Woodsman's Northern Light #5 Grow
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Seeing as you have about 8 lights now, isnt that approaching or reached the cost of a decent dual spectrum 400 hps that wouldnt require all the workarounds? I'm sure you have your reasons but generally hps is twice as good overall so just wondering why the strategy.
lol Yeahhman, cheekbone syndrome I call it, with big cheshire cat grin on yer face..
lol Yeahhman, cheekbone syndrome I call it, with big cheshire cat grin on yer face..
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What do ya think Joe, are we done with the cold weather? I want to get going with the outdoor grow! I was bored last week and planted one bagseed in a 3inch pot and placed it under my boat (rained for a few days). Just checked it earlier today and found that the earth was packed a little to tight, but it was still damp and about a quarter inch down I found the seed with a nice tap root . Loosened the soil a little and exposed the top of the seed to the air and put it where it will get a bit of sun. Hey, who knows?
Hows your plant doing Joe. Must be very close to H-Day (H for harvest).
Seeing as you have about 8 lights now, isnt that approaching or reached the cost of a decent dual spectrum 400 hps that wouldnt require all the workarounds? I'm sure you have your reasons but generally hps is twice as good overall so just wondering why the strategy.
lol Yeahhman, cheekbone syndrome I call it, with big cheshire cat grin on yer face..
Easy, I couldn't afford to spend a couple hundred on a 'real system'. I already had a couple of unused 100w bulbs (HPS and MH) laying around, so I went to eBay and bought two F-Can ballasts (wired them up myself) for cheap and a clamp on reflector from Wally. That was my grow last Autumn. I just added the CFL's for this grow. No way I was able to buy a system, seeds, nutes and earth at one shot. I only intended to grow one time since that was the original agreement with my wife. Life is easier when you have money. Not easy when you don't. Simple equation! Answer: A little at a time and work with what you have and do your best! Outdoor is where my past and future lie as far as growing.
A 400w? I have a homemade tent made from garbage bags and PVC tubing with only about 5 square feet of floor space and only about 4 ft in height. No other indoor options. 400W would be overkill! LOL.
ahh claro lol fair enough then.
Ive spent twice wat I thought I would and Im broke so you did the right thing for sure.. I have 5 plants in my 1m x 1m tent and that already seems overkill. With big fan in there etc its already getting crowded and only just gone into flower.
Figured 3 plants be enough for me but was sure id lose a couple, touch wood I haven't so far.
Didnt realise you were in such a small space, as Fatleaf n family looked so great
Ive spent twice wat I thought I would and Im broke so you did the right thing for sure.. I have 5 plants in my 1m x 1m tent and that already seems overkill. With big fan in there etc its already getting crowded and only just gone into flower.
Figured 3 plants be enough for me but was sure id lose a couple, touch wood I haven't so far.
Didnt realise you were in such a small space, as Fatleaf n family looked so great
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ahh claro lol fair enough then.
Ive spent twice wat I thought I would and Im broke so you did the right thing for sure.. I have 5 plants in my 1m x 1m tent and that already seems overkill. With big fan in there etc its already getting crowded and only just gone into flower.
Figured 3 plants be enough for me but was sure id lose a couple, touch wood I haven't so far.
Didnt realise you were in such a small space, as Fatleaf n family looked so great
Depends on how big you let them get in veg? I guess my main concern with any higher wattage would be the heat. I've already had it over 100 f in there and now I have to keep the front flap open and have cut a much larger opening on the top. Problem is that the tent is upstairs in an area that collects heat (loft).
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ahh claro lol fair enough then.
Ive spent twice wat I thought I would and Im broke so you did the right thing for sure.. I have 5 plants in my 1m x 1m tent and that already seems overkill. With big fan in there etc its already getting crowded and only just gone into flower.
Figured 3 plants be enough for me but was sure id lose a couple, touch wood I haven't so far.
