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re: Irish Boy's - 480W & 720w Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

turttle said:
I would pute the rocks in a bucket of water for a couple of weeks then test the water.Some metals are harmfull to plants.Like if you live by a copper mine maybe not such a good ideal.I think a good stone or bebbles would be any thing from the sea that may have traces of coral and stuff like that.I may even use this over hydroton in my bubblers.But its always best to test first for any palutants or contaminants.My opinion it just gives a little peice of mind.:peace:
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very good point. thanks for sharing this :bravo::bravo:
 
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They were redoing the outside of a bank years ago and I worked across the street. Saw them hauling stuff to the dump. Asked if I could have the rocks out front. Come to find out they are lava rock and made of glass, very lite. But these were big rocks. I pulled my truck up and they use a loader and put them in my truck. I pulled my truck up to a slope at my house and was just so proud of my new rocks. Hubby was not happy with me, so I went to roll one of the rocks off by myself..... and cut my hands!! He was even madder at me then. :)

Forgot to say, I still have the rocks but have not moved them to our present location. :;):
 
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bmarduk said:
Here's the info on lava coloration.
Lava rocks come in many colors

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Its just a precaution for bugs mold fungus n stuff.Just like if you reuse your hydroton after a grow you would want to starolize it.Not so much the lova rock itself.IDK.We have it all over my back yard we have a couple volcanoes one active.A lot of people use it to top there gardens and walk ways mostly just for looks but good for erotion and drainage benefits.I believe its a nuetral element.
 
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heres some pics of how the girls are looking, and here some bud porn of my harvest Hindu Skunk buds
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I think those plants will make is IB! May I suggest top dressing them with a CRF?
 
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DocBud said:
I think those plants will make is IB! May I suggest top dressing them with a CRF?
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thanks Doc.

i wanted to but kinda scared. i have 3TBS of DM red, 5tbs of mater Magic, and 2 cup of Bio-Tone starter plus, and whatever is in the Organic soil.

I have to remember how to grow in soil again.lol. i am not liking this mix compared to my SunShine#4 mix, this mix just get too muddy and is very hard to water and not drown the roots. i should have use allot of perlite or something to help with drainage, i thought the coco would be enough but i was wrong.

witch TRF do you recommend? i have allot.lol. DM purple, DM red, Mater Magic, OC+
 
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Heres all my buds dried and curing for a little bit. RH% in the jars is 59-60% witch is where i want them, when u start going lower then that the curing will stop. 55% and ur buds will no longer cure. 60-65% is best and ready to be smoked. i no longer need to burp the jars where i am at. for you guys that dont know i use RH% meters to cure my buds, ive posted this info on 420 a few times and know a few of u that are now curing this way, and love it. its truly the best way to cure and get the best smoke IMO.

Anyways i just weighed all my premo buds not counting the shit load i had to toss because of those buds turning Hermi and not counting the popcorn buds that didnt get too much light. but i ended up with 587.3 grams witch has me kinda down because i lost allot of buds from them turning hermi on me. dont get me wrong its a shit load of meds for me, but i believe i can close to that on my 600w grow with 4 plants in 5 gal pots, so if that aspect it sucks. because i had more watts and 2 more plants in hydro, but the key factor is i had allot of issues on this grow from spider mites high temps, plants that wouldnt flower so i had to change the lights to 10/14 but still pulled over a pound in 100F+ weather. so i am thankful of that. I did weigh each group because of losing so much bud per plant from going hermi, it wasn't fair to me to weight each plant group. all plants did better then i expected with these TRF's. So dont let any one tell you leds or TRF cant grow good buds!! If they can this with all these problems them can grow damn good.

I am not sure what 587.3g is in oz's?

