I feel your pain. Are your colas solid or fluffy?
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I feel your pain. Are your colas solid or fluffy?
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I have a mix of both. The healthy branches have denser flowers for sure.
Have you considered yo-yos rather than cages? Much easier to get to everything and keeps the branches supported individually rather than pulled close to their neighbors.
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Uhhh...no I haven't. I will need to go look that up. Thanks for the heads up.
I was going to try and just put in poles where they are needed. Then tie them where needed. Is that a yo-yo?! I honestly don't know. I was hoping to get to it today but couldn't before lights out. Been working all weekend. Another 7 day stretch...I'll be in and out throughout the week the best I can. I'm really intrigued about trying the drought on a couple of my plants. They hit 7 weeks today and were due for a drench. I decided not to until I could get some insight. I'm thinking of doing a drought on two and not on the other two.
Another one on the drought test train! How many weeks do you expect these to go? I think the droughting should be done so it ends about a week before projected harvest ( @Maritimer can you confirm that?). I know that he does his in plastic buckets (and I would guess that Caplan was in plastic pots as well). Plastic will slow down the drying process and make it so almost all the water loss would be up into the plant (rather than evaporation off the sides...something else I didn't consider in my test).
If you do it, tag the leaves you want to measure the LWA of (I didn't!) and tag a flower get get before/after pics of the trichomes for comparison's sake.
Yo-yo's:
If you do it, tag the leaves you want to measure the LWA of (I didn't!) and tag a flower get get before/after pics of the trichomes for comparison's sake.
Yo-yo's:
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Hmmm...OK. so I have seen them in practice in your photos and a few others. How would those work if I am rotating the plants? Only reason I am rotating is my uneven canopy on most of the plants. They are getting some stakes tonight since they needed something done about 2 weeks ago. That actually translates in stoner time to right on time!
Also...where the hell do I buy those? I'd like to try them but not sure how to approach using them. Thanks again.
Also...where the hell do I buy those? I'd like to try them but not sure how to approach using them. Thanks again.
Not my photos, but you can get them at Amazon. And when you rotate you can unhook and rehook in the new location!
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Day 50 since flip
@BESTVA LED is killing it with the Pro4000! #7 & #3 are directly under it. Could not recommend it enough for someone looking for a great value light from lower wattage to the higher wattage.
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So I needed to get into the tent and support a lot of branches. I was able to get most of it done.
I know a couple of them aren't too pretty. I have made mistakes along the way. But I am learning and I do think it says a lot of the strong genetics from @Weed Seeds Express. Even an indoor newbie can still grow some nice plants.
I definitely cost myself yield with the mistakes but for my first indoor grow, I'm still stoked every time I open up the tent. Trying to focus on reading and learning from other journals...and retain it.
Ok...let's get the ugly ducklings out of the way. #1 was the worst of the bunch. Super droopy but looking better. There is A LOT of larf and branches I should have chopped many weeks ago. A part of learning the growth of this plant i suppose. I got a little bud greedy and saw quantity over quality.
Next is #9 which was also needing a bunch of help.
#3 is doing pretty good. Absolutely would have put out some much larger colas had I been a bit more aggressive with my early pruning.
Mostly cloudy trichomes on all the plants. Sample of #3
#7 is definitely the shining star and is gorgeous. She's eating up nutrients in her leaves. Also, more samples of the mostly cloudy trichomes.
@BESTVA LED is killing it with the Pro4000! #7 & #3 are directly under it. Could not recommend it enough for someone looking for a great value light from lower wattage to the higher wattage.
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So I needed to get into the tent and support a lot of branches. I was able to get most of it done.
I know a couple of them aren't too pretty. I have made mistakes along the way. But I am learning and I do think it says a lot of the strong genetics from @Weed Seeds Express. Even an indoor newbie can still grow some nice plants.
I definitely cost myself yield with the mistakes but for my first indoor grow, I'm still stoked every time I open up the tent. Trying to focus on reading and learning from other journals...and retain it.
Ok...let's get the ugly ducklings out of the way. #1 was the worst of the bunch. Super droopy but looking better. There is A LOT of larf and branches I should have chopped many weeks ago. A part of learning the growth of this plant i suppose. I got a little bud greedy and saw quantity over quality.
Next is #9 which was also needing a bunch of help.
#3 is doing pretty good. Absolutely would have put out some much larger colas had I been a bit more aggressive with my early pruning.
Mostly cloudy trichomes on all the plants. Sample of #3
#7 is definitely the shining star and is gorgeous. She's eating up nutrients in her leaves. Also, more samples of the mostly cloudy trichomes.
I like the idea of yo-yos but I bring my plants out of the tent everytime I feed them so I always figured they were out of the question for me.
Looking hungry! Is that something you were going for? Also, how much amber will you be waiting for before pulling out the ax?
