6-Day Sensitization Protocol: Resetting The Tolerance Levels

[SweetSue]

I really wanna do the cleanse so I can feel it again without having to smoke a bowl full, but that right there is the main thing holding me back. The withdrawal type symptoms. Difficulty sleeping, nausea, lack of appetite, no energy, etc. I've been through that a number of times and it's not pleasant.

I'll try to give it a shot sometime early next year when I've got a bit ready and cured. One of the few things for me that can help reduce/prevent nausea is taking a huge whiff of some nice bud. Just the smell alone of decent bud can make me feel better.

When I went through the protocol last year sniffing buds never occured to me. It's turned out to be a blessing. I'm waiting myself until the days are longer than the nights, because for me it makes all the difference in the world being able to get out to walk when I get jittery during withdrawal. The more consistently I exercise the easier the time goes.

Maybe we'll end up going through it together Nightmask. The thread will stay up and running indefinately.

 

[MsSinful]

I really wanna do the cleanse so I can feel it again without having to smoke a bowl full, but that right there is the main thing holding me back. The withdrawal type symptoms. Difficulty sleeping, nausea, lack of appetite, no energy, etc. I've been through that a number of times and it's not pleasant.

I'll try to give it a shot sometime early next year when I've got a bit ready and cured. One of the few things for me that can help reduce/prevent nausea is taking a huge whiff of some nice bud. Just the smell alone of decent bud can make me feel better.

I understand that 100% I was on suboxone for the last 9 years which is a Opiate blocker. I've been using cannabis to help me through that detox which took over a month. The down side to that is how high my tolerance to cannabis has shot up. You'll know when it's time to do this.
I was ingesting anywhere from 500mg to 1000mg daily, when I wasn't getting relief from that I knew it was time to re-evaluate.
My reset could be 100% different from yours. For those of us who have detox off something stronger fighting off the common cold can seem like torture because the symptoms are similar. I think thats what's making this a bit harder for me actually, everything I'm feeling I find myself comparing it to a detox from the past.

 

[MsSinful]

Sniffing buds and showers are now the game plan for the next 24hrs. Lol

 

[MsSinful]

StoneyMemoirs,
Thank you for mentioning "complete hours" until then I thought tomorrow will be my day 3 but it will actually be 48 complete hours.

 

[SweetSue]

Sniffing buds and showers are now the game plan for the next 24hrs. Lol

I kept a small jar with my favorite chemovar in it with me at all times before I got sick and had to stop. It really helped.

 

[Amy Gardner]

It's got me thinking--I wonder if my body is in a state of ketogenesis, burning all the fats and lipids stored in my body, hiding all the residdual THC...and that's why I feel good?

Certainly not high--but energetic, great mood, sharp. Digging it.

Haven't felt anything negative today, except just *not* being hungry.

When the first craving hits, I'll bust out that vape again. This is going well for me guys, and I have you all here--especially you, Sue, to thank for it.

This support stuff really works.

Hey Stoney, I think you're right. When ketosis is happening it can be accompanied by euphoria for sure! Even without THC already in your system. (Amazing they're not making fasting or low/no carb/sugar dieting illegal then, it gives euphoria for goodness sakes! Outlaw it immediately!.).

Anyway, I just had my one hit tonight and I'm feeling it. But damned if I don't want another. The pipe is right over there too. Are we sure it's one hit and not one bowl? :

Hey Sloppy - did you abstain for 2 days before that 'one hit'? I only ask because that really changes what that first hit feels like for me. Also, we'd all be keen, well I am anyway, to know what your experience of those first 2 days of abstinence was like .

Day 4 for me today. Still on the same micro dose of oil. Exactly .25ml to be precise and I'm still feeling the THC in a way I'm not after. I don't really want to feel the THC at all but do want the calming and pain relief of the CBD. I don't know if I should be dosing lower. .25 seems like almost nothing and I'm only just feeling the relief of symptoms I'm after. I may send an email to Dr. Sulak about this (when you sign up, it's free or you can donate, you get the privilege of access having him respond to your questions).

So I'm definitely feeling a touch of the therapeutic effect I'm after - but I'm also feeling the THC in a way I don't like. I've never liked the body stone from edibles. I like to inhale. That's why I'm wondering if this process is telling me i need a higher CBD ratio...

Frustrated at the moment, and resisting the urge to turn to other things for the pains. Will try to stay the course with it , maybe there's an accumulation thing that going to kick in at some point!

Kind of looking forward to when I start seeking the recreational dose! .

 

[StoneyMemoirs]

Hey Stoney, I think you're right. When ketosis is happening it can be accompanied by euphoria for sure! Even without THC already in your system. (Amazing they're not making fasting or low/no carb/sugar dieting illegal then, it gives euphoria for goodness sakes! Outlaw it immediately!.).




