6-Day Sensitization Protocol: Resetting The Tolerance Levels

[Grandpa Tokin]

Doing well this morning. Got lots of exercise just snow blowing my driveway and path to my shop/grow. We got about 5 inches last night. Looking forward to getting high again though. I did not notice any night sweats last night and I slept a good 6.5 hours which is long for me. My appetite is coming back a little too. It’s not that I wasn’t hungry, per say; rather, I couldn’t find what to eat. Every time I thought of eating my stomach got a little queasy. That’s subsided quite a bit now and I feel as though I could eat anything. My wife is cooking something delicious and the smell is making me salivate...Pavlov’s doggy.

Have a great day everyone!

 

[Amy Gardner]

What does everyone else think?

It is an interesting question. I think it's maybe a good question for Dr Sulak, seeing as he developed the protocol we're all following and can probably respond from a place of broader experience than any of us (even Sue, and that's saying something eh?!). In any case I'd be very interested in his take on it.

Nightmask you could probably reformulate the 2 posts from here in to an email to him (and include some of what Sue said if she's ok with that).

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[Amy Gardner]

Oooh day 7! I've landed a fairly optimum dose with my oil I think - even tho I'm fairly certain I'll be needing to tweak this over time, I'm very new to the therapy and oil making.

But! Today I get to experiment with seeking the vaping dose on top of that. honestly it's all I can do not to 'wake and bake' .. I'm so looking forward to getting high .. My original plan has been to now experiment with adding to the therapeutic dose with the vape as this is kind of how I've been using it - but not sure I have the patience. It's likely I'll need less to get high though so I really should ease in I suppose...

It's not completely clear to me how it might be possible to use this protocol when you dose in multiple ways for both therapeutic and recreational purposes. This is the question I'm formulating for Dr Sulak myself. It seems geared towards one type of dosing at a time. I'm curious about how to deal with a 'base meds' + extras situation...

I will attempt to do as I planned and use the days 3-5 practice for inhalation now, while continuing my oil dose. Will report back.

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[Amy Gardner]

Oooh day 7! I’ve landed a fairly optimum dose with my oil I think - even tho I’m fairly certain I’ll be needing to tweak this over time, I’m very new to the therapy and oil making.

I contemplated editing this post and just changing that but decided to reply to myself instead. A bit of a false impression - I took what I thought was the optimum I found yesterday and it’s not so good. I don’t think oil in this quantity suits me. I really don’t like the physical feeling and it seems to have sent my mood into a downward spiral that I’m challenged to shift through good thoughts. Maybe the better dose is one step back, which would be the .25ml of my current oil (I took .5 this morning).

None of this happens when I vape - so I’m starting to wonder if oil isn’t for me. Maybe it’s just this batch, or maybe I need this micro dose plus the vape to ease over the top... I do know that the effects of the oil dose this morning are not at all pleasant. .

The bad psycho-emotionals could be some accumulative effects of not vaping for a while (a week!) - this happens, it’s why I use Cannabis. Time to vape... easing in...

I hope everyone else’s journey is working out well - it sounds like you’re all succeeding in various ways. I don’t envy you the snow clearing GT, but it sounds like you enjoy it! I want to love snow , and I’m sure I’d love being in a cosy cabin with a crackling fireplace and romantic snow flakes drifting by the window... but that’s not the full reality. Cold and hard and wet is what I remember!

Good wishes all .

 

[SweetSue]

It's not completely clear to me how it might be possible to use this protocol when you dose in multiple ways for both therapeutic and recreational purposes. This is the question I'm formulating for Dr Sulak myself. It seems geared towards one type of dosing at a time. I'm curious about how to deal with a 'base meds' + extras situation...

I will attempt to do as I planned and use the days 3-5 practice for inhalation now, while continuing my oil dose. Will report back.

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I honestly don't believe that they took multiple administration pathways into consideration Amy, and quite frankly, this group experience was the first time it came up. Hmmm..... There we go, breaking new ground again.

When I went through it the first time I was mostly using a pipe, I believe, and that was what I used to judge effectiveness and to establish a base dose. I've always exceeded the optimal therapeutic dose. Following the first time through the protocol I didn't get to these levels again for a few months, but I went right back to my personal consumption level.

I stay high all the time.

