Wheelo's 3rd run - Attack of the Holy Shoots

charlesfats said:
ya your multitasking holiday season ur doing alrite you missed a couple steps I dont c a big difference between the volks girls n the srg considering your set back and your new arrangement with the rockwool. thats that scientist in you but alittle mad sometimes . i had read ur old journals and was like okay cool when i get ready imma holla at him. I saw this last setup and I was like weres cmx? lol
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yeah, there's not much difference in the buds right now, but the fan leaves on the wheel are taking a beating. I'm mad as a hatter sometimes. yeah cmx and maxx both disappeared. . . we may see them from time to time.:grinjoint:

blacken said:
hum
bad news about the root rot
but you caught it early so woot
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eh the roots are no better or worse than my last runs, but they def aren't the same as cmx's when he's done. i don't know about early as i only have 3 weeks left in flower. i could push it to 4 if necessary. but the scrog is gonna produse plenty so im so chill.:ganjamon:

:thankyou:
 
so I made up a batch of 4:1 STS. I didn't do a whole tutorial or anything but let me just show you all how easy it is to make this stuff. in case anyone out there ever had a need for a ton of feminized seed (who would want that eh?) lol.

here is a run down of what i used:
1)vinal/latex gloves. -do not go without these, its not dangerous but it will stain your hands for a month. not flattering.
2)(2) 1 liter bottles. -I used spray bottles cause i have extras. fill them bot to 490-500 ml of distilled water. i used RO.
3)a good digi-scale with at least .1g accuracy, a plastic cup to measure in (zero out the meter with it on)
4)Silver Nitrate = 0.250 grams
5)Sodium Thiosulfate = 1.3 grams

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Sodium Thiosulfate and Silver Nitrate:

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Here is the little shit that's taking the silver bullet. pre-op.

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and post-op

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i will throw her directly into flower in the tent. probably into the wheel too so i dont have to mix up separate nutes. my EC is 1.8 right now.
important note: s->he has a follow up surgery scheduled for wed. 12-16-09
 
The Butcher said:
jelous jelous jelous..You mixin the sts..Havent had time to play with mine yet...I'm shooting for mixing it this next week..I'll be hitting you up first though.
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third time's the charm, i think im gonna get a nice pollen store this time. then i'll store it in the bottle the silver was in, and into the fridge. . . i was real pissed after my last batch of pollen went moldy. female pollen, damn valuable if you ask me.

the pre-dosed silver was very convenient because unless you have nice lab equipment its hard to get that kind of accuracy (.250mg) it might be a tiny bit more expensive but 5 bucks isn't much.

I threw it in the wheel as soon as the lights came on. so now its on autopilot for a couple weeks. then another dose.

I only made it 4:1 (i prefer that to the 4.5:1 which is recommended in the articles) i think its a better ratio.

I froze the 4:1 ratio concentrate immediately after i made it. I wont even finish half of the diluted stuff. this will give me an opportunity to see if it can be stored frozen for a long period.
 
WheeloFortune said:
third time's the charm, i think im gonna get a nice pollen store this time. then i'll store it in the bottle the silver was in, and into the fridge. . . i was real pissed after my last batch of pollen went moldy. female pollen, damn valuable if you ask me.
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Have you tried putting in some kind of desiccant pack into the storage container? That should slow down many fungal attacks.

Oh, I can't wait to see "the change"! Thanks for documenting the process.
 
munki said:
Have you tried putting in some kind of desiccant pack into the storage container? That should slow down many fungal attacks.

Oh, I can't wait to see "the change"! Thanks for documenting the process.
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last time i used a pill bottle that had a built in desiccant top. it wasn't enough in the semi warm humid area i kept it in. . . this time i will store it in the fridge. that should keep it for the month or so that i will have to store it until the next run is ready. . . but yeah, that would have been a good idea anyways last time. might have saved it.

no problem, i think i ironed out the kinks last time. :surf:
 
If you collect more than about a 1/4 tsp of pollen, I would split it up into different containers before putting them in the fridge. That should help prevent mold too.

thanks for the STS info and pics, very cool!

Not that I have any use for a big ol' pile of fem seeds ;).
 
Setting Sun said:
If you collect more than about a 1/4 tsp of pollen, I would split it up into different containers before putting them in the fridge. That should help prevent mold too.
thanks for the STS info and pics, very cool!
Not that I have any use for a big ol' pile of fem seeds ;).
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good advice my friend, thanks.
grow support eh? nice! congrats bro, you deserve it.

PHATBLUNT420 said:
Hey bro, let me know if you got my pm, Might have found a Nice Item
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I got it, and thanks, good looking out, that could be exactly what im looking for. the only problem is the price as compared with the 3" cubes, but if it gives me the results I want, it would be well worth it.

But this could help me solve a lot of my problems. thanks again bro.
 
blacken said:
sex change operation omg O_O
lets see what happens
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here we go. . . lol.

you blacken i just saw your little baking link, looks good bro. how did you sift the weed? to what get trics like a silk screen or bigger than that? just found the kitchen because of that link, thanks for wasting an hour of my life. lol.:yummy:
 
Pollen Storage

To maximize the viability of any pollen you have collected and stored over a period of time....

