Your experience with TRF's, while interesting, is not really a good indicator for what they can or can't do. Your environment was extreme, to say the least.
Your plants were not able to flower...not normal.
The only conclusion we "might" be able to draw from your grow is that in really extreme, 95+ degree temps, Dynamite works better than OC+.
But that really isn't a good way to grow weed.
Doc, if we all had to grow weed in good conditions, it would be $1000oz LOL.
I'm having issues with OC+ too. Irish is just putting out his experiences. You may have happened to have all your stuff set up for a great OC grow ( which was very nice I must add), but not everybody has the time, money or expertise to do that. Doesn't mean that bad results should be ignored or swept under the rug. I want to know the bad shit, too.
OC+ worked like magic for me....and I got to see, taste and touch some LED grown weed, grown in perlite and OC+ only.....no other nutes. It was dense, sticky, smelly, and very, very nice.
NPK is NPK. Micro's are micro's.
I don't really think that's true. Scott's is a big company with a bottom line. I'd bet that all nute companies don't get their ingredients from the same place. I'd also bet that some companies put stuff in their mixes that aren't as good as another company's. I'll bet that some even buy from the cheapest vendor they can find?
Plus, no TRF I've seen is made for pot. I think it's just lucky that it works well with it in any case.
OC+ has a better profile than DM.....but DM may release differently at temps. They should both be nearly indistinguishable from eachother in a more reasonable environment.
I'm sticking with CRF's....OC+ is my choice for now.
In my current grow, in which the environment is absolutely perfect, the OC+ plants are outperforming the all organic plants. All the plants are healthy and gorgeous.....but the OC+ are bigger and a bit greener.
Don't let your experience with either product bring you to any conclusions at all.....it's a wonder your plants grew at all, considering the extreme temps you had to deal with.
This guy is a pretty grower to pull this one out, I put a lot of stock in his observations, and you don't seem like a guy who keeps doing stuff that doesn't workAnecdotal info is pretty much what gets passed around here, take what you want and leave the rest, eh?
As things cool down, you will find the OC+ does just fine....but neither of us know what the abuse did to your plants. Don't blame it on nutes....temps were the obvious trouble.
In a good situation for OC, it apparently works well, in not so good ones it doesn't. All along Irish has been acknowledging his heat issue, I never got the impression he was blaming it on the nutes... just giving a heads up on another possibilty.
OC+ doesn't work well with a high TA, either. Tweak, tweak, tweak.
just sharing what i see.
but were talking about OC+ and DM? I have no doubt that OC+ would do better then the organic plants you have.
I do it every year in these temps and pull nice buds.
.I wouldn't want anyone to delete what's going on in their grow room is, so no worries bro. Every data point is a small piece of the puzzle.
Your negative results with OC are a single data point, and my positive results with OC are a single data point. There are a lot of other variables at play, so I don't put much stock in either OC's poor showing in your grow, nor it's success in my grow.
I'm hoping more growers use them and then report their results, so that we see how different CRF's work in different environments, like high temps, hard water, different media, etc., but at this point, *I* would not jump to any *firm* conclusions.
Doesn't mean I'm not payin' attention
.well said brother.yeah, Dynamite knows whattup
peeps, I don't have any strong enough emotional investments or attachments to any products used to grow marijuana for it to offend me when people disagree with me.
in light of the bigger picture, I'm not gonna trip on stuff like dat.
guess what??
I just saved allot of money switching my grow insurance to TRF.
well said brother.
everyone has their own opinions, and thats a good thing.we will all have are own differences. some like Fords some like Chevy's, some like GH some like AN, it dosent matter. the thing that counts is that we all work together help each other out and learn stuff while we do it. we all here to do one thing! grow killer fat buds and learn. i could care less witch company dose better as long as i get good buds i am happy
guess what??
I just saved allot of money switching my grow insurance to TRF.
well said brother.
everyone has their own opinions, and thats a good thing.we will all have are own differences. some like Fords some like Chevy's, some like GH some like AN, it dosent matter. the thing that counts is that we all work together help each other out and learn stuff while we do it. we all here to do one thing! grow killer fat buds and learn. i could care less witch company dose better as long as i get good buds i am happy
guess what??
I just saved allot of money switching my grow insurance to TRF.
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