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no grow tent will be 100% light proof out of the box, but they will be close. Some might leak light through the zippers or flaps and almost all will have pin hole leaks that can be taped over. check out this Grow Tent Review. it's a really nice in depth review of several tents on the market and they disclose all of the pros and cons of each tent including whether or not they are light proof.
Going to be a sick journal started a few days ago and your already on page 10 LMAO count me in my man.
Voted and now your at 50%
The tent is definitely the way to go. As seen with Mike's SLH I think the reflective surface helped allot.
I have a 4 x 19 x 53 lighthouse grow tent. These tents are very well made they have heavy duty zippers and reinforced vent holes and so on. Now I was shipped the wrong tent, I had ordered the 4 x 24 x 53. Nevertheless the tent I got is very well made, but after getting it all set up and light on I could see some light escaping. There were two pin holes on the left side and two on the right side. Inside the tent there are two pockets on either side. This is where the holes are. I think it must have been when the tent was sewn. I just put some duct tape over it. Other than that there are flaps that cover the zippers up. Now every tent is made differently so you will need to do some research first. Someone put up a link for tent reviews that is a good place to start. So I would say that my tent is now 99.9% light proof.
I had major heat problems from the beginning. All I had for an exhaust was a 180cfm duct fan. So what I did was take a water/ice fan {kind of like a swamp cooler and portable A/C unit} that I had and constructed a 4in connector to it and then to the tent. So I was blowing the cold air into the tent and this worked fine for a while until the plants started to smell oh so good to me, but not my wife. I ended up moving the tent to another closet in the house. This time I bought a 6in carbon filter fan combo for it. I ran it up into the attic and out through the eve vents. This is working out much better. The temps in the room lets say are 77F when I turn on the fan I can get it to 70F if I want to. Because of the air movement I can get lower temps. This may not sound right, but it works. I can also hook back up the water/ice fan and get even lower temps. This will help when the temps get over 100F here.
Not sure if I would vent the A/C exhaust back into the room all that hot air will go into the tent. IMO. If you could exhaust to a window, attic, bathroom exhaust, or something that would be your best bet.
Yes the better tents do block out some of the radiant heat. You can also get a material that blocks out radiant heat, they sell it at home depot. Some people put it over there HID lights to block out the FLIR {forward looking Infrared Radar} from helicopters. Click
nevergetbusted — January 04, 2009 — Barry Cooper explains how police use FLIR technology to look for heat signatures.
Whatever you end up doing I know you will have a GREAT grow!!
Ok so im trying to learn more about lst now.
It seems like lst'd plants usually end up with the center of the plant not directly above the center of the pot. I was thinking this could make it hard to spin the pots if you are in a tight spot, you know, to expose another side of the plant to more direct light.
So i was thinking, why not plant your babies closer to the edge of the pot and bend them across towards the other side of the pot?
it shouldn't hurt the roots right?
Is there a reason it shouldn't be done, or is it just not necessary?
Yes! A well ventilated tent will indeed be cooler than the ambient air of the room it's in. I have contant airflow in my tent and have to turn on a space heater during lights-off in order to keep temps from falling too low. Of course, as mentioned previously, it's a huge help if you can find a source of cool air for your intake. I refitted the access cover to my home's crawl space and get my fresh air from under the house. Definitely helps.
And, Irish, I'm sure you're already doing this but just to be sure, you're running the lights when it's nighttime and a bit cooler outside?
I have a question for those you know all about ventilation? witch should be bigger the intake or the exhaust or both equal? my intake is 135cfm and my exhaust is 293cfm. and i think thats the problem i am having. i think my exhaust is creating a suction from air leaks around my water heater since the air flow coming in is weaker. i need some help on this from someone who knows their shit about intake and exhaust.
Hiya, just poking in. Some interesting topics of convo.
Re the FLIR. Two things he mentions in that video, but doesn't really focus on, and one he completely neglects.
