Woodsman Outdoors

[Odin]

Talks about plugging the holes in cocoa plants/trees (?) thus suffocating the borer. This is a cocoa farm in Ghana, Africa. While not a scientific study, it's a possible for sure. Cannabis on the other hand does not have a solid pith (center of stem) it's somewhat spongy so you'd think their was enough air inside for the little bastards to live (do worms breath?). Also the holes 'my' guys are making to bore inside are so tiny and seem to be plugged up with their brown grainy looking (and feeling) crap. Maybe the cocoa borer are eating the wood as they go and by plugging the hole you are cutting them off of their air supply?

I was going to say the same thing. Since the cocoa tree has such a dense thick exterior once the hole was plugged it would be easy for them to suffocate. Like you said, the cannabis plant is hollow and I don't think plugging the holes would do much, if at all. Also as you noted their own holes are often clogged so I don't think it would be very effective on cannabis plants. Definitely an interesting article though.

All insects breathe, though not in any shape or form that is remotely similar to humans. They have tiny holes along their abdomen called spiracles that they use to take in oxygen as they need it. They can adjust the openings and even close them off to retain moisture. I think their already minimal oxygen requirements combined with the excess O2 that is bound to be floating around inside the stem where they reside would render plugging efforts futile.

Also due to the hollow interior of the Cannabis plant, it makes travel throughout the entire plant very easy for these caterpillars. Woodsman seems to have better luck at locating their entry points than I have had at my friend's farm, as I'm usually brought in late in harvest when they attack the buds as they usually don't cause my friend hardly any headache until the buds form.

I have some pictures I took a couple weekends ago when I was up helping him with a variety of things. Still working on that pest post, been extremely busy with school.

Here is a picture from my department, this is just one of dozens upon dozens of rows of insect collections. We even have specimens collected by Carl Linnaeus himself in our collection. Still a lot of work ahead of me....

 

[HorseBadoritz]

I was going to say the same thing. Since the cocoa tree has such a dense thick exterior once the hole was plugged it would be easy for them to suffocate. Like you said, the cannabis plant is hollow and I don't think plugging the holes would do much, if at all. Also as you noted their own holes are often clogged so I don't think it would be very effective on cannabis plants. Definitely an interesting article though.

All insects breathe, though not in any shape or form that is remotely similar to humans. They have tiny holes along their abdomen called spiracles that they use to take in oxygen as they need it. They can adjust the openings and even close them off to retain moisture. I think their already minimal oxygen requirements combined with the excess O2 that is bound to be floating around inside the stem where they reside would render plugging efforts futile.

Also due to the hollow interior of the Cannabis plant, it makes travel throughout the entire plant very easy for these caterpillars. Woodsman seems to have better luck at locating their entry points than I have had at my friend's farm, as I'm usually brought in late in harvest when they attack the buds as they usually don't cause my friend hardly any headache until the buds form.

I have some pictures I took a couple weekends ago when I was up helping him with a variety of things. Still working on that pest post, been extremely busy with school.

Here is a picture from my department, this is just one of dozens upon dozens of rows of insect collections. We even have specimens collected by Carl Linnaeus himself in our collection. Still a lot of work ahead of me....

Submit this for the department theme song

YouTube - Little Village - Don't Bug Me When I'm Working

 

[lavendar]

update on omm
omm said to let everyone know he is on the mend, but slowly, the antibiotics are taking their time working, and the weather there is cold and rainey, so hes in no hurry to be up and aabout....spending his time in bed bundled up, still gets cold sweats when he moves around alot, so not doing that....which is good....he isnt answering phones, messages, (often) or doing anything with 420, as he knows he will be on for hrs talking to his friends if he starts....thats good he realizes that, ....he thanks everyone for the well wishes and positive vibes....has another dr. appt. in about ten days, but the way he sounds, i think he'll still be on house and bed and anitbiotic therapy...he said all his babies are still alive, and he converted a closet, which is good, as he was worried about the babies, but lousy for him, as it wore him out and set the recovery back a bit....never move the first day you feel better, its a trick omm....and said he got another seed order, which he didnt remember he had ordered....good for him, but im now dying of curiosity...ok, so im nosey....anyway, hes better, and on the mend, but not good yet, still tired and cold and sick....keep those well wishes comming all...this was not a good way for him to celebrate his birthday....not good at all...but irregardless of how he felt, i for one was darn glad he was here to have another one...so happy b'day omm...and many more...and get well, we all miss you....hugs, L