Hey Sloppy - did you abstain for 2 days before that 'one hit'? I only ask because that really changes what that first hit feels like for me. Also, we'd all be keen, well I am anyway, to know what your experience of those first 2 days of abstinence was like .

Day 4 for me today. Still on the same micro dose of oil. Exactly .25ml to be precise and I'm still feeling the THC in a way I'm not after. I don't really want to feel the THC at all but do want the calming and pain relief of the CBD. I don't know if I should be dosing lower. .25 seems like almost nothing and I'm only just feeling the relief of symptoms I'm after. I may send an email to Dr. Sulak about this (when you sign up, it's free or you can donate, you get the privilege of access having him respond to your questions).

So I'm definitely feeling a touch of the therapeutic effect I'm after - but I'm also feeling the THC in a way I don't like. I've never liked the body stone from edibles. I like to inhale. That's why I'm wondering if this process is telling me i need a higher CBD ratio...

Frustrated at the moment, and resisting the urge to turn to other things for the pains. Will try to stay the course with it , maybe there's an accumulation thing that going to kick in at some point! ��

Kind of looking forward to when I start seeking the recreational dose! .

Too cool! Thanks Amy.

I keep thinking, "I wish I had an answer for Amy"

I have a few CBD-THC 1:1 strains (and seeds for them...just sayin') here that I tend to really enjoy--but for the effects that I think you may be trying to avoid: Clear-headed raciness, with a little body/pain relaxation and a sharp, deliberate focus. Think 'clear headed sativa' without any real 'wow I'm high' feeling, and also with a little indica shoulder/back relaxation (at least that's where I notice it in myself!).

I do think it's possible you're in a funky middle-area with the CBD. Most doses I've seen are certainly higher than .25, and like you, I'm wondering if we'll see something else kick in with the same dose soon. Keep us posted??


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It's been really great having the support here. 100% couldn't have made it this far without it.

Tomorrow I'll be back in the saddle. Friends coming over in the evening, and they always want to see the plants and have a toke, so....I won't be the one to disappoint them

Looking forward to visiting the bong for a recreational hit for the first time since Sunday. Cheers everyone, hope you're having a good evening.

...These damn crypto currencies are keeping me up!

 

[StoneyMemoirs]

I forgot to give my own status update!

Really busy day today, again. Absolutely loving my productivity, and like you Grandpa,I'm tempted to change things perhaps more than I originally intended here.

I'll be breaking away tomorrow at the 96 hour mark. Today I took two vape hits--one at 10pm, one just now so I can get some sleep

Each one--a 10-second, 330* vape, made me feel things in cannabis I haven't felt in a long while. It was like seeing an old friend again.

Like I was instantly shot back in time and memory, and I really, really, have been enjoying it.

Best of luck to everyone in the darkness of their first few days tonight--the light is worth it! You got this.

Cheers gang, tomorrow'll be a good one.

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

Good morning. 48 hours complete! Seems much longer. Anywho, I’m still here. I’m considering breaking protocol here and fully abstaining for another day or two. I know that’s not following the program, but I’m considering it. If not, then my first Micro will be this afternoon.

Last night was not perfect, but not too bad either. Not sweating as much as night one, but still there. Restless and aching seems to be the norm. I’m really feeling my back injuries. The pain is tolerable, but very strong at times. It’s far more pronounced and noticeable when Cannabis is absent naturally. I was expecting, and partially prepared for, the withdrawal type symptoms. I was not prepared for pain. That increased my moodiness tenfold. However, it’s manageable for me. I found myself wanting to snap at my wife for asking me a simple question. I had to take a, “count to ten” moment and realize why I’m feeling that way. Plus, she would’ve kicked my ass...

Now, you may ask why in the heck would I consider abstaining longer? Well, first off, this little experiment (for me) made me realize that I can do it. That was my biggest mental hurdle and now that I know I can do it, I’m a happy camper. The thing I miss the most right now is a good wake and bake! That will happen...oh yes it will.

Have I rambled enough? I hope each of you have a fulfilling day. YOU have helped me! All of YOU! I sincerely appreciate that. It’s great to be part of this place. Thank you!

 

[Nightmask]

When I went through the protocol last year sniffing buds never occured to me. It's turned out to be a blessing. I'm waiting myself until the days are longer than the nights, because for me it makes all the difference in the world being able to get out to walk when I get jittery during withdrawal. The more consistently I exercise the easier the time goes.

Maybe we'll end up going through it together Nightmask. The thread will stay up and running indefinately.

Sniffing buds works a treat sometimes. I can feel nauseous and with the right buds all I need to do is sniff me a lung full and I'll feel better. It won't last indefinitely and smoking or otherwise consuming obviously works craploads better but yeah, if you're feeling sick but can't or don't want to consume it smell it instead. Even if it works only as a placebo it sure does smell purdy.

