A Base Treatment Regimen For Cancer
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I like the way we've become extended family.
And it's all because of a certain smell...
Back in the 60s the aroma of Tacoma was visible in the air and you could just about cut it like a slice of cake and eat it. Not only the pulp Mills, but you had Pacific hide and fur with all her rotten animal hides down there at the port. Nowadays they don't have all the pulp mills and Pacific hide and fur has become a big recycler I don't think they deal in fur at all. But back in the day I used to trap and I take my firs to Eddie Bauer in exchange for product. No wait a minute I think that was LL bean that was the fur buyer, oh well it's been a long time.
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This talk about the smell of DMSO has got me laughing my as off...
Thanks all. I needed it.
Thanks all. I needed it.
Dave Groomer
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hello
I asked the following question in the ovarian cancer thread and I was told to try it here
hello
I am new in this forum and looking for help which cannabis oil could help to cure ovarian cancer stage 4. I read already a lot but I am still confused regarding which oil I need and what THC and CBD percentage
sorry for my bad english. I am from europe
thank you in advance
I asked the following question in the ovarian cancer thread and I was told to try it here
hello
I am new in this forum and looking for help which cannabis oil could help to cure ovarian cancer stage 4. I read already a lot but I am still confused regarding which oil I need and what THC and CBD percentage
sorry for my bad english. I am from europe
thank you in advance
Good morning stayalive
I went looking through the notes and haven't found anything I feel would be a satisfactory response. I'll keep looking today until I've come up with something substantial. I still have a class on cannabis and cancer that I haven't watched closely yet, so I'll dig into that. Cajun may catch this in the interim, but if not, rest assured I'll do my best to get back to you in a timely manner. My preliminary research is coming up with something in a balanced ratio of THC and CBD, but you deserve better than generalities. I'll be back later.
Your English is just fine.
Good morning stayalive
My preliminary research is coming up with something in a balanced ratio of THC and CBD, but you deserve better than generalities. I'll be back later.
Your English is just fine.
thank you very much Sue. I always thought it must be a high THC like RSO to cure the cancer but as you also mentioned a balance THC /CBD ratio I was told by a very knowledgeable person that I should look for a 50/50 THC/CBD or 60/40
I have no clue and I am still new to all of this. I had already 3 cycles of chemos and I am desperate to take the chance with the right oil
It distressed me to hear you'd undergone that much chemo.
Hopefully, encouraging natural healing will be more effective. I can guarantee it'll be more fun. I've been searching and haven't come up with anything definitive to ovarian cancer, but it set me thinking about many factors. This is so new to all of us that it's a learning experience, but what we learn will be used by those coming behind you, so let's give it a shot, shall we?
I'm inclined to go with the 60:40, THC:CBD. It's THC that causes cell apoptosis, and we want something as aggressive as ovarian cancer to dismantle as quickly as possible, so that would be where I'd want to tilt the balance, at least initially. You're talking about an area rich in CB2 receptors, so I can see where a 1:1 might work, but if it were me I'd still want to come in with slightly more THC.
There's a concern that ovarian cancer comes with the complication of the Id1 gene, but if you follow Cajun's regimen you'll be taking apignen, which has been shown to inhibit the transcription of Id1, in other words, more apignen means less Id1 to begin with. Cajun's oncologist once recommended up to 15,000 mg a day. That's too many pills for anyone to take, but you can offset that by eating lots of onions, (at least 1/2 cup a day) and make them red onions, if you can. They're rich in apignen and have been shown to effectively fight ovarian cancer.
William W. Li of the Angiogenesis Foundation includes onions, and in particular red onions in his recommendations of foods to prevent or treat ovarian cancer. The red onions are 60% more effective against cancer than white or yellow onions. Onions are packed with cancer fighters like apignen, anthocyanin, myricetin, and quercetin.
He also recommends
* 6 oz of fish 2-3 times a week will get omega-3s into the system so your ECS can create more cannabinoids internally
* 1/2 cup of tomatoes simmered in a little olive oil for about 20 minutes (I'd have to add garlic to that
) and eaten 5 or more times a week to supply lycopene * 1/2 cup of endive twice a week for the kaempferol, a potent cancer fighter
Just a few dietary changes that can give your body the upper hand at re-establishing balance.
Once you have the oil we recommend you investigate the potential of processing it into BioBomb capsules, which can be used as suppositories, the best way to get enough cannabinoids in to do the job at hand. If you're interested we can help you wrap your head around it.
