1080w LED Inferno

[IrishBoy]

Hello Irish, a little late to the party, but very glad I found it. As usual you get all the smart people to your journal, including yourself of course. Your journals always have the most amazing information. Will stay tuned for sure... + rep

hey glade you could join us! yes every one here kicks ass, 420mag serious smart growers that know their shit. I am very thankful that smart good people like everyone here you give me an helping hand with my heat trouble. and share their info with me and others

 

[IrishBoy]

Count me in, the last thread was AWESOME. I expect this one to be STELLAR!! I wish you luck and may the Ganja Gods be with you my friend. GL

welcome and thank you very much my friend! very kind words

 

[IrishBoy]

If you can figure it out without the tent and save $$$ thats cool. But it will be easier to control the temps in a smaller space (tent).Also the reflective surface inside the tent is a +. But I hear you on saving the money $hit gets expensive! You know your room the best though so I'm sure whatever you decide will work just fine. I think it was already mentioned but properly insulating the water heater would help with some of the heat too.

ya i here you. i would love to have a tent. but i rather save some money i put it into ventilation because thats the most important to me right now. I rather wait to buy a tent until i move that way i can buy the 7' tent and do it right. the 4' one witch i would have to buy for my room is pushing it.

 

[PitViper]

I started the LED grow today
LED in the VipersNest

 

[IrishBoy]

Man is that scary!! Thats a cool day? WOW !! There are 2 things that will help with heat issues, they are carbs and silica supplement.

Carbohydrates : Carbs help process light/heat faster. Heat forces the plant to try and keep up with transpiration. Which is done through photosynthesis, and the way to help with this is using carbohydrates. Carbs help to supplement the HUGE amount of sugars being used by the plant. With the stomata be forced to work overtime and the cellulose of the plant on the brink of collapsing due to a low RH, these items have to be supplemented. Using or increasing carbohydrates will help to level the plant off.

Silica : Silicate helps strengthen plant tissue which in turn helps plants flourish in adverse environmental conditions such as heat, drought, and frost.

Can you give a quick breakdown of the grow area?

i have some carbs i am planing on using. i know it helps and so do silicate. i am using GH pineapple rush and Dyna-Gro- Pro-tekt silicate. I am also thinking of using the Humboldt's Honey ES.

my question is should i use the Carbs in veg? Ive only used them in flower, but since my heat is crazy should i feed them in veg to?

the grow room is about 6'x8-10'x8'. it has a water heater the is ducted to the celling, then i have an intake hole that runs straight out side, and i was exhausting into the attic but that was creating a vac effect so what i did was drill a hole threw my door and vent into a cooler room that gets good air flow.

 

[IrishBoy]

If you research the process of carbs you can find studies in which this has been proven. I have experimented with carbs for the last year. And have devlopede what I call it "Carb Stacking". Its where you actually double the intake of carbs provided to your plants. I average 4 tsp. per gallon. 2 A.N's Carboload ( see below ) and 2 of Gen. Hydro. Flora-Nectar. (see below)

I hope this gives you more information on the process of carbs in plant life. I stand by my study of "Carb Stacking". I've achieved some of the most potent flowers I've ever grown using this method and have not stop using it since I first started.

yup this is why i use carbs, the GH works great! never used the AN before and i have never stacked the carbs but i like this idea. I really want to try the Humboldt's Honey ES ive heard great things about it and its very thick and not watered down.

As always Butcher you have great solid info. its my pleasure to have you on my thread

 

[IrishBoy]

Mkk just finished watching the video, does anyone know the name of this material one can buy at Home depot? Thanks in advance

OO and irish i voted for your nug my friend

sorry bro i dont know? the FLIR cant see threw you walls, only the heat being pumped out of the house. thats why you have to make the heat exit in a smart place that would make it look like a water heater or dryer ect..

Thanks for the VOTE on Nug Of The Month. i am very thankful for that

 

[The Butcher]

Yeah carbs should be used at all times. Keep in mind if photosynthesis is happening then carbs are needed. AS for the room situation- I know its not something that is great to hear but you simply either need to pump some A/C or get a fan that has a high CFM rating in order to remove the heat from the room. Sounds like you got your ducting in order. If you have any kinks in the ducting try to smooth them out. Anytime you run ducting the more kinks of elbows the harder your fan has to work in order to continue a high CFM rating.

..Oh an for the stacking you can do it either in veg or in flower. I tend to do it more in flower, unless heat issues arouse. In that case I watch and see how the plants react to the intense heat. Some plant will even thrive with high heat, BUT NOT ALL!! studies have shown that plants in veg do sometimes like the high heat. You can even goggle it an find studies proving the theory.

