420 Magazine's Official Girl Scout Cookies Comparative Grow By Emilya

[Fuzzy Duck]

Great looking grow @Emilya

Interesting to see you have noticed some phenotypes as well !

I'm sure GSC is living up to its name & that any good grower may want to take a cutting or two to see what this strain grows like


Mmm you may remember me mentioning stubby that was the shorter growing GSC phenotype with out the main cola the end flower structure is different from the rest & if remember correctly this one may of shown the mint terpene profile mention in GSC.

Ya got a few plants to play with & keep it green

 

[Emilya Green]

Great looking grow @Emilya

Interesting to see you have noticed some phenotypes as well !

I'm sure GSC is living up to its name & that any good grower may want to take a cutting or two to see what this strain grows like


Mmm you may remember me mentioning stubby that was the shorter growing GSC phenotype with out the main cola the end flower structure is different from the rest & if remember correctly this one may of shown the mint terpene profile mention in GSC.

Ya got a few plants to play with & keep it green

Its going to be fun, and I am already planning on harvesting separately and curing separately based on what I am seeing on the other comparative grows. It would be a crime to harvest and then mix all this together. There are at least 3 isolated phenos in here, and I can see which one it seems to have been stabilized on.

 

[Emilya Green]

Bloom - 2 weeks, 6 Days
Geoflora Feed - Day 12
Wet/Dry Cycle - Day 2
Number of fast waterings - 2
11 Days since last SNS Foliar, SNS 209 given on each watering
Length of Grow - 3 months, 3 days

The buds keep building and the previously described process of lower leaves slowly dropping is continuing. It may be that because of the size of these plants, they need a little more @GeoFlora Nutrients on each feeding, but I plan on going again with the suggested dosage of 2/3 cup for the 7 gallon containers. I can not see any evidence that the plants are really needing extra nutrient, I just think this is the way the plant is getting rid of leaves that are not getting light and need to be removed.

Here is a picture of potassium deficiency, and these leaves are very hard to find... maybe 3 or 4 in the entire room on just a few of the plants.

And here are the indications of phosphorus being robbed, where just the middle of the leaf is affected before it drops to the ground. This first picture also shows a bit of a potassium deficiency.

Lastly, here are the bud shots as we find ourselves on the eve of the 3 week point

 

[Jon]

Took a long time to read all 26 pages of this, but it was definitely time well spent. Caught up. WOW. I don't have enough superlatives for this.

How come you barely provide any detail in your journals?

 

[Emilya Green]

Took a long time to read all 26 pages of this, but it was definitely time well spent. Caught up. WOW. I don't have enough superlatives for this.

How come you barely provide any detail in your journals?

lol, thank you Jon. I guess I could attempt to track humidity and vpd and many other things... I just get lazy sometimes.

I want to clarify a point I have been subtly making the last few days...
Some signs of deficiencies are not things that need to be reacted to by the gardener; they are simply the signs of how something is being done. If these signs of apparent deficiencies that we are seeing here were moving up the trunk and more and more leaves were dropping, yes, I would be very concerned. The point is that when you understand why the plant is doing something because of where it is happening, the way the leaves are being taken is a simply a method to conserve the stored nutrients in high demand and not necessarily the signs of an actual deficiency.

 

[Jon]

lol, thank you Jon. I guess I could attempt to track humidity and vpd and many other things... I just get lazy sometimes.

I want to clarify a point I have been subtly making the last few days...
Some signs of deficiencies are not things that need to be reacted to by the gardener; they are simply the signs of how something is being done. If these signs of apparent deficiencies that we are seeing here were moving up the trunk and more and more leaves were dropping, yes, I would be very concerned. The point is that when you understand why the plant is doing something because of where it is happening, the way the leaves are being taken is a simply a method to conserve the stored nutrients in high demand and not necessarily the signs of an actual deficiency.

