Woodsman's Northern Light #5 Grow

Woodsman said:
You know I was just over at Be IRIE's thread and he has some buds that will be harvested in a week he says.. They have ten times the amount of trichs that I had. If you look at anybodies pics, they will be much more 'triched' out than mine was. I don't know why that was, but I sure do not want that to happen again. This grow I added 160w (actual) in cfl's. But I am still worried that it is not enough. For that reason I don't plan on the plants wasting any energy trying to grow lower down. I will concentrate the lights to the canopy only. even if I have to cut off some of the undergrowth. I'm doing some LST now to flatten the canopy out. I think much energy was wasted on the very dense undergrowth that I had with the Mazar. Perhaps if I had done SOG with the Mazar, it would've been more potent.
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tomorrow or maby later tonite i will post a pic of the trics on my cfl grow i do the same thing as you i see others grows and say wtf why so many trics compared to mine i actually said that about your mazar grow so maby if you stand your girl next next to the poor chick she'll look preaty
 
Good plan to get as much light as you can on a canopy as flat as you can. CFL's don't penetrate too far into the canopy. For production it's either surround the plant with cfl's or put an HPS on top and cfl's on the sides. Most growers I know upgrade their lights from one grow to another. I went from cfl's only to 250 hps to 400 hps and I'm thinking about going bigger. You have to be patient as you learn to grow. Every grow is better than the one before it. You're undergrowth was a lot more than mine so maybe that's part of the solution. I had major leaf dieback when I switched to 12/12 (normal) but have since fixed by maintaining veg nutes for a couple of weeks into flower.
 
afgooey said:
tomorrow or maby later tonite i will post a pic of the trics on my cfl grow i do the same thing as you i see others grows and say wtf why so many trics compared to mine i actually said that about your mazar grow so maby if you stand your girl next next to the poor chick she'll look preaty
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I'll be glad to take a look at your buds.

MostlyCrazy said:
Good plan to get as much light as you can on a canopy as flat as you can. CFL's don't penetrate too far into the canopy. For production it's either surround the plant with cfl's or put an HPS on top and cfl's on the sides. Most growers I know upgrade their lights from one grow to another. I went from cfl's only to 250 hps to 400 hps and I'm thinking about going bigger. You have to be patient as you learn to grow. Every grow is better than the one before it. You're undergrowth was a lot more than mine so maybe that's part of the solution. I had major leaf dieback when I switched to 12/12 (normal) but have since fixed by maintaining veg nutes for a couple of weeks into flower.
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on the last grow, I formed a bowl shape with 6 tops. Imagine this: take you hand and turn it palm up. Now grip your hand like your holding a soft ball. That was the shape of my mazar (only with 6 not five branches) The 100whps was positioned right over the center giving light all the way to where the branches all met. The six tops were LST'd, spreading them apart. Like your fingers in the example I gave. That's how I got the great undergrowth. That may be why it was not that potent. Perhaps had I let the six branches just grow straight upwards to the light giving me a SOG, I would have been better off. Less meds, but better quality. How does that sound?
 
Question

When should I remove the undergrowth on my plants since I'm going for top canopy buds only ( SOG )? Some of it has yellowed and died off already, but there are minor budsites down there that will never get good light. I don't want the plant to use any energy trying to grow these leaves or buds.
 
hypo hippy said:
Good question Wood...I want to know the same thing. I will be checking this out closely. We are at about the same point in our grows.
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We'll learn this together. Every SOG I've seen is devoid of growth under the canopy. Just don't know when to 'assist' the plant in this.
 
afgooey said:
you answered your own ? start with the stuff that is not gettin light but dont go to far up the plant and do you mean scrog or sog and im uploading pics right now
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I'm not using a screen
 
the first pic is a 7 week nug pic2 is where the nug came from
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and pic3 is 5 week bud and pic4 is where pic3s nugs came from
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man there's something to that...looser less dense buds with less trichome development. I just can't remember what yet..but I'm working on it. it's not just "less light"...people grow great buds with CFL's...like in a crossword puzzle where you just sit and stare, that's where I'm at...but I'm workin' on churning it up. I KNOW there's some kind of problem that we've both faced that we could fix and improve on...
 
I actually have no idea about tric's, have heard antagonist's help (UV, Ozone and maybe more...I don't know).

This is something I would like to know, I am pretty sure keeping adequate level's of key nutes during bloom is important and having too many of others is bad, keeps the girls from eating what they are suppose to...like too much nitrogen during bloom will extend your finish, maybe noob nuting is the problem with low potency...this is just a guess, I really have no idea....

