480W & 720W LED Grow - Land of Clovers

re: Irish Boy's - 480W & 720w Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

I wanted to get a Vote from you guys. this week or weekend i am going to be starting my other grow room with the two 300's. i wanted to get a vote from you guy's to see if you think i should just post that grow on this thread along with my two 108w grow and keep it all on one thread? or start a new one with the 300w grow and keep them separate?
 
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Layering it sounds like a good idea.

be interesting to check out the root ball after the grow.

I've got a couple of plants in 2-gal pots with 70/30 coco/pumice, and I mixed in a full dose of Mater Magic and 2/3 dose of OC+.

A week later, there's all kinds of fungal growth on the surface, and the plants are looking good, even though they're out in my shed in very cold temps, around 65 with lights on and down to 48 with lights off.

So that combo seems to be working well so far, although I don't think the OC+ is doing much with those temps, so it must be the Mater Magic.
 
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IrishBoy said:
I wanted to get a Vote from you guys. this week or weekend i am going to be starting my other grow room with the two 300's. i wanted to get a vote from you guy's to see if you think i should just post that grow on this thread along with my two 108w grow and keep it all on one thread? or start a new one with the 300w grow and keep them separate?
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It's a ton of work to keep two separate journals going, especially as popular as your journals are.

I vote to keep it all in one thread so you don't risk getting burned out.
 
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I second SS's vote!

I also like that idea Irish! Layers! BOO YA!

-Go
 
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I like the idea of everything in one place.

Think of the poor person trying to catch up on two of your journals a month from now. :reading420magazine:
 
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if you are going to use one journal i would suggest that everyone use a code in the beginning of their post like G1 and G2 or something of your choosing to designate which grow the post is referring to. this would make it easier for Irish to respond to and clarify the readers on which grow they are reading about.
 
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Setting Sun said:
Layering it sounds like a good idea.

be interesting to check out the root ball after the grow.

I've got a couple of plants in 2-gal pots with 70/30 coco/pumice, and I mixed in a full dose of Mater Magic and 2/3 dose of OC+.

A week later, there's all kinds of fungal growth on the surface, and the plants are looking good, even though they're out in my shed in very cold temps, around 65 with lights on and down to 48 with lights off.

So that combo seems to be working well so far, although I don't think the OC+ is doing much with those temps, so it must be the Mater Magic.
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ya my friend called me wondering about some mold on top of his coco right next to his mater magic, i told him not to worry their ur homies. i dont see this on top of my soil yet. but i know i have a shit load of Micro life.lol. but i have to say hands down seaweed is the best stuff every, its like a super boost for plants and within a day or so the just turn a dark sexy green.

on this next grow i am going back to SS#4 mixed with maybe 50% clay pebbles, and 100% clay pebbles in the res of my Hempy Bucket. i think the clay pebbels will provide more air to my roots then perlite, allot more safer for me then that perlite dust. plus i never used it. i would love to here ur thoughts on this?
Setting Sun said:
It's a ton of work to keep two separate journals going, especially as popular as your journals are.

I vote to keep it all in one thread so you don't risk getting burned out.
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ya i know on my 600w grow i was doing like 4 threads at once and that was allot of work. 2 wouldnt be so bad but more work for others maybe? thats why i wanted to get some votes for sure. i like to make my viewers happy
go green said:
I second SS's vote!

I also like that idea Irish! Layers! BOO YA!

-Go
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thanks for the vote.

yup the layers sound great to me and thats what i am doing for sure.
Two Tokes said:
I like the idea of everything in one place.

Think of the poor person trying to catch up on two of your journals a month from now. :reading420magazine:
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thanks for the vote. i didnt think about that at 1st sometimes these threads move fast so it would be a task for the viewers to read threw to threads. good valid point
Dexter4Morgan said:
i vote one place too

about the layering wont the lower layers get "used" up before the roots get down there ?
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thanks for the vote

No i dont think they will because they last for 9 months and i believe they dont just keep dumping the nutes out only put out what the plants need.
stak said:
I think I would prefer separate journals
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thanks for the vote
thinkerr said:
if you are going to use one journal i would suggest that everyone use a code in the beginning of their post like G1 and G2 or something of your choosing to designate which grow the post is referring to. this would make it easier for Irish to respond to and clarify the readers on which grow they are reading about.
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good point, what you guys can do is either say the 180w grow or the 300w grow, and when i post pics and info i will do the same so were all on the same page.
molotov said:
I vote for a single journal also.:reading420magazine:
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thanks for the vote
stak said:
it depends on the version that you have. I found some info on another site so I quoted it below. I have no experience with the strain.

there is an oaksterdam version (possibly formerly called grape stomper)
chemdog sour diesel (male) x purple elephant (female)




and there is an apothecary genetics version
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thanks for the info +rep!