1st seal pollen in a glass/plastic viles (you know - like the ones people use for powdery type drugs)

2nd put the vials in a screw top container like an old vitamin bottle

3rd put a packet of silica gel (absorbs moisture) in the vitamin bottle with the glass vials.. rice will work too if your in a pinch... the more the merrier

4th than store in the back of your fridge crisper.

3 - 4 months is about max storage for pollen... although seeds can last years stored this way
 
Re: Pollen Storage

StormChaos said:
To maximize the viability of any pollen you have collected and stored over a period of time....

1st seal pollen in a glass/plastic viles (you know - like the ones people use for powdery type drugs)

2nd put the vials in a screw top container like an old vitamin bottle

3rd put a packet of silica gel (absorbs moisture) in the vitamin bottle with the glass vials.. rice will work too if your in a pinch... the more the merrier

4th than store in the back of your fridge crisper.

3 - 4 months is about max storage for pollen... although seeds can last years stored this way
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thanks chaos, that's pretty much my plan.:slide::slide:
 
WheeloFortune said:
here we go. . . lol.

you blacken i just saw your little baking link, looks good bro. how did you sift the weed? to what get trics like a silk screen or bigger than that? just found the kitchen because of that link, thanks for wasting an hour of my life. lol.:yummy:
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Yeah not many people know about the kitchen its so empty XD.

To sift since i dont have a silk screen
i just use a regular hand strainer, kinda like the little ones you find in the baking isle, made of plastic and the screen is pretty small
remove as many twigs as posible unless your green has tricks on the sticks
if so toss them in we will remove them
Grind the green up nice and powdery then sift it. Now the grinder i use is a toothed grinder not the triangle grinder my the grinder i use turns buds into dust if i keep grinding lol
your experience may differ.
the stuff that remains in the sift put it in the grinder again and lightly ground it just to release any slight left overs and sift it

take what was sifted out and toss it back into your sift
sift your sifted ground and be amazed at how many little sticks managed to get through
what you have now is some very sticky powdery green substance
you can smoke this in a bowl take some green you already have and sprinkle this on top
lots of uses or you can cook with it =D
 
blacken said:
Yeah not many people know about the kitchen its so empty XD.

To sift since i dont have a silk screen
i just use a regular hand strainer, kinda like the little ones you find in the baking isle, made of plastic and the screen is pretty small
remove as many twigs as posible unless your green has tricks on the sticks
if so toss them in we will remove them
Grind the green up nice and powdery then sift it. Now the grinder i use is a toothed grinder not the triangle grinder my the grinder i use turns buds into dust if i keep grinding lol
your experience may differ.
the stuff that remains in the sift put it in the grinder again and lightly ground it just to release any slight left overs and sift it

take what was sifted out and toss it back into your sift
sift your sifted ground and be amazed at how many little sticks managed to get through
what you have now is some very sticky powdery green substance
you can smoke this in a bowl take some green you already have and sprinkle this on top
lots of uses or you can cook with it =D
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shit man, i'm still just as confused as before. lol. no worries, it;s prob the weed i just toked.

so what are you trying to get when you sift, the tric heads? how much material can you get from 1/4 oz? i have made cannabutter many times, how is your method different?

:yummy::yummy::yummy::yummy:
 
method is not just to get the trich heads but a little leafy material along with it
and the dry trich covered outer layer of twigs covered in trichs if you tossed them in

removing the sticks and sifting just makes things easier to cook with

before i used to just chunk the buds with butter and sift out the solids from the butter
but this way i just toss in the bud siftings into the cooking butter or onto anything else im cooking not just with the need for canabutter
Now it wont work the same for all foods
some foods have fattier content and will absorb the trichs better so experiment
i try to not just make the traditional sweets
also try and make other things see what works

out of a 1/4oz depending if it has alot of sticks or not
usually about 20-40% is gathered depending on how much non usefull substance you have
 
and that doesn't get strained out of the butter later, the small stuff stays in right? . . . and then you cook the big crap in oil like you would canna butter and strain that again?

sounds lika good method if i understand it correctly. i can't wait to have enough bud to cook again.
 
well, I'm starting week 7 here guys. ill post some pics tonight when the lights come on.

been very busy lately. i'm also due for a res change. that will happen tonight as well.

i'm not gonna yield what i want, especially after culling so many wheel plants. I'm thinking a lb. but no matter, this is for personal use and will be plenty to hold me over. . . it does look delicious!

i'll show you guys tonight, but do you remember when i tried to use some old frozen sts. i thought it didnt work. . . well, that plant def has male parts mixed into the buds, so it did work some, but not like the fresh stuff. if i had given it a second application, it might have seeded some of my girls, which i wouldn't mind, but i doubt it will drop any pollen in time. plus i have the fresh sts girl coming up, so she/he will do it right.
 
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