Not sure where in here I saw this, but at one point you said you had "surprised" the girls by waking them up 15 minutes early one day. I was wondering why did you do that? What was the point? And I guess as long as you wake them up earlier rather than later, thus extending rather than shortening their light cycle (only by 15 minutes, I get it), it's okay to do that? I'm trying to wrap my head around the reason why any interruption/disruption of the normal light cycle you're on is a good idea?

 

[Emilya Green]

Not sure where in here I saw this, but at one point you said you had "surprised" the girls by waking them up 15 minutes early one day. I was wondering why did you do that? What was the point? And I guess as long as you wake them up earlier rather than later, thus extending rather than shortening their light cycle (only by 15 minutes, I get it), it's okay to do that? I'm trying to wrap my head around the reason why any interruption/disruption of the normal light cycle you're on is a good idea?

I don't remember why I did this, but it must have been something important. 15 minutes is not a lot of time and it shouldn't make a difference to the plant as long as it didn't keep happening. To stay blooming the light needs to be on at least 10 hours, so there is a little leeway there. Or, let's consider the time changes... my electronic control system automatically adjusts the hour for daylight savings time and I used to freak, trying to keep the plants on the old timing. After a few times missing this adjustment and watching the plants adapt to the new time period with no problems, I realized that they didn't care about this as much as I did. No, its not good to change or disrupt their light pattern... but not every little change is a crisis either. Its more about that constant and annoying light leak that happens every night, that becomes a problem, but then again, not always. Consider also the plants outside dealing with the moon and car and residence lights... they manage to adapt too.

 

[HashGirl]

Here is a picture of potassium deficiency, and these leaves are very hard to find... maybe 3 or 4 in the entire room on just a few of the plants.

My girls show some of this, too but like you, I haven't been too worried about it as the rest of the plant looks healthy.

 

[Bud Love]

19-16 Go Chiefs— down with the 49’ers woohoo.
Great looking garden Emilya.

 

[Emilya Green]

Bloom - 3 weeks
Geoflora Feed - Day 13
Wet/Dry Cycle - Day 3
Number of fast waterings - 2
12 Days since last SNS Foliar, SNS 209 given on each watering
Length of Grow - 3 months, 4 days

Not much of an update tonight because we just walked in and I was not able to get it done during the lit up side of 12/12 since we left early this morning for a family function.

So tonight I will simply give you a flash shot of the group. Tomorrow is feeding day and a late watering so several of the timers will reset after we get done tomorrow.

As you can see from this nighttime money shot, everything appears to be fine.

 

[Trala]

Congratulations on your journal nomination, ladybird.

Em FTW

 

[LizardMate]

Proper rodneys

 

[HashGirl]

Congrats on your GJOM nomination, Emilya! #GirlPower

 

[Emilya Green]

Congrats on your GJOM, Emilya! #GirlPower

It is still just a nomination at this point as I am competing with some other very qualified nominees, where any one of us could still win this thing. I do appreciate you all noticing the contest and please do what you can to support all of the monthly contests... I ask you all to please take the time to go and check out all of the contender's journals: @Furcifer, @Jon, @Stormblessed and then go to 420 Magazine's Grow Journal of the Month: August 2021 to vote for the best one.

 

[Emilya Green]

Congratulations on your journal nomination, ladybird.

Em FTW

Talk about on fleek... lol, I watched Ms. J. signing the dialog that came with your last video, overacting all of the fawking comments... I about fell out of my chair laughing. Thank you for that, and the beautiful pictures. If I had to be locked down somewhere, please let it be around your pool.

 

[Trala]

Talk about on fleek... lol, I watched Ms. J. signing the dialog that came with your last video, overacting all of the fawking comments... I about fell out of my chair laughing. Thank you for that, and the beautiful pictures. If I had to be locked down somewhere, please let it be around your pool.