 

[Odin]

submit this for the department theme song

youtube - little village - don't bug me when i'm working

 

[HorseBadoritz]

^^^^

 

[MOTAvation]

Thats a lot of bugs.Hey woodsman, just droping in cheking things out, love the purple in those huge bubba leaves.

 

[Woodsman]

I was going to say the same thing. Since the cocoa tree has such a dense thick exterior once the hole was plugged it would be easy for them to suffocate. Like you said, the cannabis plant is hollow and I don't think plugging the holes would do much, if at all. Also as you noted their own holes are often clogged so I don't think it would be very effective on cannabis plants. Definitely an interesting article though.

All insects breathe, though not in any shape or form that is remotely similar to humans. They have tiny holes along their abdomen called spiracles that they use to take in oxygen as they need it. They can adjust the openings and even close them off to retain moisture. I think their already minimal oxygen requirements combined with the excess O2 that is bound to be floating around inside the stem where they reside would render plugging efforts futile.

Also due to the hollow interior of the Cannabis plant, it makes travel throughout the entire plant very easy for these caterpillars. Woodsman seems to have better luck at locating their entry points than I have had at my friend's farm, as I'm usually brought in late in harvest when they attack the buds as they usually don't cause my friend hardly any headache until the buds form.

I have some pictures I took a couple weekends ago when I was up helping him with a variety of things. Still working on that pest post, been extremely busy with school.

Here is a picture from my department, this is just one of dozens upon dozens of rows of insect collections. We even have specimens collected by Carl Linnaeus himself in our collection. Still a lot of work ahead of me....

Great job explaining this to us all Odin. YOur research will benefit us all!

update on omm
omm said to let everyone know he is on the mend, but slowly, the antibiotics are taking their time working, and the weather there is cold and rainey, so hes in no hurry to be up and aabout....spending his time in bed bundled up, still gets cold sweats when he moves around alot, so not doing that....which is good....he isnt answering phones, messages, (often) or doing anything with 420, as he knows he will be on for hrs talking to his friends if he starts....thats good he realizes that, ....he thanks everyone for the well wishes and positive vibes....has another dr. appt. in about ten days, but the way he sounds, i think he'll still be on house and bed and anitbiotic therapy...he said all his babies are still alive, and he converted a closet, which is good, as he was worried about the babies, but lousy for him, as it wore him out and set the recovery back a bit....never move the first day you feel better, its a trick omm....and said he got another seed order, which he didnt remember he had ordered....good for him, but im now dying of curiosity...ok, so im nosey....anyway, hes better, and on the mend, but not good yet, still tired and cold and sick....keep those well wishes comming all...this was not a good way for him to celebrate his birthday....not good at all...but irregardless of how he felt, i for one was darn glad he was here to have another one...so happy b'day omm...and many more...and get well, we all miss you....hugs, L

Glad he's feeling better L! Thank you so much for keeping us up to date on O's condition.

Happy Birthday O!

Just remember you can celebrate when you feel better.

Thats a lot of bugs.Hey woodsman, just droping in cheking things out, love the purple in those huge bubba leaves.

Thanks MOTA for dropping in and for your nice comments!

 

[Woodsman]

Dry Weight Update!


Bagweed 1A = 115 grams or (approx.) 4 ounces

Bagweed 1B = 125 grams or 4.5 oz

Bagweed #2 = 140 grams or 5 oz
(pink)

Northern Lights #5 = 115 grams or 4 oz
(from seed)

Mazar = 130 grams or 4.5 oz
_______________________________
Total = 625 grams or 22.3 ounces in 18 quart size Kerr jars.

Still two more plants to go!


Both the Bubba Kush and the Runt (regrown NL#5) are outside on the deck enjoying our great weather! Should be in the 60's for the next few days while at night falling to only the upper 30's to low 40's.