:peace:

BTW I am currently vape drying/smoking some of Lilbit's lower buds to try it out and it is night and day from what I have been smoking. WOW :yahoo: I MEAN WOW, I have visual's, like tripping, I keep getting light brightening and I can see the screen better (am half blind). Even wet she tastes amazing, mild , can't wait til she cures....:yummy:

I have been sitting here almost dysfunctional for the last couple sentences and almost totally clear headed. I could happily pull her now...but I am gonna wait her out a bit more. I could easily (and have) closed my eye's and spaced off, listening to Synchronicity...awesome song...must stop typing....

Peace brother.
 
afgooey said:
i fixed my pics so check out my previous post thanks
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The bud looks nice,but I can't really see the trichs well I think due to the pic quality/lighting as in 'too dark'.

BreakPoint said:
man there's something to that...looser less dense buds with less trichome development. I just can't remember what yet..but I'm working on it. it's not just "less light"...people grow great buds with CFL's...like in a crossword puzzle where you just sit and stare, that's where I'm at...but I'm workin' on churning it up. I KNOW there's some kind of problem that we've both faced that we could fix and improve on...
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You must be smokin some good sh*t! LOL. Either that or I have!LOL Run it through me again.
afgooey said:
:ganjamon:im 100% sure my low tric count is due to it hitting 39 at nite alot it is still better than one could find around here but not at all as killer as its mommy oh and those pics are 12/12 from seed if ya care and yes there lst'd like hell:ganjamon:
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thirty-nine is a little on the cool side, that's for sure! I've had my outdoor grows down into the 40's but that would be once and then I'd bring'em in.

MountainHigh said:
I actually have no idea about tric's, have heard antagonist's help (UV, Ozone and maybe more...I don't know).

This is something I would like to know, I am pretty sure keeping adequate level's of key nutes during bloom is important and having too many of others is bad, keeps the girls from eating what they are suppose to...like too much nitrogen during bloom will extend your finish, maybe noob nuting is the problem with low potency...this is just a guess, I really have no idea....

:peace:

BTW I am currently vape drying/smoking some of Lilbit's lower buds to try it out and it is night and day from what I have been smoking. WOW :yahoo: I MEAN WOW, I have visual's, like tripping, I keep getting light brightening and I can see the screen better (am half blind). Even wet she tastes amazing, mild , can't wait til she cures....:yummy:

I have been sitting here almost dysfunctional for the last couple sentences and almost totally clear headed. I could happily pull her now...but I am gonna wait her out a bit more. I could easily (and have) closed my eye's and spaced off, listening to Synchronicity...awesome song...must stop typing....

Peace brother.
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Way to go,Buddy! Ya done good Mountain my man! Are ya sure she's not ready now? Anyway, I'm happy for you. All that work, finally paying off!

Is this what you look like now? :rasta:
 
Woodsman said:
The bud looks nice,but I can't really see the trichs well I think due to the pic quality/lighting as in 'too dark'.


You must be smokin some good sh*t! LOL. Either that or I have!LOL Run it through me again.


thirty-nine is a little on the cool side, that's for sure! I've had my outdoor grows down into the 40's but that would be once and then I'd bring'em in.



Way to go,Buddy! Ya done good Mountain my man! Are ya sure she's not ready now? Anyway, I'm happy for you. All that work, finally paying off!

Is this what you look like now? :rasta:
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I feel like Jack Nicholson as the Joker, so yeah I resemble that. :smokin2:

I am more than happy :yahoo:, but I want some amber. And this girl only has a few percent so far, and I am hoping the camera comes soon. So I catalog her some before she goes.

:peace: brother.
 
OK back to potency. A theory of went wrong with my last grow.

Insufficient light (lumen) for the amount of flower (bud) 'surface' I was growing.

Small light + small budding surface = good outcome,

Small light + large surface = low potency

The plant is expending all it's energy growing a lot of bud 'surfaces' rather than using that energy into making a lot of trichs on a smaller bud surface.
 
Lilbit is mostly Indica, correct ( I'm not physically able -at this moment- to investigate this matter myself :rasta:). If she is, yup, let her go more.


I think :hmmmm:
 
That last post of mine is like what, one sentence? I had to edit it twice! LOL:rasta:
 
Woodsman said:
Lilbit is mostly Indica, correct ( I'm not physically able -at this moment- to investigate this matter myself :rasta:). If she is, yup, let her go more.


I think :hmmmm:
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No clue, one of her parents was a lanky sativa (Sour Diesel) and I think the other parent was Cherry Bomb Indica...no telling what she is, some blend.

I know what she and her sibling's are. Stinky hermi bitches with nice Buds...:rasta:

:peace:
 
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