Exercise really helps to deal with that jittery skin crawling thing. It's like your nerves are sitting in neutral but the withdrawal messes with your system and keeps revving the engine. Exercise helps to use up that energy. I've personally been incredibly unfit lately and even though I know I need to exercise I keep putting it off from lack of motivation (lifting bags of soil and picking up plants surely counts?). So I'm not sure if withdrawals would be good or bad for me. Like, would it motivate me to exercise to feel better or would I just spend the whole two days in the fetal position cause I lack the energy to do anything. Lack of motivation sucks which is why I'm wanting to find a strain to help with motivation and energy and to get me up and active and doing stuff but zee plants gotta grow first.

I actually had a passing but seriously considered thought to start the cleanse tomorrow after that first sweet smoke of the day. But after figuring out the timing and all, well, long story short(ish, for me) next week is the last week before Christmas and I haven't bought anything yet and I'd rather not feel sick from withdrawal while being stuck out in public with lots of bags and having to ride public transport. Could get messy. So I might aim for around 2 months (crap I gotta wait 2 months) for the next harvest.

Showers sounds like a good idea, especially if coupled with sweaty exercise. So is that the holy trinity? Exercise, showers, and bud sniffing. Anything else?

 

[SweetSue]

Sniffing buds works a treat sometimes. I can feel nauseous and with the right buds all I need to do is sniff me a lung full and I'll feel better. It won't last indefinitely and smoking or otherwise consuming obviously works craploads better but yeah, if you're feeling sick but can't or don't want to consume it smell it instead. Even if it works only as a placebo it sure does smell purdy.

Exercise really helps to deal with that jittery skin crawling thing. It's like your nerves are sitting in neutral but the withdrawal messes with your system and keeps revving the engine. Exercise helps to use up that energy. I've personally been incredibly unfit lately and even though I know I need to exercise I keep putting it off from lack of motivation (lifting bags of soil and picking up plants surely counts?). So I'm not sure if withdrawals would be good or bad for me. Like, would it motivate me to exercise to feel better or would I just spend the whole two days in the fetal position cause I lack the energy to do anything. Lack of motivation sucks which is why I'm wanting to find a strain to help with motivation and energy and to get me up and active and doing stuff but zee plants gotta grow first.

I actually had a passing but seriously considered thought to start the cleanse tomorrow after that first sweet smoke of the day. But after figuring out the timing and all, well, long story short(ish, for me) next week is the last week before Christmas and I haven't bought anything yet and I'd rather not feel sick from withdrawal while being stuck out in public with lots of bags and having to ride public transport. Could get messy. So I might aim for around 2 months (crap I gotta wait 2 months) for the next harvest.

Showers sounds like a good idea, especially if coupled with sweaty exercise. So is that the holy trinity? Exercise, showers, and bud sniffing. Anything else?

Keep water nearby at all times, and drink as much as you can make yourself take in without stress. It's always recommended with cannabis, but when going through a period of abstinence it makes a profound difference in how you feel.

I can recommend a couple excellent chemovars for motivation. Carnival, from Ministry of Cannabis, is the best all-round sativa I've tested to date, and I have a long string of candidates to compare her to. She offers a clear minded focus and the energy to get things done. The best feature might be the total lack of any crash when you slip off the euphoria.

Dark Devil Auto by Sweet Seeds has a reputation around these parts for being the sativa that gets you up and going, so not only are they incredibly beautiful flowers, they also get you busy, with an excellent spirit and the motivation to accomplish whatever you set the mind to.

As Rifleman once noted "It's the only sativa in my extensive selection that doesn't shoot my motivation in the foot." She has a turnaround timeline of 2.5 - 3 months. I've gotten up to 4 ounces off one, so there's the chance for decent yields.

 

[SweetSue]

Good morning. 48 hours complete! Seems much longer. Anywho, I’m still here. I’m considering breaking protocol here and fully abstaining for another day or two. I know that’s not following the program, but I’m considering it. If not, then my first Micro will be this afternoon.

Last night was not perfect, but not too bad either. Not sweating as much as night one, but still there. Restless and aching seems to be the norm. I’m really feeling my back injuries. The pain is tolerable, but very strong at times. It’s far more pronounced and noticeable when Cannabis is absent naturally. I was expecting, and partially prepared for, the withdrawal type symptoms. I was not prepared for pain. That increased my moodiness tenfold. However, it’s manageable for me. I found myself wanting to snap at my wife for asking me a simple question. I had to take a, “count to ten” moment and realize why I’m feeling that way. Plus, she would’ve kicked my ass...

Now, you may ask why in the heck would I consider abstaining longer? Well, first off, this little experiment (for me) made me realize that I can do it. That was my biggest mental hurdle and now that I know I can do it, I’m a happy camper. The thing I miss the most right now is a good wake and bake! That will happen...oh yes it will.