I've never really had a tolerance level where I was having difficulty getting high. With me it's a matter of reigning it back, because I get more tolerant of the upper-level euphoria, and that's where I want to be all the time. That can get to be overconsumption fairly quickly. I gotta be able to keep up with myself. Lol! My own use is capsules for the CBD dose, brownies for my major euphoric doses, and smoking when I feel like it. How would I even begin to find an optimal therapeutic dose in my regimen?

The daughter wonders why I worry. "You're not going to run out, even at your consumption levels Mom." Maybe she's right.

I contemplated editing this post and just changing that but decided to reply to myself instead. A bit of a false impression - I took what I thought was the optimum I found yesterday and it's not so good. I don't think oil in this quantity suits me. I really don't like the physical feeling and it seems to have sent my mood into a downward spiral that I'm challenged to shift through good thoughts. Maybe the better dose is one step back, which would be the .25ml of my current oil (I took .5 this morning).

None of this happens when I vape - so I'm starting to wonder if oil isn't for me. Maybe it's just this batch, or maybe I need this micro dose plus the vape to ease over the top... I do know that the effects of the oil dose this morning are not at all pleasant. .

The bad psycho-emotionals could be some accumulative effects of not vaping for a while (a week!) - this happens, it's why I use Cannabis. Time to vape... easing in...

I hope everyone else's journey is working out well - it sounds like you're all succeeding in various ways. I don't envy you the snow clearing GT, but it sounds like you enjoy it! I want to love snow , and I'm sure I'd love being in a cosy cabin with a crackling fireplace and romantic snow flakes drifting by the window... but that's not the full reality. Cold and hard and wet is what I remember!

Good wishes all .

You're having more challenges, are you Amy?

I'd like to hear how you respond to a half dose of the oils while you're also vaping. If the mood concern doesn't dissipate it may be the terpene profile. I'm more inclined to think it's a dose issue. Cutting the dose in half may solve that.

Vaping, the body is responding to delta-9 THC. Capsules are creating the more potent 11-hydroxy THC, which may be more stimulating for your digestive system than you considered.

 

[Amy Gardner]

Sue Especially re the delta-9, 11-hydroxy info... you're possibly right onto something there
Will let you know how things go/are going later on

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

I contemplated editing this post and just changing that but decided to reply to myself instead. A bit of a false impression - I took what I thought was the optimum I found yesterday and it’s not so good. I don’t think oil in this quantity suits me. I really don’t like the physical feeling and it seems to have sent my mood into a downward spiral that I’m challenged to shift through good thoughts. Maybe the better dose is one step back, which would be the .25ml of my current oil (I took .5 this morning).

None of this happens when I vape - so I’m starting to wonder if oil isn’t for me. Maybe it’s just this batch, or maybe I need this micro dose plus the vape to ease over the top... I do know that the effects of the oil dose this morning are not at all pleasant. .

The bad psycho-emotionals could be some accumulative effects of not vaping for a while (a week!) - this happens, it’s why I use Cannabis. Time to vape... easing in...

I hope everyone else’s journey is working out well - it sounds like you’re all succeeding in various ways. I don’t envy you the snow clearing GT, but it sounds like you enjoy it! I want to love snow , and I’m sure I’d love being in a cosy cabin with a crackling fireplace and romantic snow flakes drifting by the window... but that’s not the full reality. Cold and hard and wet is what I remember!

Good wishes all .

Hahaha! I’m not fond of clearing snow...but I love frost!

I’m wondering if it could be something as simple as what you are making your oil from, Amy? I’m certainly no expert; just a thought. Edit: I meant the oil itself, not the weed.

My own journey is coming along...today is day 6! I’m excited to see what happens. I woke up feeling like it’s Christmas and I’m 5! LOL!

I’m feeling pretty good, slept well, and I’m harvesting tomorrow. All things are aligning well. No complaints. I sincerely wish each of you a wonderful Sunday!

 

[SweetSue]

Hahaha! I’m not fond of clearing snow...but I love frost!

I’m wondering if it could be something as simple as what you are making your oil from, Amy? I’m certainly no expert; just a thought.

My own journey is coming along...today is day 6! I’m excited to see what happens. I woke up feeling like it’s Christmas and I’m 5! LOL!

I’m feeling pretty good, slept well, and I’m harvesting tomorrow. All things are aligning well. No complaints. I sincerely wish each of you a wonderful Sunday!

