in one session? right now I tack about 1/25 of a gram equals about 40 mg
as I had a full colectomy what is your opinion should I use suppositories rectal or vaginal? I want to avoid the highs
I will have on sunday a chemo session and I don't know if I should on this day stop taking the CO?
that's for now and thank you again for trying to help
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now I need to add another question after SweetSue was so nice and answered one question and in her opinion the vaginal suppository should be preferred. should I use a syringe or the 00 capsules in case I will chose the vaginal option?
Cajun will get back to you, but I can share that you do not want to discontinue your cannabis oil. It will help your body weather the assault of chemo.
Also, I understand why he recommended vaginal suppositories. It's closer to the affected area. You won't get high from them. You'll feel all warm and loving in the lower regions, but no euphoria beyond a sense of wellbeing.
Also, I understand why he recommended vaginal suppositories. It's closer to the affected area. You won't get high from them. You'll feel all warm and loving in the lower regions, but no euphoria beyond a sense of wellbeing.
hello SweetSue thank you for jumping in. so no pauses when I get chemos. good to know cause I felt insecure
regarding the vaginal suppositories that sounds very good to me
Peace and Love
You'll start to feel more secure as you go along, and you have every reason to be hopeful. You're introducing into your body components that communicate with your cells the same way the endocannabinoids would if your body could produce enough of them. You were evolved to heal spontaneously. Your system is a little out of balance in your healing forces, but you're doing something about that. Not just any something, but a something that goes far beyond symptom control.
There are no real guarantees in life, but the steps you've taken have dramatically improved your chances to find your way back to health and wholeness, and we'll be right here to carry you through, if need be, until you don't need our help anymore.
KingstonRabbi
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The cannabis oil will definitely help with side effects of chemo and also protect against damage to healthy tissue. While you are doing chemo I would increase CBD. Going back to my original recommendation, CBD is strong neuroprotectant and protects against other damage from chemo. I also read recently study that CBD taken following chemo increases the effectiveness of chemo, something we already knew here but good to see MDs are catching up.
The 60:40 blend you mentioned above would be good during chemo and between treatments. If you were just using CCO and not chemo I would go with my 2nd recommendation and use THC dominant blend, 3:1. You want some CBD to make THC more effective and easier to tolerate, but not too much until the THC has done it's work to beat back tumors.
That went fast Duarte. Any lab results that give you an indication of how effective it's been so far?
KingstonRabbi I will have another 3 cycles of chemo starting on sunday morning and I also will get Avastin the first time.
on sunday I will already dose 2 times a day as I want to start tomorrow friday with 2 times a day dosage. shall I take on the day of chemo before I go there 1 dosage cco? and then in the evening the 2nd dosage? or should I only take 1 dosage in the evening only on that day?
KingstonRabbi
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Stayalive, take both doses as usual on treatment days.
so never change the dosage because of a chemo session. thank you very much (very helpful)