Didnt realise you were in such a small space, as Fatleaf n family looked so great
I don't know how I missed your grow 3lions! I will put in my 'subscribed list' so I will get updated. I feel really bad, I try to visit as many as I can!
lol, no worries my friend, there so much going on in your journal, very informative and talkative I like it here.
I vegged mine for 4 weeks, intended to stop around a foot or so but they are/were growing so quick that some are around 18inches tall and 2 feet wide after just 35 days from dropping the seed in. Cant compain of course but 1m is only 4 feet depth max so am actually wanting them skinny whereas many people want them bushier lol
I vegged mine for 4 weeks, intended to stop around a foot or so but they are/were growing so quick that some are around 18inches tall and 2 feet wide after just 35 days from dropping the seed in. Cant compain of course but 1m is only 4 feet depth max so am actually wanting them skinny whereas many people want them bushier lol
Hypo Hippy
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hey Woods just checking in ,looking good.i hope your rh is not as high as mine(60%),had to order a dehumidifier,i'll need it i have five clones should be ready to flower after i harvest and cure.
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Looks like ya got 'bushier'! lol. Those are some wide plants my friend. I think you will be arraigning them everyday just to make room! They sure are gorgeous though.
hey Woods just checking in ,looking good.i hope your rh is not as high as mine(60%),had to order a dehumidifier,i'll need it i have five clones should be ready to flower after i harvest and cure.
Good job ordering the dehumidifier Hypo, you don't want any rot now. Mine rh went as far as 50 the night I fertilized them and the daytime at 25. Goes down as the soil drys, like to 16. It will start to rise now with the weather warming up outside and the windows opened in the house.
slowhand15
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Woodsman,
Although mine are from cuttings, I usually let my NL#5 go 8 weeks and start to cut.
9 weeks is couchlock time. I usually let a few colas go that far for those times I want couchlock! he he.
Nice grow.
Although mine are from cuttings, I usually let my NL#5 go 8 weeks and start to cut.
9 weeks is couchlock time. I usually let a few colas go that far for those times I want couchlock! he he.
Nice grow.
ChicagoJoe
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what are your lighting details?
does having more intense light cause the buds to ripen faster.
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Hi slowhand and Joe!
Very good Joe, that would be my question also to slowhand. I'm using limited lighting (compared to most). Fatleaf is close but from examining her, I'd say two weeks more. That would put her at 9 weeks+ a day or two. Thanks for both of you piping in!
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Just to elaborate on my last post about another two weeks till harvest (just a prediction, I will harvest at a certain percentage of amber trichomes).
Right now (yesterday as far as trichomes go) while I did see a couple of amber trichs, it was nothing to right home about. You can say I've got like 1 percent amber. Mostly cloudy with a few still clear. That's fatleaf. I don't see Big Girl jumping ahead of Fatleaf yet, although she is about even if not a little more frosted! She's still about 50/50 clear/cloudy. The Runt is just starting the fatten up process and now she is starting to frost up also. She's like fatleaf was 2 to 2 1/2 weeks ago.
As far as the flush goes, I just read an interesting article I've got on file. Copied it to my Notepad so I don't have a link to it, but I could copy the information to a PM and get it to anyone interested. I can't remember where it came from, but is very interesting and it's main topic is 'Potency'. Getting back to flushing though, it discusses this. One of the issues concerned the lack of calcium availability to the plant during the flush. The article stresses that calcium is important in the potency equation. So I was wondering if anyone has heard of this. It did state that this would be more crucial for hydro growers since in the soil as it mentions, there would be lime and calcium deposits so may not be a factor. It's not too long and I'd really 'dig it' if some one like LR or Mountain would take a look at it. let me know what you think, could be that one of you recognize the article itself!
You now what, I'll just copy the paragraph about the flush and the calcium and put it here. If anyone is interested in the rest of the article, just let me know.
Here you are> Well it's more than a paragraph but here it is anyway.