I've figured out that some species of MJ can flower in temps of mid to upper thirties and survive. Last night it fell to 35 Degrees and both plants came out just fine. Had I known that it would go down so low, I'd have brought them in. The forecast was for the upper 30's but our outdoor thermometer (same one I used indoors last time) showed a low last night of 35. Now I wouldn't think that they'd survive at temps like that constantly. I've had daytime temps above the upper 40's when they've been out and they seem to do alright, perhaps their growth slows down a bit when this happens, but they will survive.

I'd imagine the temps in the high Hindu Kush valleys can get to near freezing at night but warm up nicely in the high mountain sun.

These two remaining ladies should be harvested by the weekend. I'm seeing some amber on both.

Thanks for checking in my friends!

 

[Sonzor]

Very nice haul, got to be happy with that. Buds for days.... Great job....

 

[Woodsman]

Very nice haul, got to be happy with that. Buds for days.... Great job....

Thanks buddy. I'm already smoking way too much! Like a kid in a candy store! LOL


I should have had heavier weight total than what I've got. The Borers ate up as much as an oz per plant (just a guess) and then either due to laziness or I'd prefer to think, my love of hashish, I put all of the tiny fluffy buds from the bottom halves of the NL#5 and the Mazar in with my hash making material.. I got a whole freezer bag of the little buds from the Mazar and a couple of sandwich bags worth off the NL#5.

I don't expect too much (as far as weight goes) from the Bubba and the Runt. The Runt is very limited in buddage, the tops are not large and lower half is all 'fluff'. She was/is a good and very stoney smoke, even her first go around (indoor) was small (compared to the other indoor plants) and her finished product was kind of airy. I regenerated her as an experiment and actually tried growing her mate 'Big Girl' first. She didn't make the transition due to the very cold temps I had in April.

The Bubba Kush will be ready within the week and in fact I tested a tiny bit last night and ended up staying awake (again) far into the night! Excellent and very potent smoke! She has enormous tops, but there are only three of them (the fourth broke earlier in the summer from high wind damage). She's got several secondary buds below that are very solid so I won't have any 'fluff' from her.

 

[Hypo Hippy]

very nice weight considering you fed all the worm population.congrats= reps if i can

HH

 

[Barry Manilow]

Great harvest buddy! 22 z's of primo bud.... you're set for over a year!

I'm smoking a lot more too. This is the first time I've ever had more than a month's supply on hand. It's easy to get used to

Take care my friend. I'll be looking for your full report on the BK!

 

[lavendar]

you eventually will smoke less....we did....its not soooo urgent now....we both smoke and he smokes alot, but he does smoke less....and me, alot less...i just know its there, and its all sooo strong, it just takes less...which is nice....enjoy the fruits...you worked your azz off for it....and have had several adventures....which i loved reading about....my bubba never has alot of tops, and if you top like i do, it gets alot of thumb sized tops and no large ones, so it seems to have a set yield in there somewhere....probably bred in...have one 3ft momma that and a lac that will be whacked soon to start alot of clones for posperity hopefully...will flower the remainder...would like to do one crop of those two....they are the only ones that hubby really loves to manicure....later, L

 

[lavendar]

omm alert.
he said he still feels like crap, but is rejoining the human race....didnt really realize he was as sick until he started getting well....so hopefully he may rejoin us soon....i told him to wait until after his dr. appt. tho....but who
knows?? he might be a difficult patient....but we love him....later, L

 

[ChicagoJoe]

Woody,
I have that screen (silkscreen in a frame) that you can use until I get another grow going. It helped me gather trics for smoking.

I will bring it with me.

Peace.

 

[holysmokey]

hey wood heck of a harvest

 

[Woodsman]

Sorry folks I've been away from the site for a spell!

very nice weight considering you fed all the worm population.congrats= reps if i can

HH

That's for darn sure! Now I've just lost some of my Runt to powdery mold! Took all the tops off and left the scruff on the lower half. Only one nice top affected, most of the mold is in the bottom half so I weeded out as much as I could see, but it got dark and I had to stop. Trimmed the top half just now and found just one more spot of mold. Only 165 grams wet from what I took today, again leaving the fluffy buds for hash making. I'll inspect the rest of her tomorrow. There are still some smokeable buds out there.