 

[IrishBoy]

Yeah carbs should be used at all times. Keep in mind if photosynthesis is happening then carbs are needed. AS for the room situation- I know its not something that is great to hear but you simply either need to pump some A/C or get a fan that has a high CFM rating in order to remove the heat from the room. Sounds like you got your ducting in order. If you have any kinks in the ducting try to smooth them out. Anytime you run ducting the more kinks of elbows the harder your fan has to work in order to continue a high CFM rating.

thats what i thought, Ill give them some next feeding. thanks brother!

i am getting it worked out. i found out with my setup i need two 6" fans the same size for intake/exhaust. i wish A/C was an option for me. but the bigger fans it.

 

[vipers]

The Butcher, Thanks for the Info. I will try the GH product this grow!!! Sincere Thanks man. .V.

 

[KX808]

I've used molasses an it became the dominant flav and never used it since. I fed up till harvest so maybe I fed too far?

 

[kansas420]

For those of you who dont know me my name is Irish Boy. i am a Medical Card Holder, with a prescription from a doctor to grow cannabis for my Medical Conditions.

My last 600w grow with Welcome to Grow LED Hydro - LED Grow Lights - Hydroponics - Plant Lighting went really good for me, so i deiced to stick with these leds because i think they are the best for me. and if it isn't broke dont fix it.

On the grow I will be growing 6 Hindu Skunk clones. All 6 will be LST and put inside my own little twist on a Hempy Bucket. I call it the Dirty Irish Bucket. (DI Bucket). i have a 6 site drip system running to each buckets that I made myself. i took some 1/4 tubing, drilled 4 holes in a cross patten, and put a T fitting at the end. it actualy works really good, nice consent drip not too fast and not too slow, very even watering threw out the pot. the 2 buckets on the right are about 90% perlite and 10% sun shine mix. those ones also have the chunky perlite on the bottoms. all the rest are a 75/25 mix of perlite/sunshine and they have the fine perlite on the bottom. so we can see what works best with this set up. Now i want to make something very clear this is my 1st time ever using hydro, so if i mess things up dont blame the light! because if you look at my last grow 600W LED Grow you can see the light works just fine. last thing i was is someones equipment to get blamed for something i mess up on.lol

The nutes will be GH flora series with some sweetener added in flowering. I will also be using some Silicon to help with the heat, fungi, bugs and drought and stress when i am not home.

I will veg under my 600w growledhydro light until i received my three 360w led lights, then i will switch them out for flowering. each 360w light will be over 2 plants side x side.

The temps are going to be 100F+ with the lights off, the summer heat is no joke! but this will tell us if leds can grow in high temps because of the less IR they put off compared to HID.

Wish me luck & lets get this grow started

ufos dont flower well

 

[The Butcher]

You going to want to have AT LEAST 25% more air going OUT than you have going in so that your air flow is consistent with the CFM rating on the fans.

 

[IrishBoy]

I've used molasses an it became the dominant flav and never used it since. I fed up till harvest so maybe I fed too far?

i always say at least 10 days flush. its well worth it trust me. i do around 14days flush and it really pays off.

 

[The Butcher]

I've used molasses an it became the dominant flav and never used it since. I fed up till harvest so maybe I fed too far?

Sounds like you did, Flushing is what helps to bring out the natural flavors in cannabis...well all fruits and flowers to be honest. That and a good cure. Did you use blackstrap molasses? it does make a difference. Unprocessed molasses can be harmful at some point if not used right.

 

[IrishBoy]

You going to want to have AT LEAST 25% more air going OUT than you have going in so that your air flow is consistent with the CFM rating on the fans.

see i run into a prob i believe with that. then its creates a vac and sucks threw the water heater went and nothing but hot attic air. man i hate my grow room. and this is why i say if i can get good buds from these lights then anyone should be able to do better. ill have to play around with it. i can adjust my speed on my fan so ill slow down my intake and see how much i pull threw the water heater.

 

[Myzz617]

Mkk just finished watching the video, does anyone know the name of this material one can buy at Home depot? Thanks in advance

OO and irish i voted for your nug my friend

Love Google Building Materials - Insulation - Radiant Barrier at The Home Depot

Or

Discount Hydroponics - Block-IR

And one more https://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=53857

 

[IrishBoy]

Here a sneak peak of my Inferno baby at 4 days. The little dead spots on the older leaves is not my fault I got them like that. my growth is nice and green..lol..... The light is around 29" from the tallest plant. on all my other pics this plant would be the one on the top right corner

 

[WheeloFortune]

so you trying to cool off the inferno eh???

good plan. . . your journal goes so fast bro, i only read back 2 pages.

both of butchers suggestions are great as usual, but still, the number one thing to supplement to deal with heat, without actually dealing with the heat, is of course CO2. many people shoot for 95* when they are supplementing CO2 to get the stomata to really open fully and take in all that extra CO2.

