Should be pretty much the same, though possibly less ripe in terms of clear/cloudy/amber. When I take of larf in later flower it's sticky AF.
Winging It In Winter By The Window: Soil Auto Grow
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Ive said it elsewhere in the past, love following along with all the info that tumbles out during a grow that has many active members.
The little tidbits like Carcass suggesting smell can be associated with needing to water, light distancing droop from Trala, and underside greenness from Shed.
These are just the recent ones, and some of it may be much more obvious to others than myself, but when you all talk about different aspects about the grow to the OP (Carmen in this case), you are helping me, and Im sure, many others, now and in the future.
Thanks for sharing. Thats my point. Big help, great observations.
The little tidbits like Carcass suggesting smell can be associated with needing to water, light distancing droop from Trala, and underside greenness from Shed.
These are just the recent ones, and some of it may be much more obvious to others than myself, but when you all talk about different aspects about the grow to the OP (Carmen in this case), you are helping me, and Im sure, many others, now and in the future.
Thanks for sharing. Thats my point. Big help, great observations.
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Good to know... I hope I get some decent oil. Thanks!
Ditto, Deev, I am very grateful for the observations and contributions that have guided this grow. I'm glad you find it valuable to follow along.
Saturday 16 July UPDATE
AUTOS
Lavender Best 61 Days AG, 38 Days In Flower (47 cm / 18.5 inches tall, trained)
2 L Water with cal mag and “nutes” (with calmag, 401 and Epic) 13th July
PHOTOS
Bruce Banner 2 40 Days AG
Feeder roots watered 12th July
Moved further from light 12th July
Foliar spray kelp extract 12th July
Up-pot 16th July 2022 and water to run-off (3.5 L)
Do you see how the branches off the main branch are clumped together in a tuft? I don't really know how to train them as there is no space atm. Will that clump stretch out still?
Wedding Cake 40 Days AG
Feeder roots watered 12th July
Moved further from light 12th July
Foliar spray kelp extract 12th July
Up-pot 15th July 2022 and water to run-off (4 L)
And the day after her up-pot, condition has improved nicely.
Thanks for looking in folks. Have an awesome weekend!
I'm the same way Carcass. Some plants just say no. Mostly the quick flowering ones for me. The rest get it thoughI hope you're better at it than I am- I was going to drought one of my autos, but when the time came, I couldn't do it...it just didn't seem right...
Maybe one of these days, but not this time....
Congratulations on your first harvest Carmen! You'll have some of the finest smoke on the planet in short time now! Happy dry and cure!
I think I understand the question,
so I'll give it a try...Those are the branches that will eventually make up the canopy- no need to train them quite yet, but you do want to make sure they get plenty of light- that's the reason we do the clipping and leaf tucking.
When they reach 2" long or so, you can start directing those branches to where you want them to go.
In your minds eye
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Thank you Carcass. I discovered my problem yesterday. When I bent the main in lst I unwittingly torqued the stem and now the branches are coming out in a spiral and crisscrossing one another. My next problem is that I can't envisage where the branches are going to fit in between one another at this stage because they are very little, very compact, and not symmetrical. I think I messed up. Only time will tell I guess? They must now grow faster! I can't veg them beyond July because the season is changing and I don't have a dark space for them. They will follow the spring light cycle and hopefully cooperate and flower out to harvest. The pressure is onI think I understand the question,
Those are the branches that will eventually make up the canopy- no need to train them quite yet, but you do want to make sure they get plenty of light- that's the reason we do the clipping and leaf tucking.
When they reach 2" long or so, you can start directing those branches to where you want them to go.
In your minds eye
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It makes sense to me to want to try it sometime. Perhaps not this time because I need to learn about it properly and I am still on Autos 101 lol.I'm the same way Carcass. Some plants just say no. Mostly the quick flowering ones for me. The rest get it though
Thank you Otter... very happy indeed
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@Carcass I snipped a second node branch off because it seemed like it would always be in the way and would never get decent light as it was underneath all the others. The tuft had grown a few cm and I was able to pull it apart somewhat. I moved all of the hooks around and I think I have it in a decent shape now. What do you think? You can see where I snipped the branch.Thank you Carcass. I discovered my problem yesterday. When I bent the main in lst I unwittingly torqued the stem and now the branches are coming out in a spiral and crisscrossing one another. My next problem is that I can't envisage where the branches are going to fit in between one another at this stage because they are very little, very compact, and not symmetrical. I think I messed up. Only time will tell I guess? They must now grow faster! I can't veg them beyond July because the season is changing and I don't have a dark space for them. They will follow the spring light cycle and hopefully cooperate and flower out to harvest. The pressure is on
Hi, Carmen-
*Any branches growing from the bottom side of the branches (toward the soil) should be removed now, along with the corresponding fan leaf.