At the end i think i am going to go with the Famous JACK HERER, i would love to see her under some leds
 
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Setting Sun said:
Here's something I found on "dibbling", which is the term used for when you put the CRF prills at root level in a hole.

check out page 36
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Very nice find! +rep

i was thinking at 1st the same thing, i dont think its best to dump all the prills into the root hole, i dont see the need for all of that food right their. i think its a good choice to put a pinch like i just did on these 2 new clones i got yesterday, just a pinch though.

IMO i think the layers like i was saying would work great. the food will be all around the medium and each layer will run down food when watered to cove the whole medium equal. as the roots grow they will reach a good amount of consternated food available to them. i worry about the prills being mixed threw out the whole medium like i just did on these girls because IDK what % is where? maybe 50% fell all down to the bottom of my pot or soil? maybe 50% is all on the right side of my pot? how do i know all of my roots are getting equal amounts of food? how much is on the top of the soil staying dry? these are my worries and this is why i think the layers will do great.
now as far as OC+ it dosent worry me as much because you add allot more prills, but with the DM you add allot less, for me in 5 gal pots its 3TBS thats not allot and is easy to get 50-75% of the prills in one area like the very bottom or more on one side then the other IMO. this worries me because i want all the food to find easy food and not waist energy trying to get it.


EVERY ONE DONT BE AFRAID TO REP THESE FOLKS FOR POSTING GREAT INFO FOR US. THEIR ALLOT OF PEOPLE SHARING GREAT INFO ON THIS THREAD AND ITS SHOWING RESPECT TOWARDS THEM FOR FINDING/SHARING GREAT INFO WITH UP. EVERYONE ON THIS PAGE IS GETTING A +REP FROM ME!
 
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OH YA THIS IS WHAT I WILL BE ADDING TO MY NEW GROW INSTEAD OF THE BIO-TONE STARTER PLUS I JUST ADDED TO THIS GROW WITCH I THINK BURNT MY GIRLS? Xtreme Gardening Mykos THEY SOUND LIKE THEY KNOW THEIR STUFF, AND WON TONS OF WORLD RECORDS, WITCH ISNT WHY I AM GOING TO USE IT.LOL. BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF NO NPK AND HAVING GREAT THINGS FOR MY ROOTS. WHAT U GUYS THINK?
 
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its funny when you always her someone say ur going to need a saw to cut those down! well its funny until you really do need one:ganjamon:
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IrishBoy said:
on this next grow i am going back to SS#4 mixed with maybe 50% clay pebbles, and 100% clay pebbles in the res of my Hempy Bucket. i think the clay pebbels will provide more air to my roots then perlite, allot more safer for me then that perlite dust. plus i never used it. i would love to here ur thoughts on this?



how small are the clay pebbles? perlite is small enough that it acts like a compact soil medium where when i think pebbles i think lots of air space. i cant see using CRF/TRF with pebbles because the medium may be too loose to hold the water/neut solution and it would just rinse to the bottom and out of the hempy bucket.

clay works in flood/drain and dwc because the roots are suspended in the nutrient solution either multiple times a day or constantly and the roots have time to get the necessary nurishment. whereas with hempy buckets the water is given periodically (3-4 veg to 4-6 flower times a week) and you rely on your medium to absorb as much water as possible which also absorbs as much neuts as needed. (this is my understanding anyway)
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thinkerr said:
how small are the clay pebbles? perlite is small enough that it acts like a compact soil medium where when i think pebbles i think lots of air space. i cant see using CRF/TRF with pebbles because the medium may be too loose to hold the water/neut solution and it would just rinse to the bottom and out of the hempy bucket.

clay works in flood/drain and dwc because the roots are suspended in the nutrient solution either multiple times a day or constantly and the roots have time to get the necessary nurishment. whereas with hempy buckets the water is given periodically (3-4 veg to 4-6 flower times a week) and you rely on your medium to absorb as much water as possible which also absorbs as much neuts as needed. (this is my understanding anyway)
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umm good point i didnt think of that, i believe u can buy different size ones? but perlite is still smaller, but i dont think their big enough to wash out the TRF unless if you used a ton of pebbles? the soil should still hold enough water to make them work fine as they did on my last grow where i had more perlite in my buckets to keep things very dry in the heat, so this shouldn't be any worse i would think?

I am not sure if the prills will fall threw though? i would say no as long as i mix the ratios good. i will mix things my feel and my eye. I would love to here others input on this??

thank you very very much for bringing this to my mind. this could have been a big problem latter on down the road if i didnt try to prevent this. something to think about.

ive seen a few grows done with chunky perlite and TRF's so i will have to compare them to that size wise. and these grows were 100% perlite. so the SS#4 should help allot more with moister and holding them into place.
 
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I don't like breathing it.

Lungs don't have pain sensors, but sinuses do and mine get dry enough this time of year.

It doesn't bother some people, and as far as harmful probably much less than vermiculite dust. But if I am dealing with more than a handful/cupful I do it in front of an exhaust fan.

But my lungs aren't in great shape anyway so I try to avoid what I can now.
 
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