Flushing: pros and cons
Much time and thought has been put into the feeding needs of each part of marijuana's life cycle, yet for some reason the final stages of resin development always seem to be ignored. But the vegetative period of plant growth is only setting the platform for us to produce the trichomes that we are after.
Flushing in particular seems to be something that is over-emphasized by many of today's growers. Many growers "flush" their plants with straight water or clearing agents during the final weeks before harvest in an effort to improve taste and smokeability. The theory is that this forces the plant to use up stored nutrients that may affect these qualities. Although this is certainly true to some extent, what many are forgetting is that not all nutrients can be moved within the plant.
Nitrogen, which is the main factor in poor-tasting bud, can be moved within the plant. If not present in the root zone a plant will take it from the older leaves to support newer growth. Calcium, however, is a nutrient that cannot be moved within the plant, if it is not present in the root zone it is not available for growth. Little research has been done on nutritional requirements of cannabis during the final stages of flowering, but it seems likely that calcium is vital as it is crucial in cell division. A calcium deficiency at later stages could therefore adversely affect trichome production.
This is not as serious of a concern for soil-based growers, as lime or other calcium sources which are mixed into the soil likely will provide sufficient nutrition even while flushing with pure water. But hydroponic growers using very pure water sources with little naturally occurring calcium could have problems. Flushing is certainly a valid technique, but is easily overdone and is not a quick fix for overfeeding earlier in the flower stage.
Some studies have shown that high potassium levels have a negative influence on THC production,4 which would correlate to the general belief that while hemp crops uptake more potassium than phosphorous, the reverse seems to be true for drug and seed cannabis crops.2 A study on how to minimize THC levels in hemp crops showed that THC levels in newer leaf growth decreased as nitrogen levels were increased.5 As no THC measurement was taken from floral clusters we can only speculate that the same would likely hold true in buds. This would also explain the good results that most growers have flushing their plants, as nitrogen is the nutrient most easily flushed from the soil.
Right now (yesterday as far as trichomes go) while I did see a couple of amber trichs, it was nothing to right home about. You can say I've got like 1 percent amber. Mostly cloudy with a few still clear. That's fatleaf. I don't see Big Girl jumping ahead of Fatleaf yet, although she is about even if not a little more frosted! She's still about 50/50 clear/cloudy. The Runt is just starting the fatten up process and now she is starting to frost up also. She's like fatleaf was 2 to 2 1/2 weeks ago.
As far as the flush goes, I just read an interesting article I've got on file. Copied it to my Notepad so I don't have a link to it, but I could copy the information to a PM and get it to anyone interested. I can't remember where it came from, but is very interesting and it's main topic is 'Potency'. Getting back to flushing though, it discusses this. One of the issues concerned the lack of calcium availability to the plant during the flush. The article stresses that calcium is important in the potency equation. So I was wondering if anyone has heard of this. It did state that this would be more crucial for hydro growers since in the soil as it mentions, there would be lime and calcium deposits so may not be a factor. It's not too long and I'd really 'dig it' if some one like LR or Mountain would take a look at it. let me know what you think, could be that one of you recognize the article itself!
You now what, I'll just copy the paragraph about the flush and the calcium and put it here. If anyone is interested in the rest of the article, just let me know.
Here you are> Well it's more than a paragraph but here it is anyway.
Flushing: pros and cons
Much time and thought has been put into the feeding needs of each part of marijuana's life cycle, yet for some reason the final stages of resin development always seem to be ignored. But the vegetative period of plant growth is only setting the platform for us to produce the trichomes that we are after.
Flushing in particular seems to be something that is over-emphasized by many of today's growers. Many growers "flush" their plants with straight water or clearing agents during the final weeks before harvest in an effort to improve taste and smokeability. The theory is that this forces the plant to use up stored nutrients that may affect these qualities. Although this is certainly true to some extent, what many are forgetting is that not all nutrients can be moved within the plant.