Such lovely plants you grow GT.

I know that feeling. Lol! I remember it well from my own passage through the protocol.

See? I wake up and deliberately choose to feel like that every single morning. It's the secret to my power.

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

Okay...that did it. Suddenly, it’s a whole new morning.

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

Reset-schmeeset! Day 7 and all is well. Have a wonderful week!

 

[SweetSue]

Oh GT, you are a pistol. Having a good evening, are we?

 

[KingJoe83]

Reset-schmeeset! Day 7 and all is well. Have a wonderful week!

Congrats for making it .

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

I timed it so I would start harvesting yesterday (on day 7). I got a lot done and feel energized...the scissor hash may have something to do with that. There’s a possibility I may have overindulge a bit. Just a bit.

Seriously, this little reset was fun. Like going to the dentist...and finding out you only have 2 cavities.

I hope you all have a wonderful 420 experience.

Edit: I’ll be doing this again in the Spring. I think there’s something to be said for more daylight.

 

[SweetSue]

I timed it so I would start harvesting yesterday (on day 7). I got a lot done and feel energized...the scissor hash may have something to do with that. There’s a possibility I may have overindulge a bit. Just a bit.

Seriously, this little reset was fun. Like going to the dentist...and finding out you only have 2 cavities.

I hope you all have a wonderful 420 experience.

Edit: I’ll be doing this again in the Spring. I think there’s something to be said for more daylight.

I was thinking late spring or summer for myself, when the days are longest. It was fun cheering you all on. I think we learned a few things about the protocol, and definately about ourselves.

I'm considering a canna fasting day on occassion instead of a full-on protocol. I'm too broad a user to try to reset a dose level, but the system appreciates the breathing space every now and then. If I'm honest with myself there are times I can feel the need for a small break.

It's so accessible to me now, in a way it never was, nor did I ever dream possible. Part of what I deal with is the backlash from all the years of lack and deprivation. On the flip side, I really do my best work when I loosen all the creative forces and dare to soar. There's a particular level of insight and perspective that I don't get without the stratospheric buzz I live in most days.

Without cannabis the ability to focus drops and although I'll get things done, they lack the energy of me with cannabis. I think we can all agree that the community at large benefits from my penchant to be totally medicated.

 

[KeifKeith]

Hello fellow 420Magazine folks!

Well what have we here? Folks taking a break from THC?

Ramblings of a old man with some time off for the Holidays ...

Hehehe, reset ... laughing at myself, the "reset" we all need every now and again. I've been fortunate to have my own produce available most all of my 50+ years of partaking in Cannabis. I too have reached the "I gotta take a break" level many times during my half century of use and over use. it's never a fun week or so going cold turkey, but the realities of life are inescapable while living it. But, unlike most any other substance I've overdone, Cannabis detox is of a relatively short duration and intensity, to me nothing like Opiates, Benzos, Cocaine or any other thing humans inevitably overdo. For me, it's always been the mental part of quitting, resetting, the withdrawal period mentally was always the most difficult to manage. To me, the physical symptoms were like being sick from a Virus or Bacteria, never fun, but manageable. The mental part can be excruciating, damn big fat brains we humans possess. This resource makes those dealing with a "reset" mentally more comfortable, just knowing others experience similar things and human compassion are critical to getting through it all. No one here is very weak or super strong, we are all just people that need other people to help us get through life.

I don't know how many times I've reset, several dozen times at least, both for drug screens and for tolerance levels, but the good news is after reset it's like being a teen again for a few months! For some reason, I don't need much Cannabis to get and keep me going in my later years, a couple of good hits and I've good to go for hours if not the whole day. I've tried the "Strain Juggle", and it does help tolerance a little, but it only seems to delay the inevitable, THC tolerance.

Personally, I've been using Cannabis for recreational purposes, and not in a truly medical manner (regular even dosing etc.), but I do make CCO Capsules for my son (thank you for your help Sue!). His life is better than it ever has been, MM has been a blessing to him and his family. I hope that no one using Cannabis for a medical condition thinks a reset is going to be beneficial. Keep taking the medicine if it's helping! It's probably THE safest medical profile a drug has ever presented, bar none. I can't think of ANY other pill, injection or medical product with fewer negative side effects and zero overdose potential.

