Xlr8's "Flo N Gro" Hydro Multiple Strains 2011

[Xlr8]

Yup, I am aware of all of that. Different states have individual labeling requirements and in order to retail products in stores in each state, you must pay some fees and meet their labeling requirements. Registering products is really easy in Louisiana (where I am at).
All I can say is that what I put in my products is listed on my labels. I personally would not feel right selling anything that's not listed.
Some chemicals that may accelerate growth rates such as PGR /ALAR, could potentially be harmful to humans. Here is a good site that can possibly shed some more light on the hydroponic industry:
Flower Dragon Additive
Since I only sell online, I am not worried for now. To me, truth and transparency is very important, especially when dealing with products that are affecting something that is ingested by human beings. I am just going to keep doing what I am doing (listing all of my ingredients) and let the cards fall where they may. I have no problems staring back at myself when I look into the mirror and I make my mother proud!

brother. I'm pretty happy to be supporting your product, and I hope I do it justice. I hope your honesty and integrity carry you a long way. and love your take on this.

 

[Xlr8]

Hi Xlr8,

It's been a while, I just caught up. Wow, lot's going on in here. Great looking plants. Keep em green...I'll keep watching.

Thanks Sqwheels, I appreciate that. Yes, a lot going on. We got a little off-topic, but hopefully it's good conversation that stirs productive thought... I appreciate you being in my journal, and I can't wait to see how your SOG goes!

 

[Xlr8]

Man Xlr8, your journal is so hard to keep up with! You got like 3 pages a day lol!! The ladies are loving the environment, it would seem. Looks like those skywalkers are dominating. Nice to see you could squeeze that last site in there. Everything looks good. What are your opinions on the oceanus thus far?

Hi Magic beans - thanks for bringing us back to topic a little too!

Yes, it's moving fast here lately, but that's fun. So many great growing minds and even a nutrient expert here, so how can I not appreciate that?

The Skywalkers look so textbook perfect and happy in person - they're beautiful for vegging plants. One of the Lucy's is like that too, as is the Lavender. I have a funky Lucy and my Magic Bud was transplanted a couple of times and is a little behind. I squeezed it in there, but I should probably not let this many plants veg too long....

I have no complaints on the Oceanus so far - no problems or issues at all, I'm very pleased. Just had to unplug the system and reset it once because I unplugged and replugged a pump individually (vs. main plug in) and it caused the system to not work for some reason until I unplugged/replugged the main plug... Any complaints or thoughts on your part so far?

for popping by and your thoughts on my plants and getting us back on topic some.

 

[Xlr8]

Thanks! I had been using Bushmaster until the most recent group of plants I put into my Bloom Room because they were already flowering outside, so I figured that they were done stretching at that point. I was right about that. They didn't add any significant height after being moved indoors.

From what I could see with my past group that I did use it on which were my two Blueberry Kush clones, Bushmaster definitely stopped their stretch dead in its tracks. Those plants were still in veg when I brought them under the 12/12, so I am pretty sure that it helped keep them from going crazy.

It is always hard to know for sure though! It could have also been because I decided that time to mix my T5 tube temps and go with a 50% 6400k and 50% 3000k for the first two weeks of 12/12.

Still...from all I have read about what Bushmaster does, it was probably the thing responsible for the lack of stretch.

Haven't decided if I will start using it again next season. Some of the comments about it being dangerous has me a little concerned.

Gonna have to read the links on this when I have more time, was thinking of using Bushmaster for the first time... Good thoughts and yes, it's hard to know what helps and what works/what doesn't some times. Many people swear by it, I know that! Gotta keep ourselves healthy though...

 

[naphtali5725]

Dang XL, this journal got big fast!! Plants look awesome man!!

Kind regards,

 

[mastershuffle]

your plants look primo X. That's also pretty cool you got chem talk going on here, I must hit this journal up in the future for some of those recipes

 

[Xlr8]

Dang XL, this journal got big fast!! Plants look awesome man!!

Kind regards,

Naph -

I am really happy with the way things are going so far.

Yes the journals been really moving pretty fast, huh? Crazy!

 

[Xlr8]

your plants look primo X. That's also pretty cool you got chem talk going on here, I must hit this journal up in the future for some of those recipes

Thanks mastershuffle -

The Blue Planet Nutrients are really working nicely so far - my plants are vegging really healthily right now. Makes me every time I look at them!