Nitrogen, which is the main factor in poor-tasting bud, can be moved within the plant. If not present in the root zone a plant will take it from the older leaves to support newer growth. Calcium, however, is a nutrient that cannot be moved within the plant, if it is not present in the root zone it is not available for growth. Little research has been done on nutritional requirements of cannabis during the final stages of flowering, but it seems likely that calcium is vital as it is crucial in cell division. A calcium deficiency at later stages could therefore adversely affect trichome production.
This is not as serious of a concern for soil-based growers, as lime or other calcium sources which are mixed into the soil likely will provide sufficient nutrition even while flushing with pure water. But hydroponic growers using very pure water sources with little naturally occurring calcium could have problems. Flushing is certainly a valid technique, but is easily overdone and is not a quick fix for overfeeding earlier in the flower stage.
Some studies have shown that high potassium levels have a negative influence on THC production,4 which would correlate to the general belief that while hemp crops uptake more potassium than phosphorous, the reverse seems to be true for drug and seed cannabis crops.2 A study on how to minimize THC levels in hemp crops showed that THC levels in newer leaf growth decreased as nitrogen levels were increased.5 As no THC measurement was taken from floral clusters we can only speculate that the same would likely hold true in buds. This would also explain the good results that most growers have flushing their plants, as nitrogen is the nutrient most easily flushed from the soil.
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That's bout half the article! Hey, might as well post the rest right? I just figured it was too long.
Again I don't remember where I got it from and had saved the text only to my notepad. If I'm in violation of some rule or copyright, then please remove the two posts or if someone sues me, ha! Good luck collecting! LOL
Just very interesting. Here is the first half of the 'text' on 'potency':
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The best way to take a look at how environment affects THC production is to look where on the planet cannabis has naturally adopted a high THC profile. As cannabis has spread around the world it has taken on many different traits to help in its adaptation to varied areas. The best drug varieties have always been found at equatorial or high altitude locations. The one thing which both of these variables have in common is high light intensity and a large amount of ultraviolet (UV) light in the spectrum.
Recent Swiss trials in outdoor plots of clones grown at different altitudes have shown that there is correlation between higher altitude and increased potency (although there seems to be a trade off in yield). This likely means that THC-rich resins act to protect the plant and its seed from both higher light intensities and ultraviolet presence. It's no surprise that cannabis has developed a chemical to protect itself against the Sun's damaging UV rays, as they can be injurious to all forms of life.
In a plant's search for survival, energy put towards unneeded processes is wasted energy. Therefore a high-THC plant grown in a low THC environment will likely produce a medium THC result.
Humidity also plays a role in plant resin production. Although some potent equatorial strains do seem to occur in high humidity areas, most high-test land races have evolved in drier areas, like Afghanistan. The aridity of the areas of Afghanistan where Indica strains have evolved is quite apparent by the trait of large dense flower clusters. This would only be an advantage in an area of low humidity, as flowers will mold in anything more.2
There are many examples of non-cannabis plants producing resins in order to protect themselves from drying out. The waxy coating on cacti and other succulent plants is a prime example.3 Marijuana flowered in humid conditions will often have a longer stalk on the glandular trichome than the same strain grown in drier conditions. While this may give the appearance of being very crystallized, it will likely contain less THC than the same plant grown in a drier environment. Another problem with longer trichome stalks is that the gland heads are more likely to break off during handling.
There ya go! Match the text about the flush to the end of this and you got the whole 'text'.
Again I don't remember where I got it from and had saved the text only to my notepad. If I'm in violation of some rule or copyright, then please remove the two posts or if someone sues me, ha! Good luck collecting! LOL
Just very interesting. Here is the first half of the 'text' on 'potency':
_________________________________________________
The best way to take a look at how environment affects THC production is to look where on the planet cannabis has naturally adopted a high THC profile. As cannabis has spread around the world it has taken on many different traits to help in its adaptation to varied areas. The best drug varieties have always been found at equatorial or high altitude locations. The one thing which both of these variables have in common is high light intensity and a large amount of ultraviolet (UV) light in the spectrum.