That's the best I have for you at the moment stayalive, but it's a good jumping off point. We encourage you to ask as many questions as it takes to be comfortable going forward. It's a lot of information to digest alone. We're pretty good at taking the frustration and intimidation factor out of the equation.
It distressed me to hear you'd undergone that much chemo.
I've been searching and haven't come up with anything definitive to ovarian cancer, but it set me thinking about many factors. This is so new to all of us that it's a learning experience, but what we learn will be used by those coming behind you, so let's give it a shot, shall we?
I'm inclined to go with the 60:40, THC:CBD. It's THC that causes cell apoptosis, and we want something as aggressive as ovarian cancer to dismantle as quickly as possible, so that would be where I'd want to tilt the balance, at least initially. You're talking about an area rich in CB2 receptors, so I can see where a 1:1 might work, but if it were me I'd still want to come in with slightly more THC.
There's a concern that ovarian cancer comes with the complication of the Id1 gene, but if you follow Cajun's regimen you'll be taking apignen, which has been shown to inhibit the transcription of Id1, in other words, more apignen means less Id1 to begin with. Cajun's oncologist once recommended up to 15,000 mg a day. That's too many pills for anyone to take, but you can offset that by eating lots of onions, (at least 1/2 cup a day) and make them red onions, if you can. They're rich in apignen and have been shown to effectively fight ovarian cancer.
William W. Li of the Angiogenesis Foundation includes onions, and in particular red onions in his recommendations of foods to prevent or treat ovarian cancer. The red onions are 60% more effective against cancer than white or yellow onions. Onions are packed with cancer fighters like apignen, anthocyanin, myricetin, and quercetin.
He also recommends
* 6 oz of fish 2-3 times a week will get omega-3s into the system so your ECS can create more cannabinoids internally
* 1/2 cup of tomatoes simmered in a little olive oil for about 20 minutes (I'd have to add garlic to that
* 1/2 cup of endive twice a week for the kaempferol, a potent cancer fighter
Just a few dietary changes that can give your body the upper hand at re-establishing balance.
Once you have the oil we recommend you investigate the potential of processing it into BioBomb capsules, which can be used as suppositories, the best way to get enough cannabinoids in to do the job at hand. If you're interested we can help you wrap your head around it.
That's the best I have for you at the moment stayalive, but it's a good jumping off point. We encourage you to ask as many questions as it takes to be comfortable going forward. It's a lot of information to digest alone. We're pretty good at taking the frustration and intimidation factor out of the equation.
SweetSue thank you very very much for the detailed posting and trying to help. it made me feel real good
I agree that our conversation might help me and many others with ovarian cancer so let's do it
my family agreed unanimously to go for the cannabis oil treatment
as you gave a lot of info about the food I need to eat/drink I need to give you more info about my treatment till now. after the 3 chemo cycles I had the needed debulking operation (a very long and difficult one and should get 3 more cycles of chemo) and had a radical hysterectomy and a total colectomy. the result of the total colectomy is that I can't eat all food I would like or ate before. onions and tomatoes for example are not allowed to eat cause they can do a lot of pain and flatulence. I am right now testing the tomatoes and onions to see how the reaction is. peeled tomatoes looking good till now and onions I will start today after your posting motivated me to do it. I will let you know the reaction
since the diagnosis that I have ovarian cancer stage 4 I changed all my eating behavior and stopped to eat white flour and white bread, no sugar, no coffee, no meat and eat only fish. I switched to food with spelt. also no milk products from cows and switched to goat and and sheep milk products cause I am afraid of the casein in cow milk products.
regarding the THC/CBD I am still confused. a friend of a friend who is taking a kind of RSO agreed to give me 1 ml syringe of 73% THC and 6% CBD that he is using right now to give it a try to see how I like it and if I can take it. I thought I will try it with the tacking method that is recommended here in this forum.