I should have a smoke report tomorrow.
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i was surfing utube and found a product line i have not heard of on 420mag called yellowbottle from what ive heard its solely designed for cannabis and will not work well on other plants like tomatoes. it is expensive but they were saying the price is offset because the strength is stronger meaning you get more applications. another plus is their most of their products are hydro/soil compatible.

i thought you would be most interested in the silica and cal/mag. not sure what you pay now but ill break down their prices for you.

silica = $60 per liter
l mL / 3L = one dose weekly.
5 mL = 1 teaspoon
15 L = 4 gallon
1 teaspoon silica per 4 gallons
you can do this 200 times = 800 gallons
keep in mind this is a weekly dose so thats almost 4 years if you have 4 plants. 1 year if you have 16 plants.

cal/mag = $27 per liter
1 mL / L = 1 dose weekly
less than a teaspoon per gallon (3.8 mL / gallon)
this is good for about 298 gallons.

this seems cheap to me but i do not know what you pay now for your additives so i thought id throw this out there.
 
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587.3 gram = 20.72 ounce

28.349 grams = 1 oz
16 oz = 1 pound
20.716 oz = 1.2948 pound
 
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thinkerr said:
i was surfing utube and found a product line i have not heard of on 420mag called yellowbottle from what ive heard its solely designed for cannabis and will not work well on other plants like tomatoes. it is expensive but they were saying the price is offset because the strength is stronger meaning you get more applications. another plus is their most of their products are hydro/soil compatible.

i thought you would be most interested in the silica and cal/mag. not sure what you pay now but ill break down their prices for you.

silica = $60 per liter
l mL / 3L = one dose weekly.
5 mL = 1 teaspoon
15 L = 4 gallon
1 teaspoon silica per 4 gallons
you can do this 200 times = 800 gallons
keep in mind this is a weekly dose so thats almost 4 years if you have 4 plants. 1 year if you have 16 plants.

cal/mag = $27 per liter
1 mL / L = 1 dose weekly
less than a teaspoon per gallon (3.8 mL / gallon)
this is good for about 298 gallons.

this seems cheap to me but i do not know what you pay now for your additives so i thought id throw this out there.
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interesting. i pay like $10 for my silica and like $15 for cal/mag+. the strengths u posted are allot more constrated though. Ill check it out.. always use caution when buying stuff like that! for legal reasons, and for snake oil. try to find some grows using it 1st. i had a friend that bought some Cannabis stuff off of utube and it did nothing for his plant in fact i think it killed it?

thanks!
 
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thinkerr said:
587.3 gram = 20.72 ounce

28.349 grams = 1 oz
16 oz = 1 pound
20.716 oz = 1.2948 pound
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i am going to double check it again with my friends scale, this is a smaller one that i had to weigh in batches, my friend has a big ass one that can weight it all almost. just have to get his ass to let me use it.lol.
 
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Nah, what would be producing heat?

One assumes that you've enough O2 in the room for dark reactions/processes.
 
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bmarduk said:
Here's the info on lava coloration.
Lava rocks come in many colors

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It doesn't have to be rinsed except for active hydro systems with pumps, but I've out of habit always rinsed the dust out. Makes sense to leave all that nice volcanic dust in there though.

So, the red lava has more iron than the black.

I didn't save the articles, but I remember reading in more than one place that the black lava rock wasn't as good for growing plants as the red, but can't remember why. I thought it was too much iron, but I had that backwards.

In any case, I used to grow pretty nice plants in the red stuff.

It's not easy to sterilize or clean after a grow because it's so porous that roots grow all through it, but it's pretty cheap and can be recycled in the garden.
 
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TorturedSoul said:
Nah, what would be producing heat?

One assumes that you've enough O2 in the room for dark reactions/processes.
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its just cold and running my exhaust with the lights out is making it allot colder and i am thinking slowing down growth. so thats why i was wondering?
Setting Sun said:
It doesn't have to be rinsed except for active hydro systems with pumps, but I've out of habit always rinsed the dust out. Makes sense to leave all that nice volcanic dust in there though.

So, the red lava has more iron than the black.

I didn't save the articles, but I remember reading in more than one place that the black lava rock wasn't as good for growing plants as the red, but can't remember why. I thought it was too much iron, but I had that backwards.

In any case, I used to grow pretty nice plants in the red stuff.

It's not easy to sterilize or clean after a grow because it's so porous that roots grow all through it, but it's pretty cheap and can be recycled in the garden.
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Allot of Organic soil enhancers use the lava dust like Age Old Organics and a few others. so i would think it is good for soil but like you said active hydro not so good.