Recent Swiss trials in outdoor plots of clones grown at different altitudes have shown that there is correlation between higher altitude and increased potency (although there seems to be a trade off in yield). This likely means that THC-rich resins act to protect the plant and its seed from both higher light intensities and ultraviolet presence. It's no surprise that cannabis has developed a chemical to protect itself against the Sun's damaging UV rays, as they can be injurious to all forms of life.
In a plant's search for survival, energy put towards unneeded processes is wasted energy. Therefore a high-THC plant grown in a low THC environment will likely produce a medium THC result.
Humidity also plays a role in plant resin production. Although some potent equatorial strains do seem to occur in high humidity areas, most high-test land races have evolved in drier areas, like Afghanistan. The aridity of the areas of Afghanistan where Indica strains have evolved is quite apparent by the trait of large dense flower clusters. This would only be an advantage in an area of low humidity, as flowers will mold in anything more.2
There are many examples of non-cannabis plants producing resins in order to protect themselves from drying out. The waxy coating on cacti and other succulent plants is a prime example.3 Marijuana flowered in humid conditions will often have a longer stalk on the glandular trichome than the same strain grown in drier conditions. While this may give the appearance of being very crystallized, it will likely contain less THC than the same plant grown in a drier environment. Another problem with longer trichome stalks is that the gland heads are more likely to break off during handling.
There ya go! Match the text about the flush to the end of this and you got the whole 'text'.
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Just wondering if this was one of Roseman's blogs? HMMM?
Jasonlee247
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LOL, I know I've done a good job when My wifey takes a couple tokes and roams around the house like a zombie. Her eyes get really small and blazing red, and she has this slack look on her face almost to drooling (if she had any saliva left I'm sure she would!) It's hard not to laugh, but if I'm also stoned I cant help it and she gets really mad. "BRAINS!" I yell, and she runs around trying to beat me!! OMG I just cant help myself sometimes.
I use my wife as a pot medical experiment! LOL! When she is manic I load up the strain that works for that and walla back to talking normal again! Oops, overshot the dossage,fading fast, here's some sativa for you, sweety! LOL!
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LOL, I know I've done a good job when My wifey takes a couple tokes and roams around the house like a zombie. Her eyes get really small and blazing red, and she has this slack look on her face almost to drooling (if she had any saliva left I'm sure she would!) It's hard not to laugh, but if I'm also stoned I cant help it and she gets really mad. "BRAINS!" I yell, and she runs around trying to beat me!! OMG I just cant help myself sometimes.
Jason messes with his wife for entertainment which is a good thing. MC does it for the good of science. also a good thing. That pretty much covers all aspects of using the wife as a guinea pig. I use my wife for scientific reasons also. I use her to test potency, taste, smell etc. It's all good and gives us a reason to keep them around. Not dead weight or anything.
Just a joke ladies! Sorry Lavendar!
Jasonlee247
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hi woodsman. I found this in another thread. Basically this was what I was trying to say in a nutshell. Medication may have contributed to my more 'cheshire' side. lol
COmmjDude
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Jason messes with his wife for entertainment which is a good thing. MC does it for the good of science. also a good thing. That pretty much covers all aspects of using the wife as a guinea pig. I use my wife for scientific reasons also. I use her to test potency, taste, smell etc. It's all good and gives us a reason to keep them around. Not dead weight or anything.
Just a joke ladies! Sorry Lavendar!
you forgot one aspect of girlfriends and wifes for testing cannabis woodsy how about testing the strength of your brownies or edibles by tricking your non-smoking girlfriend into trying a piece and getting stoned with you for once; results super pissed, then giggly, then horny haha i would say very successful experiment if only i could get rid of the super pissed haha
actually whenever i trick her she ends up going in my grow and trimming my plants for me to i've had to get sneaky after the first time though last time i used marinara canna sauce with parmesan chicken haha