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They are definitely hungry. I agree. Part of the problems/mistakes I had was not working in the top dressings in enough and not watering them in enough.
So I'm tempted to at least let them go for another couple weeks. I would like strong sedating effects so I'm going to push it out as long as I can.
Here is an issue I had last night. Speaking of watering and as you mentioned, pick up the pot and feel the weight. Yes, I agree that it should be THAT simple. To me, right now, they look hungry which means I need to water in order to get some additional moisture into the granules and speed up the breakdown process. BUT they are all still feeling substantially heavy. Yesterday, they looked thirsty and hungry to me. I was going to drought them just for the hell of it but now thinking I want to let them go for a couple more weeks that I should just drench them and come up with a better drought game plan for closer to harvest or save it for another round.
Have you been sticking with the two week schedule with the amount on the chart or feeding more/more often as they recommended for plants that look hungry? I wouldn't want to water a wet pot in the hopes the food gets down there, as water-logged roots have a hard time taking up any nutrients.
Can you get a few fans on the floor to dry the pots out more quickly, and get them up on racks and off the trays? That might speed things up a bit. Turning up the dehuey (not sure you ever got one...) will help too.
If they've slowed down the drinking a lot they're probably too close to harvest to bother trying to green up though.
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Yes, I have stuck to the 2 week top dress schedule since the beginning. I know there was a lot of confusion in the beginning regarding the dosage rates. I stuck with their liquid ounce of granules per gallon of soil. That translated to roughly a 5% higher rate than was updated in their chart. Knowing they are heavy feeders and being organic, I figured having the extra nutrients there wouldn't hurt any.
I agree about the watering Shed. That's why I haven't given them anything since last Friday. I want to but with the weight in those pots, I just can't. Another heavy drench could ruin roots real quick. So as easy as watering can seem at times, it can be tricky for us newbies when we don't understand WHY they slowed down. They were humming along and I thought for sure I had a couple weeks left.
They've slowed down considerably after the last drench which was less than a week ago. I did NOT topdress last weekend either. I'm gambling that there is still enough that needs to get worked down into the soil. I've been trying to work it down slowly by using a chopstick in the top inch or two and aerating it hoping granules will fall in and slowly increase the nutrients. Instructions were to stop 2 weeks prior to harvest. I was 4 weeks out but with a considerable amount of topdress from the previous applications.
I have not done that yet. Someone else recommended that and then I also read somewhere that folks leave them on the tray to soak up the runoff.
The AC unit is a dehuey by default. I currently have it running on a schedule. I have it set for 75° while lights on and when lights off, it turns off for a few hours. Then in the evening it turns back on in dry mode and keep RH below 50% for the rest of the night until lights on. During the day, the RH has been averaging mid 40s up to mid 50s. I'm still running into ventilation issues with my lung room but it's working. Not the best setup but I'm slowly getting dialed in I think.
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Quick screenshot of the past 24 hours. Also includes the soil moisture meter in GSC #1 which is a fabric pot. It has been amazing to track its consumption since I installed these. Using them simply as a tool for data for now. Eventually, my goal is to have them dialed in and calibrated enough to show me true moisture levels. As a reference for now, it works decently.
That spike is when I opened up the tent to work on supporting the branches. Sucked in a bunch of hot air from the lung room.
That spike is when I opened up the tent to work on supporting the branches. Sucked in a bunch of hot air from the lung room.
Feel free to bump that up to 80º! The plants won't mind and they'll dry out faster too.
Plants like a 10º swing in temps from lights on to off, and 75 means the low would be 65, which is at least 5º colder than ideal. 80-70 would probably serve you better.
If your plants soak up the runoff then the bottoms are getting staying wet when they would normally start the drying process. Always keep your bottoms dry, organic or synthetic. As little runoff as possible though with GF, per their instructions here:
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I had heard about the 10° swing. I'll make changes to the temp right now.
I don't get a bunch of runoff. As soon as I see a little, I back off and wait until it's soaked up and then start watering again. I do remember seeing the minimizing runoff. I will get something underneath them.
Don't start watering again at that point, stop watering!
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No...I meant when I water too fast and the soil hasn't been irrigated for a while. Sometimes the water just rushes through. I will wait 10-30 minutes to let that water absorb. Then I will water again. Then I stop when I see real runoff from a deep drench.
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Here are some screenshots of parameters for the past week inside the tent.
Fresh air intake
Tent Temps - base of plants (lower canopy)
So even though the AC is set to 75° it still hits over 80° often during the days.
GSC #1 Soil Moisture since the last drench.
Fresh air intake
Tent Temps - base of plants (lower canopy)
So even though the AC is set to 75° it still hits over 80° often during the days.
GSC #1 Soil Moisture since the last drench.
How dry do you let them get that they are hydrophobic when you next water them? Certainly not that dry in flower I hope!