600W LED Grow

[IrishBoy]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

nice is all that from the molasses or other nutes?

its hard to say because i dont have a neutral plant test compare it to that didn't receive the sugar. i would think the sugars had allot to do with it, but cant say for sure. could be the light? nutes? genetics? so many different things it could say. but either way i will always add some kind of molasses or sugar to my grows. remember i am not using just molasses i am using the GH flora nectar, but its about the same as molasses just a higher price tag.lol. it was free so screw it ill use it.

 

[wizewizo]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

no these are way more frosty. last grow with the same strain it didnt get frosty until week 6-7 so hopefully by that time these will be withe white from the resin? i hope so!!
the camera dosent even capture how frosty they really are. the camera makes them look 50% less frosty then what they really are.

Just curious as to whether or not you are certain that it is the exact same mother plant that these cuttings were from, as I am fairly certain that you got them from a club so a different pheno isnt out of the question correct?

 

[IrishBoy]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

Just curious as to whether or not you are certain that it is the exact same mother plant that these cuttings were from, as I am fairly certain that you got them from a club so a different pheno isnt out of the question correct?

i sad same strain as of hindu skunk not as the same clone from the same mom. i have no idea if its the same mom or not. its kinda like if someone ask you is u have grew a blueberry strain before? you would say ya; if you have grown it before but it dosent mean it was the same pheno of course, but it is the same strain. so you could say when i did grow it, this strain grew short or tall bushy or not, it was a good yielder on not, if turned purple or not..ect. just like most purple strains turn purple even though its not from the same mom, its just the strain. thats what i meant when i grew the same strain last time. if you look up strain on google it will tell you all about the strain and how it grows and how it produces because of the type of strain it is, not because its all from the same pheno of course because thats imposable. kinda see what i meant?

 

[Mmmmick]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

great update Irish, they're really packin on the crystal. Looking good.

 

[IrishBoy]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

great update Irish, they're really packin on the crystal. Looking good.

yes sir their looking nice and frosty, like i said the camera only maybe picks up 50% of how frosty they really are. should be some killer smoke

 

[Steve McStoferson]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

very nice man, mad crystals for only 32 days of flowering.. I have a batch that are 28 days flowering and are only starting to get frosty.

 

[IrishBoy]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

very nice man, mad crystals for only 32 days of flowering.. I have a batch that are 28 days flowering and are only starting to get frosty.

ya i was afraid that because i wasn't feeding them any additives but only the GH flora micro and bloom with flora nectar that it would hurt the quality. but this seems not to be the case. i cant wait until the latter weeks when it really starts packing on the resin, should be very very frosty i hope?

 

[Calimann]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

They look really good to me, I'm about 2 weeks behind you.

 

[go green]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

Do you think you would be having the same results with 2x300W panels?

Looking sweet bro! Hope all is well!


-Go

 

[IrishBoy]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

Do you think you would be having the same results with 2x300W panels?

Looking sweet bro! Hope all is well!


-Go

i dont know for sure, but i think i would have better results with a few smaller units. but i think it would be best with several 180w units. more foot print and more even intense light on each plant IMO.

 

[Setting Sun]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

I wonder if over-all, the penetration would increase or decrease with multiple lower-wattage units?

The 600w has more intensity and penetration at the expense of footprint, so you would gain more footprint with more units of lower wattage, but I'm wondering if you would lose penetration even having one 180w over each plant.

Reason I'm wondering is because that 600w seems so bright and powerful that maybe it's not a linear thing.

 

[trichtone]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

Well I just purchased 2 x 300W panels from Mike....so I am hoping that they will provide me the sweet spot of coverage versus penetration. Great job on the grow Irish. I have been following alot of the LED grows on the various forums, and your grow has been one of the most promising. No offense to the other LED growers as I know it only gets better with all the pioneers tweaking each iteration

 

[IrishBoy]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

I wonder if over-all, the penetration would increase or decrease with multiple lower-wattage units?

The 600w has more intensity and penetration at the expense of footprint, so you would gain more footprint with more units of lower wattage, but I'm wondering if you would lose penetration even having one 180w over each plant.

Reason I'm wondering is because that 600w seems so bright and powerful that maybe it's not a linear thing.