thank you for the tip regarding the suppositories with BioBomb capsules. I will check it out but a big problem is that I need to check out if suppositories will work in my case because of the full colectomy. I still don't know who could answer this very important question
and and health for all and a very big 
to SweetSue
SweetSue thank you very very much for the detailed posting and trying to help. it made me feel real good
I agree that our conversation might help me and many others with ovarian cancer so let's do it
my family agreed unanimously to go for the cannabis oil treatment
as you gave a lot of info about the food I need to eat/drink I need to give you more info about my treatment till now. after the 3 chemo cycles I had the needed debulking operation (a very long and difficult one and should get 3 more cycles of chemo) and had a radical hysterectomy and a total colectomy. the result of the total colectomy is that I can't eat all food I would like or ate before. onions and tomatoes for example are not allowed to eat cause they can do a lot of pain and flatulence. I am right now testing the tomatoes and onions to see how the reaction is. peeled tomatoes looking good till now and onions I will start today after your posting motivated me to do it. I will let you know the reaction
since the diagnosis that I have ovarian cancer stage 4 I changed all my eating behavior and stopped to eat white flour and white bread, no sugar, no coffee, no meat and eat only fish. I switched to food with spelt. also no milk products from cows and switched to goat and and sheep milk products cause I am afraid of the casein in cow milk products.
regarding the THC/CBD I am still confused. a friend of a friend who is taking a kind of RSO agreed to give me 1 ml syringe of 73% THC and 6% CBD that he is using right now to give it a try to see how I like it and if I can take it. I thought I will try it with the tacking method that is recommended here in this forum.
thank you for the tip regarding the suppositories with BioBomb capsules. I will check it out but a big problem is that I need to check out if suppositories will work in my case because of the full colectomy. I still don't know who could answer this very important question
Wow stayalive, you're gonna make this more fun aren't you?
Just a few obstacles to get past. Lol! OK, you ask around on your end and I'll look around on mine and get back to you. We'll work this out so you can get more cannabinoids in without being too stoned. The BioBombs are potent through the gut as well. That high THC will make it a challenge. It'd be easier if you had some CBD to balance it out. The value of the BioBombs is their increased bioavailability. You'll get more effect from less medication. If you use olive oil as the carrier you'll bypass the liver going into the system and gain more time.
With the oral dose, start with a very small drop.
Oh yes, can you use suppositories vaginally? This could be your solution to larger doses. The BioBomb capsules make great suppositories.
Do you have any experience in dosing? For that matter, do you have any experience with cannabis? If not there's a protocol you'd be well advised to follow. You'll need to "introduce" phytocannabinoids to the system. Near the bottom of my signature line there's a link to the thread on dosing guidelines.
I'm trying not to overwhelm you.
I'll quit there. I need to get to bed anyway. I'll catch up with you tomorrow. 
I don't see an absorption reason not use a suppository in the traditional fashion. The absorption happens very close to the sphincter so the rectum can still absorb. I imagine the pathway around the bloodstream should still be intact - but that is not something I know. Only what I suspect to be true. It is a good question.
Mechanically, the issue with an anal suppository would be clearing the used capsules from the rectum. This may or may not be practical depending on how recent/how much healing has happened since the colectomy and the current cleaning process.
Mechanically, the issue with an anal suppository would be clearing the used capsules from the rectum. This may or may not be practical depending on how recent/how much healing has happened since the colectomy and the current cleaning process.
Wow stayalive, you're gonna make this more fun aren't you?
The BioBombs are potent through the gut as well. That high THC will make it a challenge. It'd be easier if you had some CBD to balance it out. The value of the BioBombs is their increased bioavailability. You'll get more effect from less medication. If you use olive oil as the carrier you'll bypass the liver going into the system and gain more time.
With the oral dose, start with a very small drop.
Oh yes, can you use suppositories vaginally? This could be your solution to larger doses. The BioBomb capsules make great suppositories.
Do you have any experience in dosing? For that matter, do you have any experience with cannabis? If not there's a protocol you'd be well advised to follow. You'll need to "introduce" phytocannabinoids to the system. Near the bottom of my signature line there's a link to the thread on dosing guidelines.
I'm trying not to overwhelm you.
I don't want to get the high so I need to go for the suppositories or the tacking. I will start today at bed time with a 1/3 of 0.100 of the 1 ml I got this morning for testing. I will do the tacking method
if I would have 100% CBD oil how could or should I mix it to get the proper balance?
you are saying that the BioBomb capsules make great suppositories. will they just dissolve in a short time?
I have no clue about dosing beside I was reading dosing guidelines a few times already but still not sure if I understood it. for now I got the advise to start a few days with 1/3 of 0.1 once a day before bed time
have a very good night
hello Radogast
thank you very much for adding your very interesting and important view
if I understood you right then the use of suppositories should not be a problem even with full colectomy. I thought the capsules used as suppositories will dissolve and there will be no problem with clearing from the rectum. I also saw that one can buy molds to do the suppositories with adding some coconut butter or oil.