Have I rambled enough? I hope each of you have a fulfilling day. YOU have helped me! All of YOU! I sincerely appreciate that. It’s great to be part of this place. Thank you!

I think I can understand why you're considering a longer break, but I'd like you to consider continuing on with Dr. Sulak's protocol as laid out. My reasoning is that this was a method of determining the optimal therapeutic dose, and the system is now primed to do just that. There's no reason you couldn't then take another brief break.

You come from opioid addiction. This experience showed you that you're not addicted to cannabis. May I ask, was that a small fear sitting in the deep recesses of your brain? The thought that you'd not be able to make it without cannabis? The thing is, there's no reason to deprive the body of cannabinoids, beyond this brief reset. All they really do is augment a system asking for assistance. The need for cannabinoids is still strong in your system. Think of it as cellular food.

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

I think I can understand why you're considering a longer break, but I'd like you to consider continuing on with Dr. Sulak's protocol as laid out. My reasoning is that this was a method of determining the optimal therapeutic dose, and the system is now primed to do just that. There's no reason you couldn't then take another brief break.

You come from opioid addiction. This experience showed you that you're not addicted to cannabis. May I ask, was that a small fear sitting in the deep recesses of your brain? The thought that you'd not be able to make it without cannabis? The thing is, there's no reason to deprive the body of cannabinoids, beyond this brief reset. All they really do is augment a system asking for assistance. The need for cannabinoids is still strong in your system. Think of it as cellular food.

Yeah, i understand completely, but I’m not tied to the protocol. I’m sticking with it for now. We’ll see what happens this afternoon and how I feel then. I’m actually doing much better than I thought.

There certainly was that “small fear” lurking that I would not be able to overcome the dependence. That has morphed into yet another fear, and that is the fear that I will torture myself for nothing and be right back where I started in a short amount of time. Make sense?

 

[SweetSue]

Yeah, i understand completely, but I’m not tied to the protocol. I’m sticking with it for now. We’ll see what happens this afternoon and how I feel then. I’m actually doing much better than I thought.

There certainly was that “small fear” lurking that I would not be able to overcome the dependence. That has morphed into yet another fear, and that is the fear that I will torture myself for nothing and be right back where I started in a short amount of time. Make sense?

Yes it does make sense. I took seven weeks in Pheonix the first Christmas after my husband died. I went to be under the loving care of a dear friend who didn't want me to be alone in my home that first holiday season without him. But she had a hard-fast rule about no cannabis at all in her home, and I respected her wishes.

That meant I came home with a totally clean system. Good news, eh? A fresh start, right?

I baked a pan of brownies and ate through the pan in two days time. I was right back to my previous consumption levels in no time flat. I don't recommend you torture yourself at all. It's never as much fun as it's advertised to be.



Life is meant to feel good. Keep that thought foremost in your mind as you move forward.

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

This one’s for you Sue:

Whip me, beat me, I love pain!
Hit me in the face with a rusty chain!
High heeled shoes with pointy toes,
Kick me in the face, and bust my nose!
Whip me, beat me, I love pain!

 

[SweetSue]

I come from a tattooing background. That delicious dance of pain and pleasure that makes it addictive is very familiar to me.

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

The Inner Inventory: before and after each administration, assess.

1 - Take a slow deep breath. How easy was that to do? Rate it on a scale of 1 - 10, with 10 being the easiest and 1 being the most difficult.

Before = 8 (little shakey); After = 10!

2 - How comfortable is your body? How easy is it to sit still, in a relaxed manner? Rate this the same way and write it down.

Before = 4; After = 8

3 - How is your mood? Rate this one as 10 being optimistic and relaxed and 1 being frazzled to the max.

Before = 4; After = 6

 

[Wildmanpete]

I'll have to give this a shot. I have been smoking a lot more than I typically do lately.

 

[Sloppy]

Hey Sloppy - did you abstain for 2 days before that 'one hit'? I only ask because that really changes what that first hit feels like for me. Also, we'd all be keen, well I am anyway, to know what your experience of those first 2 days of abstinence was like .

I did! I started right along with y'all from the git go. I used that old trick of distraction to get though the first couple days. Thanks to SweetSue, I purchased a dehydrator so I stayed busy making dog treats and people treats (both without cannabis - BTW). The distraction really helped!

Kind of looking forward to when I start seeking the recreational dose! .

You and me both!

Today was really rough for me. Bad night sleep and crappy/frustrating day at work. I *need* the next treatment!

Stay strong everybody. We're almost through!

 

[SweetSue]

I'll have to give this a shot. I have been smoking a lot more than I typically do lately.

We're here when you're ready Pete.

Sloppy, good to hear you're holding up. Almost there.