1 - FLIR can not see through anything. For some of them, this includes fog. It can not even see through clear glass. The advertisement for those grow tents that show a FLIR gun being blocked are pointless as far as security. You could put a sheet of glass, cloth, paper, tinfoil, saran wrap, or anything else in front of the camera and it would not be able to see through it. If you have a tent inside a room - the FLIR will never see the tent - let alone what's inside it. Look at the video as he's driving down the street. You can't see into a single window. They are looking for heat signatures. He does a good job of touching on this, but I think that's the most important thing and he doesn't spend enough time. Just make sure to spread your heat signature. In the summer heat ducted to an attic crawlspace will be unnoticable, but heat coming from under the house will be obvious. In the winter, heat in a crawlspace may need to be dispersed.
2 - They need a search warrant to use FLIR or Microwave. But not on un-attached buildings. That's in the video, but I don't think he makes a big enough deal about it. To get a search warrant they need 3 pieces of circumstantial evidence. This could be excessive electricity bills, combined with Grodan and Hydroton bags found in the trash, combined with a neighbor or cop who claims they smell something. But the point is don't give them these opportunities.
3 - Microwave cameras. FLIR stands for Forward Looking Infra-Red Device. There are other cameras that can "see through" walls that are not infra-red based. These will not be stopped by thermal barriers. These are much more expensive, still very rare, and certainly require a warrant to be used.
That's it for my spiel on FLIR. I have seen many people get a tent then duct it right to a window or wall and think that's safe. Unless it looks like a normal portable A/C that's ducted out a window, your tent is is not helping your cause at all if you do this.
Last but not least - as far as fans and cooling in a tent. Remember that fans can only bring the air to the ambient temperature of their intake. Fans do not lower the temp. If you stand in 80 degree weather and put a fan on you - the air blowing over you is still 80 degrees. You feel cooler because the increased airflow increases transpiration and you sweat out some heat.
I'm not really sure whether any of that has any bearing on anything, but I'm well medicated and felt like throwing in my 2 cents.
The more I think about this grow - the more I agree with you that ambient heat is offset by the condition of the soil. Do you think your soil inside will remain cool, or will it eventually rise to the 90-100 temp of the room? And when you grow outside, do you think the fact that in the ground the plants have cooler dirt is helping?
this depends on where your fans are and what direction they are going...
you almost certainly want a larger exhaust and smaller intake (this will create negative pressure in the tent and much more equal airflow)
Most will put fans blowing out only ..no real need for intake fans in most cases ..especially if you get one big fan (the grolabs tents allow for 3 different placements of large vortex type fans).
get one ..blow it out ... unless of course you have a cooler room somewhere that yon can bring air into the tent from.
Im using a growlab 145 ... its pretty good ...only have had to stick stuff in the drawstring holes that i don't use. there isn't enough light coming in to do anything with... its actually darker in there than it is outside in the middle of a forest with a full moon and clear sky.
you dont need an intake fan...if anything several much smaller intake fans are ok and one big exhaust
if you have the same size or one of each ..the moving air will follow the path of least resistance ...in other words ..it will come in through one fan and straight out the other fan without circulating.
one good exhaust fan and it will suck so hard on your tent it will bulge inward like your gf's cheeks sucking on your you know
so are you talking about a room or are you talking about a tent inside a room...well obviously if you are taking air from one cooler room and putting it in a warmer room it naturally will cool down ..
if you are talking about sucking from the room a tent is in ..there will be no cooling other than bringing the tent within 10 degrees of the room its in.
Ya Ya it's settled. Hot plants with cool feet equals Happy Plants!
Got to work today and my co-worker asked me how soon I was gonna get my light. Then he said how about in the next couple of weeks?
He laughed and said he talked to Mike and gots 3 180s inbound and 1s mine! (I'll start with 1 and grab 2 more Oct wink-wink).
Anyways, Reps+ (tanks Viper for showing me the Rep thing) cause I would never have gone LED without your unsolicited/unbiased write ups.
Go Inferno grow!