Good morning Emmybird

That made me giggle, I think we must swear much more than maybe other parts of the world, coz it’s just like regular language here. As you would have heard I type like I talk. But I’m getting better with the profanity-less typing, like look right there I just typed all those words and not one f bomb. LOLLINGGG

Honey you are always welcome, lockdown or no lockdown.

And your journal. I feel so proud of you. Your dedication to detail, and your passion when it comes to growing and willingness to share your knowledge is grow inspiring to learners like me.

You make me grow better

 

[Emilya Green]

Bloom - 3 weeks, 1 day
Geoflora Feed - Day 14
Wet/Dry Cycle - Day 4
Number of fast waterings - 0
13 Days since last SNS Foliar, SNS 209 given on each watering
Length of Grow - 3 months, 2 days

Here is the room today. One shot is across the top of the canopy to show the average height in relation to the Nextlight MEGA and then a couple of pan shots to show the new arrangement in the room.

Today was feeding day since the @GeoFlora Nutrients BLOOM have gone 2 weeks, so they each got 2/3 cup of nutrient dumped right on the top and watered in. I knew it was going to be close, but this feeding used up most of the bag of bloom that I have and I will need to order another for the 3rd and final feeding in bloom. This will be taken care of in the next two weeks and I will be ready for a spectacular finish and will have 2/3 of a bag left for the next grow.

I also note for those who love using calmag as a preventative, that I am not noting any cal or mag deficiencies anywhere in the room. It seems that even with these huge plants, the @GeoFlora Nutrients have that side of things well handled.

Here just to note it, is an indication of a potassium deficiency about halfway down from the top of the canopy. I have no explanation for this solitary complaint other than it is feeding day, and someone just wanted to complain... they are getting fed extra potassium with the Terpinator after all, and there should be no problems in this area.

I also note today that the @Sierra Natural Science SNS products are working as advertised. Now that I have taken out that last round of flyers with the PC, I am only seeing a random gnat here and there... the infestation has been wiped out! SNS 209 in the soil as a preventative has kicked in big time now and I don't believe that I am going to need to spray anything else; I have no bugs. In the veg room I am experimenting this time with 209 in the soil from the very start, and it seems to be working in there too because my normally gnat attacked solo cups also have no bugs. Hmm... I need to order another quart of 209 too... it is good stuff!

This watering was done on the long day this time (4 day wet/dry cycle), so this resets the 1 out of 4 waterings, and we will be returning to the 3 day schedule again, for the next 9 days. The plants were moved about in the room, this time with the shortest plants in the center of the light field for maximum PAR. The buds are building in a significant amount of trichomes now and they are starting to take on some significant size as they continue to build and fill in along the branches. I have also spotted some of the buds already taking on some color and I am assuming that these will be the purple pheno we have been seeing... at any rate we will be keeping a close eye on those.

See if you can spot that color on a couple of these bud shots as I close out this update. Have a great evening everyone!

 

[HashGirl]

Today was feeding day since the @GeoFlora Nutrients BLOOM have gone 2 weeks, so they each got 2/3 cup of nutrient dumped right on the top and watered in. I knew it was going to be close, but this feeding used up most of the bag of bloom that I have and I will need to order another for the 3rd and final feeding in bloom. This will be taken care of in the next two weeks and I will be ready for a spectacular finish and will have 2/3 of a bag left for the next grow.

Good morning, Emilya.

I know that you're following the GF feeding schedule but are you following it to a T? The reason I ask is because I just started Week 12 and the chart says to just add water going forward but my girls are only on Day 25 of flower. My last GSCs took 80 days to finish. Am I really supposed to only add water from now on?

My dates were as follows:

Week 00 - 1st week of June
Week 02 - Week of June 13th
Week 04 - Week of June 27th
Week 06 - Week of July 4th
Week 08 - Week of July 18th
Week 10 - 1st week of August

 

[Emilya Green]

Hi @HashGirl !