Great harvest buddy! 22 z's of primo bud.... you're set for over a year!

I'm smoking a lot more too. This is the first time I've ever had more than a month's supply on hand. It's easy to get used to

Take care my friend. I'll be looking for your full report on the BK!

Hey Blue! Just brought her inside (BK) after finding mold on the Runt. I'll give her another inspection tomorrow. So far so good!

you eventually will smoke less....we did....its not soooo urgent now....we both smoke and he smokes alot, but he does smoke less....and me, alot less...i just know its there, and its all sooo strong, it just takes less...which is nice....enjoy the fruits...you worked your azz off for it....and have had several adventures....which i loved reading about....my bubba never has alot of tops, and if you top like i do, it gets alot of thumb sized tops and no large ones, so it seems to have a set yield in there somewhere....probably bred in...have one 3ft momma that and a lac that will be whacked soon to start alot of clones for posperity hopefully...will flower the remainder...would like to do one crop of those two....they are the only ones that hubby really loves to manicure....later, L

I hear ya L. I am still feeling like a kid in the candy store, like that, it will ware off, but not entirely!

omm alert.
he said he still feels like crap, but is rejoining the human race....didnt really realize he was as sick until he started getting well....so hopefully he may rejoin us soon....i told him to wait until after his dr. appt. tho....but who
knows?? he might be a difficult patient....but we love him....later, L

He's a strong bugger and it will take more than a little pneumonia to put him down

Still I'm relieved that he's feeling better.

Woody,
I have that screen (silkscreen in a frame) that you can use until I get another grow going. It helped me gather trics for smoking.

I will bring it with me.

Peace.

Awesome buddy! Looking forward.

hey wood heck of a harvest

Thanks Holy! How are ya doing my friend?

 

[lavendar]

yeah, we all know what ya been doing....done alot of the same...gonna do some more....working at freeing up some time to paint a little....so i want it all to slow down some for a while....
somewhere in there, it does become break time....so i do understand the time...
need to post some more pics soon, but just finished up some stuff at our place....finally....so know how ya feel....i would just harvest it if its got amber at all unless you really want the bubba to honey out...and it will...give it a little heat and keep dry, it will mold...cut back on the water....alot...i usually have to really watch her about now....
i got a haw. snow that is ready....not supposed to be for a while yet, but is, started really looking at her just after i watered....it is so thick with teas, it looks like a layer of oil on her...and some of its honey, so shes about as done as i want her...i guess thats what i get for thinking huh? i thot i was done for a while...but she should be ez...
see ya later...so wheres the smoke reports? we see the SMOKE CLOUD, but cant make out a report or even random letters or numbers?? ok, i'll go home...later, L

 

[Barry Manilow]

Hey Woodsman!

I'm making you an honorary member of my "I fng hate mold" club.

Someone forget who was telling me the other day about their cure for PM.... spray them day 1 with skim milk, spray the next day with high ph water... 9 or so. Kills the pm and the spores supposedly.

Might be worth a try as a preventative on the still healthy.

Good luck with your latest battle! It never ends.

 

[Barry Manilow]

I found the post by Kylester, I'm sure he won't mind me sharing it

"To treat the powdery mildew, I first tried spraying them with a milk solution that was 1 part skim milk to 9 parts water. Just misted down every leaf I could on the plants. Really made sure to get everything to prevent it from getting worse. I noticed the milk was leaving a residue on my leaves so I opted out to a little neater improvised method...

This time around when it got humid, I sprayed them with a solution that was ratio'ed at about...

1 gallon of water
1/2 a spritz of soap out of the bottle (to use as wetting agent; it basically makes the rest of the stuff stay on the leaves when the water evaporates)
and then pH up until its around a 8.5-9

I sprayed them with this yesterday and there are zero visible signs of PM today; no spores, nothing... I'm hoping they stay this way!"

As I read this, he is only suggesting the 2nd method, not the milk method. I'll try to get him over here for clarification, and I recommend his journal.