(you may have already done this, hard to tell from the pics)
Yes, this stage can get a little confusing- right now, the branches don't fit very well, but once she gets a bit bigger and gives you a little more room, there will be more open areas, and things should start falling in to place... as she grows, it will become apparent where the branches need to end up
Well done, Carmen- she looks great!
*Any branches growing from the bottom side of the branches (toward the soil) should be removed now, along with the corresponding fan leaf.
(you may have already done this, hard to tell from the pics)
She looks much better.
Second question, why do you use leaf spray? (If that is what foliar spray is lol)
Second question, why do you use leaf spray? (If that is what foliar spray is lol)
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Thank you Tra.
In a foliar application you apply liquid nutes directly to the leaves rather than in the soil to supplement the plant’s feed. Absorption is through the stomata (pores) and the epidermis (skin). Foliar applications have a quick reaction in the plant. It doesn’t take the place of regular feeding in the soil, but it can provide a faster reaction when there is a deficiency.
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Thank you Carcass, that makes sense and perhaps I need to be a bit more ruthless about the snipping. I'll take another look.
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Just cos pics...
You’re so hard on yourself man! That looks like every bud! It’s perfect for 85% of it! And like you said earlier, the flarf will be smokable. I think you did a great job.I came to the end of the road with CK today. I have another seed for another time and can always get more. I will do better next time and plan properly. Now I know to add some weeks to the breeder dates. I have learnt quite a lot about growing autos this time around and I look forward to my next grow.
Caramel King before harvest
224 g Wet weight (plus 111 g larf and trim)
The remains of CK
You can see how green the lower part of the bud is... oh well, next time I will do a better job.
Thank you you for your interest and I hope you have a great Friday!
Congratulations on the harvest!
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You're a honey, thank you Jon. I guess the reason I am hard on myself is that I am comparing my outcomes with the lessons given by the folk who I consider to be masters. The bar is set high
I know I can't expect to master this overnight but ya know how it is...Wednesday 20th July UPDATE
AUTO
Lavender Best 65 Days AG, 42 Days In Flower
I watered her to run-off on 17th July, noticed feeder roots needed a sprinkle on 19th so I gave 2 L which is the usual feeder root amount. It ran-off again, woops. Anyway she is no worse for wear today. I included the following in her water:
Epic 5:2 (fulvic / humic / kelp combo)
Environoc 401 (microbial biostimulant)
Biocult myccohrizal wettable powder
PHOTOS
Bruce Banner 2 44 Days AG
1 L water to feeder roots 18th July
Next feed to include the above “nutes”
So far this plant is contained within the circumference of the 20 L fabric pot. I am training out laterally and using the plant tray to clip the tie downs however it looks to me that at some point I am going to have to give up the lateral training because I don’t have the space for all that width, as you will see in the photos of the Wedding Cake. What will happen if I draw the branches out laterally and then halt that process and allow the branches to grow upwards?
Praying again
Contained
Wedding Cake 44 Days AG
1.5 L water to feeder roots 17th July
Next feed to include the above “nutes”
This plant is a sensitive monster. She gets all droopy from time to time. She has overshot the boundaries of the 20 L fabric pot quickly and this brings me back to my question about allowing the branches to grow upwards once they are this far over the edge of the pot.
I measured the lux for the photoperiod plants and it is sitting between 8000 and 11000 lux in various different spots. Unfortunately I can’t rotate them because I don’t have the physical strength to lift and move them around.
Also praying again
And a final shot to show how they are taking up the allocated space.
As always I thank you for your interest in the grow and the fabulously useful information shared here. Have a great hump day y'all.
They'll tend to grow upwards and still outwards a bit from when you let them go vertical so take that into account if you have limited horizontal space.
Meaning if you train them right to the edge of the pot and then go vertical, when they do they'll grow up and outwards a bit to be wider than the pot. They don't grow straight up unless you tie them together or something.
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Thanks Azzi, I expect they will bulk up substantially. If things had gone according plan (i.e. breeder dates), the Lavender Best would be chopped by end July, but it looks like that won't happen so I have three plants under the light instead of two.
Once the Lavender Best is chopped I will raise those photoperiods up onto the table to take her place and that will give them a bit more space but even then... not sure what to expect in terms of girth and height. Height shouldn't be a problem because I can raise the light right up to the ceiling. However, I want to try to make nice canopies albeit with restricted girth
If the worst comes to the worst, I can always put them outside to finish but that really is extremely undesirable because it draws attention.
Hell, I have to flip them to flower at the end of this month!