I like the inline fans, they are loud as a bitch though aren't they??? thats why i dont use them, but i played with one on a dimmer switch in my hydro shop, and when i turned it down it was nice and quiet. if I knew that I would have never got rid of my 8", would just got a dimmer for it.

did you get a carbon filter too? if so, and you are exhausting fresh smelling air, you'll want a little vacuum affect in the room to make sure none of the smell gets out without passing through the filter first. most people do this intentionally. . . if you are sucking from a hole you don't want to (like a hot attic) just plug it, duct tape fixes everything. lol. then make sure you port it to somewhere with good air, and let it pull from there passively. no need for an active intake in 99% of situations (IMO).

and insulating the water heater, would not only keep heat out of the room, but in the tank, so you'll be saving money there too, if you wanted to try that.

the last option, might be your best, and most expensive. a stand alone AC unit might cost about $300-$400, but you can put it anywhere and port out the heat and port in the cold, and it should have a thermostat on there so you even have control over the temp you want to set it at.

i hate spending money too, especially when you dont have it, but sometimes in business you have to spend it to make it. $400 on an AC sounds expensive, but if better temps wards off some heat stress and translates to at least a couple extra OZ. in the end, you made your money back in one grow, and then you have it for the future.

good luck bro, i'm sure you'll come up with a solution that works for your space. as always, here to help out and give suggestions whenever it is wanted (and sometimes when it's not) lol. if i am preoccupied, gimme a hollar, i'll be around.

 

[IrishBoy]

so you trying to cool off the inferno eh???

good plan. . . your journal goes so fast bro, i only read back 2 pages.

both of butchers suggestions are great as usual, but still, the number one thing to supplement to deal with heat, without actually dealing with the heat, is of course CO2. many people shoot for 95* when they are supplementing CO2 to get the stomata to really open fully and take in all that extra CO2.

I like the inline fans, they are loud as a bitch though aren't they??? thats why i dont use them, but i played with one on a dimmer switch in my hydro shop, and when i turned it down it was nice and quiet. if I knew that I would have never got rid of my 8", would just got a dimmer for it.

did you get a carbon filter too? if so, and you are exhausting fresh smelling air, you'll want a little vacuum affect in the room to make sure none of the smell gets out without passing through the filter first. most people do this intentionally. . . if you are sucking from a hole you don't want to (like a hot attic) just plug it, duct tape fixes everything. lol. then make sure you port it to somewhere with good air, and let it pull from there passively. no need for an active intake in 99% of situations (IMO).

and insulating the water heater, would not only keep heat out of the room, but in the tank, so you'll be saving money there too, if you wanted to try that.

the last option, might be your best, and most expensive. a stand alone AC unit might cost about $300-$400, but you can put it anywhere and port out the heat and port in the cold, and it should have a thermostat on there so you even have control over the temp you want to set it at.

i hate spending money too, especially when you dont have it, but sometimes in business you have to spend it to make it. $400 on an AC sounds expensive, but if better temps wards off some heat stress and translates to at least a couple extra OZ. in the end, you made your money back in one grow, and then you have it for the future.

good luck bro, i'm sure you'll come up with a solution that works for your space. as always, here to help out and give suggestions whenever it is wanted (and sometimes when it's not) lol. if i am preoccupied, gimme a hollar, i'll be around.

Much respect for the help.

i would love to run a tank @1500ppm but as of now i cant do that, i need to work on getting that room sealed up 1st because they CO2 just get waisted in their and runs out too fast.

to be honest both of my fans are very quite. i can of course here the air moving but the motors and very silent. its a S&P fan. uses very low watts also.

yes running a big ass filter for smell. i tried to clog the water heater duct, and bad bad idea! i took a shower and my room almost burnt down! it created some kind of back draft and shot a big as flame out and melted the plastic nob. so i said fuck that and let it be.

i drilled a whole threw my door and ran a line into a much cooler room that has A/C for those crazy hot days. I own a portable A/C unit but the hose is some weird size so i am trying to find an adapter that will fit.

as of right now the 6" intake and the 4" exhaust seems to be doing the trick and keeping things allot cooler, and know its not creating a vac effect but right now in veg its fine until i flower and the smell come out, but i just ordered a bigger exhaust fan to run, should be here in a few days.

as always thanks for you great advice!

much respect!