Ive thought about that but i still think maybe more smaller ones would have more penetration. the reason why is because if you had a smaller unit over each plant you could get more foot print and more penetration because now you could have the light closer to the plant and their for more penetration; since you need to have the 600w light higher above the plants to get more foot print you lose allot of penetration by the square law. just my opinion i dont know if its right? but makes sense in my head..lol.. but i do understand what ur saying 100% SS. i was thinking well of course my 600w has more intense power, but as i was looking at the light allot of the light going to the plants is shadowing light not too much light hitting the plants right underneath the light since the canopy is so large. so i am thinking since each plant would be directly under each light i would think it would be more intense light? dose that make sense or am i just looking at it wrong? now i dont know if you were just growing a few plants then the 600w would be better but i think if you doing 4 or more plants then its not the way to go unless ur doing a SOG

 

[IrishBoy]

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Well I just purchased 2 x 300W panels from Mike....so I am hoping that they will provide me the sweet spot of coverage versus penetration. Great job on the grow Irish. I have been following alot of the LED grows on the various forums, and your grow has been one of the most promising. No offense to the other LED growers as I know it only gets better with all the pioneers tweaking each iteration

thank you means allot to hear that brother. in my opinion their is no set hight i think its something the grower needs to figure out by watching their plants, the plants will tell you if it too close or far. i think the two 300's will do you good of course depending on how many plants you do.

 

[IrishBoy]

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i just went into the room to feed my girls and holy $hit it smell like a skunk was killed in my room, and the resin is getting crazier and crazier ever day, the plants are sooo frosty now i cant believe it. i just feed them with a enhancer thats 100% organic. so we shall see what happens? i was just trying to do a straight up grow without any bloom additives but i am hoping the XJ-13 will fill in those long colas because that would be some big buds if it did. so i thought i would give them a hand by adding some Green Fuse.

 

[Setting Sun]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

Ive thought about that but i still think maybe more smaller ones would have more penetration. the reason why is because if you had a smaller unit over each plant you could get more foot print and more penetration because now you could have the light closer to the plant and their for more penetration; since you need to have the 600w light higher above the plants to get more foot print you lose allot of penetration by the square law. just my opinion i dont know if its right? but makes sense in my head..lol.. but i do understand what ur saying 100% SS. i was thinking well of course my 600w has more intense power, but as i was looking at the light allot of the light going to the plants is shadowing light not too much light hitting the plants right underneath the light since the canopy is so large. so i am thinking since each plant would be directly under each light i would think it would be more intense light? dose that make sense or am i just looking at it wrong? now i dont know if you were just growing a few plants then the 600w would be better but i think if you doing 4 or more plants then its not the way to go unless ur doing a SOG

We're on the same page.

It's just an issue of juggling energy and number of plants.

You'd gain back some of the intensity of the 600w by being able to place the smaller units closer to each plant, but what I'm wondering is whether you would gain it *all* back or not.

Guess a light meter would help answer that.


A really good side-by-side comparison would be a 600w vs two 300's, or 300w vs two 180's, with whatever number of plants are covered adequately by each side.

thanks bro

 

[IrishBoy]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

We're on the same page.

It's just an issue of juggling energy and number of plants.

You'd gain back some of the intensity of the 600w by being able to place the smaller units closer to each plant, but what I'm wondering is whether you would gain it *all* back or not.

Guess a light meter would help answer that.


A really good side-by-side comparison would be a 600w vs two 300's, or 300w vs two 180's, with whatever number of plants are covered adequately by each side.

thanks bro

ya i agree 100% that would be a great test. its hard to say?? well if things work out good ill proable swap out my 600w for a few of the 180's and we shall see how it dose. i want to do a few more plants on my next grow and their is no way i can have this 600w simi close and cover them all. next time i am also going to flower them smaller, i just wanted to see how the penetration was on this light so thats why i did them so tall.

 

[Setting Sun]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

Sounds good irish.

It's great that you're trying different things on each of these LED grows. That's gonna help us all learn what setups work best.

So the penetration with those tall plants doesn't seem to be a problem. How are the lower buds doing?

 

[dogsnova]

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I've thought about that but i still think maybe more smaller ones would have more penetration. The reason why is because if you had a smaller unit over each plant you could get more foot print and more penetration because now you could have the light closer to the plant and their for more penetration; since you need to have the 600w light higher above the plants to get more foot print you lose allot of penetration by the square law. just my opinion i dont know if its right? but makes sense in my head..lol..

Makes sense in my head also... i.e. I would much rather have 2 300w units 6" away and getting the same canopy coverage then 1 600w unit 12" away getting that same canopy coverage.. Just my 2 pennies worth...

 

[IrishBoy]

re: GLH 600W LED Grow

Sounds good irish.

It's great that you're trying different things on each of these LED grows. That's gonna help us all learn what setups work best.

So the penetration with those tall plants doesn't seem to be a problem. How are the lower buds doing?

my tallest girls are around 38" and i am gonna have pop corn buds on the bottom with my light at 16"or so high. penetration isn't all to great compared to others HID light. my opinion is that the best way to grow with leds is SOG SCROG or what i did LST. my hindu skunks are perfect for this leds grow their only 22" with about 6" of lollipop on them.