Sorry Sue, my old N'awlins ass will be stuck using "strain" vice "chemovar" for the rest of my life. It does sound classier though ... chemovar ... almost French !My Mom used the word cultivar often, but I didn't appreciate the classifications or vocabulary of botany and horticulture as a child!

I hope all of you fine folks get through without too much discomfort, H2O and constant hydration are a daily requirement to feeling good. I drink at least 1 gallon of water each and every day, and that alone has improved my health and well being. Kidney Stones started me doing the hydration thing about 25 years ago, and I was amazed at the benefits of never feeling thirst. Don't overlook water as THE most important thing to your life, it is the most essential element (OK, compound, two elements) to life on earth period.

Love and peace to all the good people here of 420Magazine, this is a special place with special people. So glad I found this digital communal resource!

HoHoHo to all!

Keith

 

[SweetSue]

Keith, that was such a delightful read.

Let me reiterate that fine point:

If you are a medical patient using cannabis proceed with caution, and don't hesitate to stop if you run into difficulty. It's not a sign of weakness that you have a healing ECS.

 

[Moonshine17]

Good morning and happy new year everyone. Sue, i found this thread while trying to decide which of your many awesome threads to leave your hny message. This is a killer thread. Im in major need of reset i think. Getting started today! After i medicate! Lol. Happy New Years Sweet Sue!

 

[SweetSue]

Good morning and happy new year everyone. Sue, i found this thread while trying to decide which of your many awesome threads to leave your hny message. This is a killer thread. Im in major need of reset i think. Getting started today! After i medicate! Lol. Happy New Years Sweet Sue!

Happy New Year Moonshine.

One of the things we learned is this protocol will be easier to get through when it's warm outdoors and the days are long. Light therapy and movement make success less of a struggle.

Whenever you attempt the protocol we'll be here to cheer you on and hold your hand. This is not for the faint of heart, so no beating up on yourself if you fall off.

 

[Amy Gardner]

There's no doubt this protocol works!

Hi all, and a happy and prosperous new year to everyone.

I thought I'd post an update on the outcome of my reset. Contrary to many, I actually didn't find the 2 days abstinence too bad. This is possibly partly because I have very little on my plate in terms of worldly interactions at the moment so could just stay in my own space - very few stressors, except pain and that's a known quantity with other ways of managing it, or bearing it. There was some challenging IBS which always happens (and us apparently not uncommon so be prepared) - and it's hard not to turn to what usually relieves it but I managed ok.

After that, the first few days doing the micro dosing went well too. Things happened very close to how Dustin Sulak described. That included a moment of oops too much on the first day of taking an extra dose, where he describes that you can have a surge of the very symptoms you're trying to treat. What I found difficult, shall we say challenging, was after the re-sensitisation I found it very easy to have too much THC, in a way that doesn't usually happen when I smoke or vape. So this was only by taking oil (2:1 CBD:THC) - I left my vape out of it for the full 6days. Sue helped me clarify that the sensitivity to ingested THC is different to inhalation. inhalation gives delta9 THC, and ingestion gives 11-hydroxy THC and clearly I'm not so happy with the latter (Sue I've pulled that out of my memory, to test it, if it's wrong I'll go back and correct!). This has been a great discovery, and helped me understand why I've never been a great fan of edibles. So the protocol helped me isolate something quite detailed, and important, and I'm very grateful for that. To the protocol and to SweetSue both. ..

I'm currently taking 2-3 very small doses of my oil a day and enjoying a vape in amongst that at times.

Oh and water people, why is it so hard to remember?? I wake up dry all the time - not enough water in the day. You need to double at least your water intake it seems.

This protocol definitely does what it claims and resets. Super well . So well, I'd say be careful coming out the other side, it's easy to have too much. It's really different to just abstaining for a few day or a week and then jumping back in. Those micro-dosing days do something very powerful.

I'm asking our beloved plant to do a lot of different things for me and that's going to take a little while to figure out, especially without access to a good variety, yet, to test my responses to different chemovars and terpene profiles.

I plan to do the protocol again sometime soon using different dosing methods. I have some stuff to work out about those but will keep them to the dosing thread. And when I'm up to it I will write to Dr Sulak and ask about the situation of using more than one dosing method.

Happy green things .. to all

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[SweetSue]

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