Cannabis Suppositories: Is the Posterior Superior - www.CureYourOwnCancer.org
You also have the option to mix up the BioBombs and use the mix in 1ml syringes. Just insert and plunge. It's another option to consider. The capsules will dissolve quickly and travel easily. Formed suppositories require refrigeration, so they usually work best at home.
I'll give you the basics for dosing, starting with the oral dose done by tacking. The rule is "Start Low and Go Slow."
Start low, sub-therapeutically low, as in your tiny dose you've begun with. Stay at this low level for three days. Resist the urge to increase sooner. This initial three days will let your endocannabinoid system adjust to the supplemental cannabinoids.
Then begin to titrate the dose up. Begin by adding on a second dose of the same amount and stay at that level for 3-4 days. Then add on another dose. Now you're up to three doses a day. Stay there another 3-4 days and add in one more dose, to give you four a day. This will keep constant pressure on the tumors.
Now you're ready to begin using the suppositories. Yes, there's no psychoactivity, so the argument could be made to jump right in with them, but you need to build your body's tolerance levels so you don't overwhelm the system and have receptors go offline. They can be restored, but that's a challenge we'd hope to avoid.
Also, with cannabis often less is more. The traditional goal of a gram a day is being shown to be excessive in a majority of cases. Even extreme cases have responded to doses of 300 mg a day or less. Every individual body will react to cannabis in its own unique way, and there's no way to know how yours will react until you try. You'll be getting regular lab work and scans. When you have evidence that the cancer is being positively affected by the therapy stick to that dose until you have good reason to increase or decrease. That good reason would be inspired by labs or screens that show tumor growth or eradication.
Oral doses come with a certain amount of psychoactivity, but tacking limits this to a sense of wellbeing and gets the system accustomed to the cannabinoid doses. If you reach a point where you have difficulty with euphoria simply drop back the dose size slightly and it will fade. Balancing the major cannabinoids will take most of that concern away. I don't suspect you'll have any difficulty with euphoria with tacking, and there won't be any euphoria with suppositories.
Tacking alone will make you feel fabulous. It will not be enough cannabinoids to effectively eliminate your tumors. Suppositories will be your best bet for this.
Once you've established your dosing times you can start increasing the dose. You'll have suppositories by then and can begin adding them in following the tack. Go straight to three to four a day. The system will be ready for that dose now that you've created systemic tolerance.
It's a good idea to do a small tack about 10-15 minutes before you do a suppository, to prime the pump, so to speak. Stay diligent about the supplements and demethylation. Of prime consideration is the addition of omega-3 fish oil supplementation. You're already getting that from your increased fish intake. It might not hurt to add supplemental capsules. The phytocannabinoids will stimulate your own endocannabinoid production, and it's nice to have enough raw materials stored in the cell membranes for efficient production.
It sounds to me like you have trustworthy advice on your end. Excellent. It warms my heart that the message of cannabis as a healing force is being spread around the world. You gotta love the technology that allows us to attempt this across a digital field.
You also have the option to mix up the BioBombs and use the mix in 1ml syringes. Just insert and plunge. It's another option to consider. The capsules will dissolve quickly and travel easily. Formed suppositories require refrigeration, so they usually work best at home.
I think the 1 ml syringes would be an excellent choice - just the concentrated cannabis oil.
This is good because there isn't any "travel" to remove the capsules.
As usual, I respect and believe everything SweetSue said about dosing.
stayalive, if you had 100% CBD oil to blend in it would be a great benefit for you. The math stumps me every time. 
I have an engagement to get to, but if no one else chimes in for you on this I'll be back later to bang it out. I'm hoping KR catches it before me. He's the one who's so good at calculations. I play mostly with potent infused oils produced at harvest to keep all the goodness in. Those oils are much easier for me to calculate. My brain tends to transpose numbers, so I try to leave this reasoning to others.
I have an engagement to get to, but if no one else chimes in for you on this I'll be back later to bang it out. I'm hoping KR catches it before me. He's the one who's so good at calculations. I play mostly with potent infused oils produced at harvest to keep all the goodness in. Those oils are much easier for me to calculate. My brain tends to transpose numbers, so I try to leave this reasoning to others.
VerdantSpires
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Is there any opposition to supplementing the THC oil with extra CBD isolate? The isolate is available: