300W LED vs. 400W HID Demonstration
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Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
SS, You always say it best! Well said! Common sense!
-GO
I don't need *any* of my gadgets to take a grow from start to finish, but I've always liked them.
My "gold standard" are my senses, but it's very possible that a gadget could be more accurate, so if there is a significant discrepancy between what my senses are telling me and what the gadget is telling me, it gives me an opportunity to investigate which is more accurate, and either label the gadget a worthless piece of crap, or make the mental and/or physical adjustments that will improve my grows.
Just because my plants aren't showing any stress doesn't mean that I have my light as low as it can go. I bleached some buds recently because the only tool I had to learn safe limits was playing with the light height. Maybe I could have avoided the bleaching by using an IR thermometer to read plant stress, especially with a light I've never used before.
I've just used common sense to set up my ventilation fans. Cannabis likes the same weather conditions we like, and we don't like having strong wind blowing at us for most or all of the day, so I set my fans up so that the leaves are just lightly fluttering.
Heavy buds, it's a good problem
SS, You always say it best! Well said! Common sense!
-GO
Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
Slimm's grow on this website was 50/50 coco/perlite, but had some excellent info.
Slimm's Urban Hang Suite
Thanks for the tip SS, I thought maybe there was a thread here about coco and hempy that I was missing. But the google search proved worthy.
Slimm's grow on this website was 50/50 coco/perlite, but had some excellent info.
Slimm's Urban Hang Suite
Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
allright peeps, I'm outa here for the next 3-4 days on family business.
I'll do an update and get caught up as soon as I can when I get back.
thanks for all the great info and discussion!
allright peeps, I'm outa here for the next 3-4 days on family business.
I'll do an update and get caught up as soon as I can when I get back.
thanks for all the great info and discussion!
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Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
Stay safe, and high
Stay safe, and high
Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
What a great journal!
Seriously, this thread is like taking a class in college. So much very cool stuff being shared.
Did I ever mention how much fun it is to grow? I'm addicted to growing!!!
What a great journal!
Seriously, this thread is like taking a class in college. So much very cool stuff being shared.
Did I ever mention how much fun it is to grow? I'm addicted to growing!!!
Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
thank you bros.
Stay safe, and high
thank you bros
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Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
thanks buddy!
I'm afraid we share the same malady
What a great journal!
Seriously, this thread is like taking a class in college. So much very cool stuff being shared.
Did I ever mention how much fun it is to grow? I'm addicted to growing!!!
thanks buddy!
I'm afraid we share the same malady
Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
I'm back home and everything's good.
The mom survived fine in her Hempy bucket, just beginning to wilt. I wasn't able to take the second set of cuts before I left, so I just LST her some more to keep her from growing into the light in my absence.
I'll take at least 8 cuts tonight when the lights come on and put them in coco-filled mini hempy cups.
The existing clones from the mother that expired from stem rot are fine also. The coco in those 5" pots looked the same as when I left. I love this stuff. I see new growth in pretty much all of them. I can't take pics till tonite because I switched them from 24/24 to 18/6.
I have enough identical clones now to do the comparison, but I'll take the second set from this mom and see how they do. I still have a couple weeks or so until both tents become available for the next grow.
I'm back home and everything's good.
The mom survived fine in her Hempy bucket, just beginning to wilt. I wasn't able to take the second set of cuts before I left, so I just LST her some more to keep her from growing into the light in my absence.
I'll take at least 8 cuts tonight when the lights come on and put them in coco-filled mini hempy cups.
The existing clones from the mother that expired from stem rot are fine also. The coco in those 5" pots looked the same as when I left
. I love this stuff. I see new growth in pretty much all of them. I can't take pics till tonite because I switched them from 24/24 to 18/6.I have enough identical clones now to do the comparison, but I'll take the second set from this mom and see how they do. I still have a couple weeks or so until both tents become available for the next grow.
Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
I'm usually thinking of a nice gentle tropical breeze when I set the fans up or adjust them, but tai chi works too.
I don't use fans to strengthen seedling stems. I like to do that by flicking them around a few times whenever I visit. I think this causes a lot of micro-fractures and the stems thicken in response. Not sure what the mechanism is, but it works.
Once you've played with professional toys, you're spoiled for life.
I'm really curious as to how legalization will impact research. Actually, I'm really curious as to how legalization will impact pretty much everything, lol.
Vicky is voluptuous and closer to being done than I thought, based on checking trichs. Those thick stems didn't need much support except for a couple of lower branches that kept gettin' lower and lower.
These plants did get some silica feedings in veg, so maybe that helped too.
thanks b
You know, with all of that airflow, the leaves don't move, [room design.] That's why I have the small vortex fan, just to move the leaves gently, kinda like tai chi for leaves.
I'm usually thinking of a nice gentle tropical breeze when I set the fans up or adjust them, but tai chi works too.
I don't use fans to strengthen seedling stems. I like to do that by flicking them around a few times whenever I visit. I think this causes a lot of micro-fractures and the stems thicken in response. Not sure what the mechanism is, but it works.
Senses and experience are King, the toys are good objective corroborators. The toys we had in the lab were a spoiler for me, heaven help me if I every win the Lotto. Good luck with Vicky, she seems kinda topheavy for such a young girl, maybe you could get her a sports bra or something,
Once you've played with professional toys, you're spoiled for life.
I'm really curious as to how legalization will impact research. Actually, I'm really curious as to how legalization will impact pretty much everything, lol.
Vicky is voluptuous and closer to being done than I thought, based on checking trichs. Those thick stems didn't need much support except for a couple of lower branches that kept gettin' lower and lower.
