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jls191 said:
None of my friends know or would approve what this room is going to be and they all keep telling me I should do a drop ceiling so I am going to have to finish on my own to avoid questions I don't want to answer.

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yea get rid of that drop ceiling not airtight at all!!
 
langa78 said:
hey guys great thread and still more and more awesome comments!!!i had a really stupid thought today has anyone thought or heard of physically injecting the plant in the stem with nutes...i know completely off the wall question maybe i have to much time on my hands but if anyone has heard off it or any comment would be appreciated
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I think that would be equivalent to human's slamming some dope, that's no good and not necessary. I've never heard of anyone injecting a plant(almost 100% sure it wouldn't survive). Stick with regular or foliar feeding. In my experience with MJ, less is more, I never use the recommended dose unless they are big well established plants.
 
It would be very easy to avoid introducing air when injecting a solution into a plant's stem, but it's not like a human bloodstream where pressures are relatively high and the blood is moving fast.

BTW, it takes a fairly large bubble of air to cause any issues in humans.

Things happen a lot slower in plants, and I don't think they would be able to transport the nutes any faster, better, or more efficiently by direct injection. It you increased the pressure in the stem, you'd be doing more harm than good, air or not.
 
Setting Sun said:
It would be very easy to avoid introducing air when injecting a solution into a plant's stem, but it's not like a human bloodstream where pressures are relatively high and the blood is moving fast.

BTW, it takes a fairly large bubble of air to cause any issues in humans.

Things happen a lot slower in plants, and I don't think they would be able to transport the nutes any faster, better, or more efficiently by direct injection. It you increased the pressure in the stem, you'd be doing more harm than good, air or not.
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yup i agree with what he said.
 
jls191 said:
Hello all, I am building a growroom in my basement. Will a drop ceiling with ventilation in the room keep smells contained or should I drywall the ceiling?

By ventilation I mean inline fans and ducting to an outside wall

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i would get things as air tight as i could and let the venting be the only air escaping in the room to contain smell with a filter
 
langa78 said:
thanks much appreciated im doing a grow first time just wondered with the set up i have i will get reasonable results if not can you suggest other or more lights my tent is 80cmx80cmx160 and how many plants would you personally get in there many thanks
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well if my math is right that around 3'x3'? if it were me and i didnt have heat problems i would run a 400w-600w hps (or a 300w led if you wanted leds?) and the plants are pretty much on how big you let them get, but if it were me i usaly do some medium to the bigger side plants i would do 4 of them. but its really hard to say how many plants because you could do SOG or 1-2 SCOG or LST, and some strains bush out more then others. but if you were just growing a avarge strain straight up i would probably do 4.

I am sure their will be someone with that size tent that can tell you for sure on here?
 
irishboy said:
yup i agree with what he said.
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That's pretty much what I read to somewhere, I can't remember where for the life of me. Found it. Different site so I just copied the text.

"The issue with injection is that plant cells and "veins" are not very flexible and will burst with the drastic increase in pressure, cellulose simply can't take that. Also, if ANY air got in there an embolism would form and kill your plant"

I think it's cool Irish that you don't mind others asking off topic questions.
 
My tents are 80 x 80 mm, and I agree with Irish that 4 plants would be the max I'd try to grow out unless I was doing something like a 12/12 from seed grow in one-gallon grow bags, or something like that where you could pack more in.

Even 4 plants gets crowded. I'm not sure you wouldn't yield more from growing just 2, using larger containers for more root space, and giving them more light and space.

Even if it was a push, I think I'd rather grow less and larger plants.

The evolution and direction of some very good growers confirms that for me.
 
langa78 said:
well at the moment i have a 300w cfl and 2 further 30w cfls not sure if that would be good enough?i think im going to lst them to keep them a bit shorter thanks for the comment
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i am a fan of CFL for veg but not so much for flowering. when ive flowered with them, and my buds were always more on the fluffy side compared to HID. Now i am not saying CFL arnt good, but its all depends on the money you are willing to spend. if i was running 300+w of cfl i rather just buy a 400w HPS and use it for flowering, you would get allot more yield and fatter grade A+ buds IMO. but like i said it all come down to ur money u have to spend.


Setting Sun said:
My tents are 80 x 80 mm, and I agree with Irish that 4 plants would be the max I'd try to grow out unless I was doing something like a 12/12 from seed grow in one-gallon grow bags, or something like that where you could pack more in.

Even 4 plants gets crowded. I'm not sure you wouldn't yield more from growing just 2, using larger containers for more root space, and giving them more light and space.

Even if it was a push, I think I'd rather grow less and larger plants.

The evolution and direction of some very good growers confirms that for me.
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i agree 4 would be max if you weren't doing 12/12 from the start.

heres something i learned from a really respected grower. he only had a certain size space can remember how big not not big, he uses a 400w hps he started with 8 plants then the next round went 4 bigger plants and yielded more then went 2 bigger plants and yield even more then the 4-8 plants, then he went to 1 big SCOG plants and yielded more then the 4-8 but not as much as the 2 plants but the 1 plants was only a few OZ's shy. he only does 1 plant Scrog and veges for 10 days and pulls 12oz in 70 days from a 400w hps with 1 plant. So that shows you that sometimes more is less and less is more. the more lights the more plants, but under single lights sometimes its more yield each harvest the less plant you have in small area because they not fighting for the light and shading each others bud sites.

The true yield comes from learning as a grower and having a dialed in environment
 
grandaddie77 said:
That's pretty much what I read to somewhere, I can't remember where for the life of me. Found it. Different site so I just copied the text.

"The issue with injection is that plant cells and "veins" are not very flexible and will burst with the drastic increase in pressure, cellulose simply can't take that. Also, if ANY air got in there an embolism would form and kill your plant"

I think it's cool Irish that you don't mind others asking off topic questions.
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Ya ive read that before also just cant remember where?

I dont mind if any one ask a question. anyone please ask away if you want to learn something. i dont mind one bit. this thread is you guys thread to not just mine. the more info and questions the more we learn.
 
langa78 said:
so what your saying is i can do 12/12 from the start of my grow?surely i wouldnt have much yeild per plant that way?sorry if im being dumb just very new
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its one of those deals where you wont get as much per plant put you will harvest fast/more a year their fore you will yield more, because of the less veg time. allot depends of the strain as always. ive seen some only get 1/4oz per plant and some get 1.5-2oz per plant. allot of the yield is also on the light wattage you use and environment you have.
 
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