At 25 days into flower you are only 3 days ahead of me. Don't go by the total number of weeks of your grow because remember that the chart is assuming a 4 week veg and an 8 week bloom... we both vegged a bit longer than that, so we should have stayed on the veg half of the chart an extra 4 weeks. The way I understand it, they call for not feeding in the last 2 weeks of bloom. For our 12-16 week plants, that means that our feeding at the end of the 8 week bloom period will be the last one. The long running varieties like 12 week bloom sativas, are going to get fed a couple of more times than the chart shows on the bloom side and of course when you veg for longer than 4 weeks, there are also extra applications of the VEG product. In my case here, I am just into the 3rd week of bloom and I just fed the second time. So at the 5th week point, there is still plenty of time left in the grow and I will feed BLOOM for the 3rd time. If these were 6 week bloom plants, I would not feed again next time. My next scheduled feeding falls on the 1st day of the 7th week of bloom, but we are anticipating them to finish within that last two weeks, so they will not be fed then and we will go water only until harvest, anticipating about a week of water only. This sounds scary but I assure myself that with this feeding system there still has to be some mineral content left over and the microbes are not going to just all die off at the end of two weeks, so its not like we are cutting them off cold turkey at the end... we are just not wasting another round of expensive nutes when it is time to help them clean up a little and when they would not be able to take advantage of the 2 week feeding. I know, I know... I have always preached against starving our plants at the end, but this isn't quite the same as that, and I find that these days I am a middle aged dog trying to learn new tricks. My last grow finished out very nicely without getting that last hit of nutes and based on that result I am going to try it again.

 

[Jon]

Hi @HashGirl !

At 25 days into flower you are only 3 days ahead of me. Don't go by the total number of weeks of your grow because remember that the chart is assuming a 4 week veg and an 8 week bloom... we both vegged a bit longer than that, so we should have stayed on the veg half of the chart an extra 4 weeks. The way I understand it, they call for not feeding in the last 2 weeks of bloom. For our 12-16 week plants, that means that our feeding at the end of the 8 week bloom period will be the last one. The long running varieties like 12 week bloom sativas, are going to get fed a couple of more times than the chart shows on the bloom side and of course when you veg for longer than 4 weeks, there are also extra applications of the VEG product. In my case here, I am just into the 3rd week of bloom and I just fed the second time. So at the 5th week point, there is still plenty of time left in the grow and I will feed BLOOM for the 3rd time. If these were 6 week bloom plants, I would not feed again next time. My next scheduled feeding falls on the 1st day of the 7th week of bloom, but we are anticipating them to finish within that last two weeks, so they will not be fed then and we will go water only until harvest, anticipating about a week of water only. This sounds scary but I assure myself that with this feeding system there still has to be some mineral content left over and the microbes are not going to just all die off at the end of two weeks, so its not like we are cutting them off cold turkey at the end... we are just not wasting another round of expensive nutes when it is time to help them clean up a little and when they would not be able to take advantage of the 2 week feeding. I know, I know... I have always preached against starving our plants at the end, but this isn't quite the same as that, and I find that these days I am a middle aged dog trying to learn new tricks. My last grow finished out very nicely without getting that last hit of nutes and based on that result I am going to try it again.

Good morning @HashGirl and @Emilya. Interesting conversation. Useful. So you guys are both using the Geoflora. Seems as if a lot of people are getting really good results with this. I would like to try it next time. I'm wondering if either of you might have any input on whether or not these nutes would work well in my Fox Farms soil mix? And as the feeding chart is set up perfectly it appears for mixing in increments designed for a 10 gallon pot, could I use the Fox Farms soil mix and grow one plant in a ten gallon pot (with uppotting Dixie > One > Five > Ten) in my 5x5? Or does this soil work with only the organic blends type soil mixture like Emilya (and others) use? Sorry, if this is not the place for this question can you please redirect me/it? Thanks you guys very much. And yes, I can read, lol, I just know I'll get more accurate info about this here than on a website.