These plants did get some silica feedings in veg, so maybe that helped too.
thanks b
Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
thanks bro
Welcome back brother, glad all is well.
thanks bro
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thank you Go
There's rose pots at around 1.75gal, which are square and have regular bottom holes, and rose buckets with no holes, which are what they use to deliver cut flowers to grocery stores.
The square rose pots are space-efficient, but a little too tippy for my taste. My grow room isn't big, so I bump into stuff and I like containers with a lower center of gravity.
The rose buckets, however, at 10-liters or 2.6 gallons, aren't as space efficient, but they aren't tippy, and the size of the res with these buckets, once you drill the damn hole, allows for reasonable watering intervals.
Doc and I got our rose buckets for free at Trader Joe's, Von's, etc., so when you hear us say "rose bucket", we're talking about the round 10-liter no-hole buckets they use to deliver cut flowers to supermarkets.
Well Said B.
Welcome Back SS!
Didn't we conclude the rose-buckets were too top heavy and not easy to maintain?
WOOT WOOT
-Go
thank you Go
There's rose pots at around 1.75gal, which are square and have regular bottom holes, and rose buckets with no holes, which are what they use to deliver cut flowers to grocery stores.
The square rose pots are space-efficient, but a little too tippy for my taste. My grow room isn't big, so I bump into stuff and I like containers with a lower center of gravity.
The rose buckets, however, at 10-liters or 2.6 gallons, aren't as space efficient, but they aren't tippy, and the size of the res with these buckets, once you drill the damn hole, allows for reasonable watering intervals.
Doc and I got our rose buckets for free at Trader Joe's, Von's, etc., so when you hear us say "rose bucket", we're talking about the round 10-liter no-hole buckets they use to deliver cut flowers to supermarkets.
Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
I was too tired last night to take the second set of cuts, so I'll shoot for the end of today's cycle.
thanks for the tip, bel!
If you're in a position to try this, give it a thought. I cut mine right b4 the lights go out. If you can cut some at the beginning AND end of the cycles, you may see a difference. At the end of the cycle, they are full of sucrose from photosynthesis, which can be used in the dark to start root formation. At the beginning of the cycle, they get a whole light cycle with the attendant heat and transpirational stresses [photsynthesis-transpiraton compromise] right after being cut.
just a thought.......
b
I was too tired last night to take the second set of cuts, so I'll shoot for the end of today's cycle.
thanks for the tip, bel!
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thank you
yeah, if something goes whack, it's nice to have some idea of what it could be, lol
Just read last night about many dutch growers evolving to using 50/50 hydroton/coco, so it sounds like a winning combo. I'd like a maximum watering interval, so I want to use 100% coco and see how that works.
I choose the system and medium because it suits how I want to live my life, not because of any possible yield increases.
I dunno, coco aerates very well already, but there must be a reason why those dutch growers wound up adding it in.
Watering is automated for commercial growers, so that's not a concern for them. They might have found that adding the pebbles increased yield somewhat.
For me, watering interval is more important.
thanks bro
thank you
yeah, if something goes whack, it's nice to have some idea of what it could be, lol
Just read last night about many dutch growers evolving to using 50/50 hydroton/coco, so it sounds like a winning combo. I'd like a maximum watering interval, so I want to use 100% coco and see how that works.
I choose the system and medium because it suits how I want to live my life, not because of any possible yield increases.
I dunno, coco aerates very well already, but there must be a reason why those dutch growers wound up adding it in.
Watering is automated for commercial growers, so that's not a concern for them. They might have found that adding the pebbles increased yield somewhat.
For me, watering interval is more important.
thanks bro
Re: 420 Cannasumer Reports Competition - GrowLEDHydro 300w LED vs. 400w HID
Mom needs to be pruned bad. I'll get to it asap. Looks like she's throwing a few preflowers on the main cola on 18/6. Timer is OK. What's up with dat?
Should I change to 19/5 or 20/4?
Using a Lights of America 65w 6500k CFL security light now. This set of clones, except for the two flowering clones (right column, top two) were taken from the mom on the right above. She was very healthy and slightly ahead in growth until the stem rot. All the clones are showing new growth and good vitality. In the left column, middle two, one of them was the top of the plant, with a very short stem, and the other just a very small cut. I think they've both rooted, but their growth seems slower.
The coco finally dried out and I fed them last night with 1 tsp FF Grow Big Hydro with PH adjusted to 5.8.
They look happy in their coco, and ready to go, but I still want to take a second set in coco cups instead of the Rapid Rooters.
I like cloning, a lot. Adding this skill is going to give me tons more flexibility, and save me some money too.
peeps!
Mom needs to be pruned bad. I'll get to it asap. Looks like she's throwing a few preflowers on the main cola on 18/6. Timer is OK. What's up with dat?
Should I change to 19/5 or 20/4?
Using a Lights of America 65w 6500k CFL security light now. This set of clones, except for the two flowering clones (right column, top two) were taken from the mom on the right above. She was very healthy and slightly ahead in growth until the stem rot. All the clones are showing new growth and good vitality. In the left column, middle two, one of them was the top of the plant, with a very short stem, and the other just a very small cut. I think they've both rooted, but their growth seems slower.
The coco finally dried out and I fed them last night with 1 tsp FF Grow Big Hydro with PH adjusted to 5.8.
They look happy in their coco, and ready to go, but I still want to take a second set in coco cups instead of the Rapid Rooters.
I like cloning, a lot. Adding this skill is going to give me tons more flexibility, and save me some money too.
peeps!