 

[NorCaliwood]

Driving thru looking for some new pic's. Seems this thread is getting long fast. I know there isn't much to say about this stage, what can we say, the plant has a new tooth? Hope all is going great. The few pages I scaned thru I didn't see any negative sounding posts so It sounds like all good. I'll bb Keepem Green

 

[Xlr8]

Well, in response to Norcaliwood's post I'm going to do something cheesy and repost my own pics - the journal is moving really fast, and these were taken/posted just 2 days ago, (but are now about 4 pages back!):

Picture update Sept. 9


Group photo (Top: Lavender, Lucy, Lucy --- Bottom: Chocolope, Skywalker, Skywalker, Magic Bud):

Chocolope seedling:

Lavender:

Magic Bud:

Lucy 1:

Lucy 2:

Skywalker 1:

Skywalker 2:

Nice side view of Skywalkers (bottom), Lucys (top), and Magic Bud (far right on bottom):

 

[Mr. Krip]

Thanks! It gave me a chance to "Like" it again!

 

[Aaron Quix]

Thanks! It gave me a chance to "Like" it again!

Me too

 

[Magic beans]

Hi Magic beans - thanks for bringing us back to topic a little too!

Yes, it's moving fast here lately, but that's fun. So many great growing minds and even a nutrient expert here, so how can I not appreciate that?

The Skywalkers look so textbook perfect and happy in person - they're beautiful for vegging plants. One of the Lucy's is like that too, as is the Lavender. I have a funky Lucy and my Magic Bud was transplanted a couple of times and is a little behind. I squeezed it in there, but I should probably not let this many plants veg too long....

I have no complaints on the Oceanus so far - no problems or issues at all, I'm very pleased. Just had to unplug the system and reset it once because I unplugged and replugged a pump individually (vs. main plug in) and it caused the system to not work for some reason until I unplugged/replugged the main plug... Any complaints or thoughts on your part so far?

for popping by and your thoughts on my plants and getting us back on topic some.

Im very fond of the big blue boss bucket. Of coarse with titan its pretty much guarrenteed satisfaction.

Having all those different strains in there, what are your plans for keeping a relatively even canopy? Gotta make sure no plant gets overrun by another!

 

[OldMedMan]

Im very fond of the big blue boss bucket. Of coarse with titan its pretty much guarrenteed satisfaction.

Having all those different strains in there, what are your plans for keeping a relatively even canopy? Gotta make sure no plant gets overrun by another!

Good question! I want to hear the answer too......maybe he has something up his sleeve.

 

[Xlr8]

Im very fond of the big blue boss bucket. Of coarse with titan its pretty much guarrenteed satisfaction.

Having all those different strains in there, what are your plans for keeping a relatively even canopy? Gotta make sure no plant gets overrun by another!

Good question! I want to hear the answer too......maybe he has something up his sleeve.

Hi Magic Beans and OMM -

Well, I'm planning on experimenting some on that one. I might try an Uncle Ben's topping on one or two, and probably do some LST. I'm not 100% sure, frankly! I'm taking it a day at a time still and thinking it through.

They are all supposed to be pretty similar finish time, with the exception of the Chocolope which is a Sativa that I'll flower early, and the Magic Bud, which should finish about a week earlier than the others (The Magic Bud was originally in case I didn't have a perfect germination rate, I wanted to have another option in case I had a problem with any of the seeds). I ended up with all of them germing well, and now I have more plants than I intended, but I just don't have it in me to kill a healthy plant (unless it hermies).

My health has been a bit suckier lately, so it gets hard to spend much time with them, but I might even do some thing(s) today. I'll take pics if I do!

Good Question guys!

 

[OldMedMan]

Hi Magic Beans and OMM -

Well, I'm planning on experimenting some on that one. I might try an Uncle Ben's topping on one or two, and probably do some LST. I'm not 100% sure, frankly! I'm taking it a day at a time still and thinking it through.

They are all supposed to be pretty similar finish time, with the exception of the Chocolope which is a Sativa that I'll flower early, and the Magic Bud, which should finish about a week earlier than the others (The Magic Bud was originally in case I didn't have a perfect germination rate, I wanted to have another option in case I had a problem with any of the seeds). I ended up with all of them germing well, and now I have more plants than I intended, but I just don't have it in me to kill a healthy plant (unless it hermies).

My health has been a bit suckier lately, so it gets hard to spend much time with them, but I might even do some thing(s) today. I'll take pics if I do!

Good Question guys!

Hey Buddy, sorry your not feeling very well. Guess it's going to longer than we thought.
I have trouble that way to..hence my slogan below.

Yea, I think I'll try Uncle Ben's too. Maybe some other topping too. I've kept 3 of them so short they may not be very big any way.
Take care my friend.