I just read yesterday that the red has more iron, not sure if its true? but a member on a forum was saying that, every grow i seen always used the red
 
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IDK if the fan makes it colder, but yeah cold slows growth. Can also interfere with some nutrients, I believe. Honestly, I thought everyone's exhaust fans were set on the same schedule that their lights were on, leaving only an oscillating fan or the like for general air movement and stem toughening/strengthening. Some probably don't even leave those running, IDK.

Of course if you've got a garden of odorous plants in mad flower, it might be wise to run the exhaust at low speed at least part of the time in order to direct the smell through your carbon filter instead of letting it waft throughout the premises, but that depends on the amount of odor and the grower's circumstances. Wouldn't hurt the plants any.

Yeah, red lava rock would have more Fe in it than black, that would most likely be why it's red. Iron ore and the oxides will be reddish/orangish, right?
 
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TorturedSoul said:
IDK if the fan makes it colder, but yeah cold slows growth. Can also interfere with some nutrients, I believe. Honestly, I thought everyone's exhaust fans were set on the same schedule that their lights were on, leaving only an oscillating fan or the like for general air movement and stem toughening/strengthening. Some probably don't even leave those running, IDK.

Of course if you've got a garden of odorous plants in mad flower, it might be wise to run the exhaust at low speed at least part of the time in order to direct the smell through your carbon filter instead of letting it waft throughout the premises, but that depends on the amount of odor and the grower's circumstances. Wouldn't hurt the plants any.

Yeah, red lava rock would have more Fe in it than black, that would most likely be why it's red. Iron ore and the oxides will be reddish/orangish, right?
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i was thinking that it didnt need to be on because i believe plants dont take in the CO2 at night right? isn't this why growers dont run their CO2 tanks at night? with the exhaust fan on it creats a draft and pulls in colder air into the tent.
 
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i remember you and some people talking about when you put plants on 18/6 in veg you always get preflowers (pistils).

if you are growing from seed and want to use the seeds as mother plants could you grow them 24/0 until they are bigger then put them on 18/6 and see if they are male or female?

it seems a waste of time to wait till the mothers are large enough to take a clone, wait for the clone to root, veg the clone for a couple weeks, throw into flower and see if it is male or female.

the only problem i would see with this is the possibility of the mother going hermie. i assume once it shows preflowers you would throw it back into 24/0 but i dont know if this increases the chance of the clones turning hermie.
 
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I was under the impression, especially during flowering, that running the exhaust fan will help prevent mold by constantly circulating fresh air in and around. Also, as TS mentioned, smell is a concern for some so another reason to keep it on 24/7.

This was something I remember getting a lot of opinions on and I settled with 24/7. I figure the worst thing I'm doing is using electricity..better then pm I suppose?

:peace:

Marley
 
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thinkerr said:
i remember you and some people talking about when you put plants on 18/6 in veg you always get preflowers (pistils).

if you are growing from seed and want to use the seeds as mother plants could you grow them 24/0 until they are bigger then put them on 18/6 and see if they are male or female?

it seems a waste of time to wait till the mothers are large enough to take a clone, wait for the clone to root, veg the clone for a couple weeks, throw into flower and see if it is male or female.

the only problem i would see with this is the possibility of the mother going hermie. i assume once it shows preflowers you would throw it back into 24/0 but i dont know if this increases the chance of the clones turning hermie.
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i dont think that would be a good way of telling? but like you said changing the light multiple time can make them go Hermi. IMO its best to just do it the way its been done for a long time and take clones then give them only like a few days to get the roots and flower them, you should be able to find out in like 14 days i think it is?. just like how SOG (Sea Of Green) growers do it, they dont veg but maybe 5 days to get some roots..
Marley15 said:
I was under the impression, especially during flowering, that running the exhaust fan will help prevent mold by constantly circulating fresh air in and around. Also, as TS mentioned, smell is a concern for some so another reason to keep it on 24/7.

This was something I remember getting a lot of opinions on and I settled with 24/7. I figure the worst thing I'm doing is using electricity..better then pm I suppose?

:peace:

Marley
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the RH% is good in my area plus i leave the fan still on, i should have said this i was only talking in veg. your right in flowering i just leave it on no matter what because PM wouldn't be horrible and why chance it IMO. very good post:welldone:
 
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