 

[RVgrower]

Hey X! Long time since I've stopped by your place and said hello, and I'm so sorry for that brother....I have had my own pain/health issues as well, and I am so very sorry that you are also feeling under the weather or just plain sore....I will send healing vibes your way, and pray for you to feel better right away..
On a brighter note, your new babies look fantastic...Now that I've learned to clone right, I hope to never have to try to germinate another seed as long as I live, because I totally SUCK at it....lol, but it's so true...I have about a 20-25% success rate at the most, and that's ridiculous when you know how much the beans are and how rare it is to find them sometimes, and then when I finally DO get them, I usually end up killing them, even though I am doing everything I know I am supposed to do....I feel cursed! I did better with my vegetable seeds outside this year! lol, oh well, that's the way it goes...
HEY! YOUR garden looks outstanding my friend!!! Right on!!! I'm glad you are getting the success you wanted outta that new system...I'm doing the same kinda thing, almost....just made up a bit of a new mix this time around (I'm on grow #4 this year now, can you believe it? lol) with FFOF as a base, then added good amounts of perlite and vermiculite, oh! and a small amount of "seed starter mix", aka 50% sphagnum peat, and 50% vermiculite.....and I went with tray feeding this time around...the vermiculite is able to "wick" up the nutes super fast!!! I can literally sit there and just watch the plants suck up their nutes in a matter of a few minutes usually....and I am so glad I went with this method of feeding them this time around. I don't like the soil erosion and "furrowing" that top-watering does to soil and even perlite mixes.....If I had the cash flow for that system you have, I would definitely buy that....it's the same thing, but I have to get up and feed them myself every 2-3 days, where-as your system feeds them every few hours or so, right? I'm WAY behind on this journal of yours right now, but I think that is what I remember reading on it when I first read up on your new grow a few weeks back or so....With my tray feeding this time, when I get sick or am not able to function normally for a day or 2 or ?, they can go without much if any assistance that way, and for that, I am thankful. This is in some ways easier than the last 3 "Hempy" style grows I have done before this soil grow. I had to feed them either nutes or water almost every day because they dried out so fast here, super super fast!

I hope to get some Lucy some day...But I will tell you, the Northern Lights#5 x Skunk#1 plant I just harvested is a great cross! I am very pleased with the smoke and the effects on my pain and nausea, it's an awesome medicine! I am going to post a smoke report on it right away, and get some more of that by clone or bean, I don't care! I wish I had harvested a whole crop of that...

Anyways, enough of me, brother, again, your garden looks fan-f'ing-tastic! And I am SO happy for you my friend!!! I hope you enjoy continued successes in that beautiful magical garden of yours! Much love to you, my dear friend! And thank you again, for all you have done for me...I don't forget what people do for me....

You rock dude!


PS! I did the "Uncle Ben's Topping method" myself, when I first started growing in the RV back at the first of the year, but ended up with a bunch of FIM jobs instead, lol! So I always had just 2 main colas, and 2 "secondary main" colas, on the sides next to the big tops, in other words, the opposite buds.....Like, lets say 12:00 on the face of a clock is one of my main colas, then 6:00 is the other main cola, so that makes the 3:00 position and the 9:00 position what I keep calling the "secondary main" colas....I have to go back and re-read the method...and try to get it right with these clones....GOOD LUCK TO YOU BROTHER, AND IF YOU GET IT RIGHT, WILL YOU PLEASE POST IT ON HERE-PICS, THE EXACT WAY YOU DID IT, ETC.....I know we'd all appreciate it!

 

[Xlr8]

Hi RV! So glad you stopped by, and I'm glad you're liking the soil so much and that it's less maintenance for you than the hempies.

My system feeds them about 6 times a day right now in Veg (about every 4 hours or so). I have a reservoir outside of my tent that pumps the nutrients in and out of the buckets inside the tent. Basically, it floods the root zone for 15 minutes, then drains itself back into the reservoir.

It's pretty cool having the reservoir outside of the tent because I can even balance PH in the reservoir while they are in their dark cycle, for example, (also helps me keep the reservoir cooler).

The great thing is, in a pinch, I could leave for a few days and not have to worry about things as long as the power stays on.

So glad you stopped by - you've been grooving along nicely, too. I'm really glad if I've been able to help you some. Take care RV - my friend!

 

[Xlr8]

Hey Buddy, sorry your not feeling very well. Guess it's going to longer than we thought.
I have trouble that way to..hence my slogan below.

Yea, I think I'll try Uncle Ben's too. Maybe some other topping too. I've kept 3 of them so short they may not be very big any way.
Take care my friend.

buddy. I've never topped, just LST, so I'm a bit nervous about the whole thing, but this seems like a good opportunity to experiment since I have so much going on in the tent.

Okay, I'm off to research this some, and then experiment!

 

[Crower619]

XL ladies are looking very sexy lol your the main reason I want to switch over to hydro my friend soon very soon loving that choco and skywalker great work, how do you like your new system I'm debating on DWC or EBB n Flo