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Evenin Miller, OK then, here's the thing . I've been a journeyman Electrician for a very long time, and i have worked very hard for a lot of years in my trade. First thing,...the voltage DOES NOT change, it remains as constant as it's supply transformer at the street can deliver. Amperage draw will fluctuate when fans and motor driven appliances cycle on and off. It is however common practice in commercial and industrial wiring to put "lighting" and "power" on separate circuits, even different panels. If someone's light doesn't work, do a simple test, check the voltage at the receptacle, if it's 110-120 your golden , for anything ...at that voltage. The appliance is failing...i don't believe it's because it shared a circuit with a few fans , timers etc. Miller is right in sayin to put them on different circuits though, it's better, for sure. Cheers you guys...
Hey Duggan. Okay. After reading these posts from you guys here I did some research last night. I now have some insight into what the cause could be. I'm betting that it has something to do with this; I have WAY to much load on this circuit.
We have a mobile home. In this mobile home it's wired with 14-2. The lightroom is actually a 9x4 addition. Here's the deal. I overlooked a critical detail. There's two of receptacles in there. I literally had the 600 watt light plugged into "Just One" of these. "I am so very sorry to everyone here for the confusion because of this."
Not only is the Light and in-line fan on this circuit, Not Receptacle, But there is absolutely so much more. There's an AC unit. Two timers (Very nominal I'm sure), and two hundred watts of misc lights for veg room. All on a 10 amp breaker wired with 14-2 Romex.
I have temporarily remedied the problem by separating the load to two separate circuits. For the moment.
Next Thursday I will wire two dedicated circuits to the lightroom.
So my theory is something like; when the lights come on at 6am after being off for 12 hours, the AC has been on since 4am, and the veg lights have been on continuously the circuit is hot and drawing probably max load already. Right ?
Then the circuit opens up for another 600 watt draw and 14-2 won't let through enough current to for up light properly.
Hey something has come up. I gotta go for now. I'll be back in a bit to finish up and have everyone snicker at me for making such a new guy mistake..... lol. I'm almost sure you guys could've made the same mistake. hahahaha. i doubt it.
Catch you all later.
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We worry about power load all the time. Just the other day we were trying to think of a way to get the new portable ac unit power. We decided to run it into the garage on a different power box. So you aren't the only one who has power issues. We just have to adapt and overcome the problem.
Don't feel like you are going to be shamed for asking questions to solve your problem. If you never asked, you would still have the same problem today. We are happy to have started your thinking on the right track. You identified the problem. Good job!!
Yup we all have to go through with balancing power. I solved my problem by running 6 gauge wire to a lighting controller on its own 50A circuit breaker. Now I feel so much better about my electrical draw not overloading anything.
It has crossed my mind to do that with 220. Lower amp draw as well...about half.
A light controller with environment controls even with the possibility of co2 addition. Oh I love fancy gadgets!
I'm working towards solar and a battery banks. 'Spensive as heck, but it'll be nice. Been buying 2 batteries at a time for the last year. Bought some 24v 250w panels too, more to come. And I went with a Midnite Solar Classic 150 charge controller. That thing is AWESOME! I'm going to have my own power grid(s), and hope to have second set of outlets installed in key places so the house can be dual grid. Critical equipment on solar grid, non critical on the commercial.
Anyhow, ahem, yep, a proper stable power supply, wiring sizing and circuit protection is crucial for every grower. My main issue is stable supply. The power company here must be run by crack heads. And the maintenance is shoddy at best unless you're someone with power in the county, then every things nice up to your place.
Thankfully I worked electrical just long enough to know what I'm doing and can avoid zap-ta-cuting myself, letting the 'magic smoke' out of the wires or burning the house down.
You know that's what's in the wires, right? Smoke. Don't let it out or it won't work anymore.
Sorry, been hitting the fresh blue dream a bit much.
Anyhow, ahem, yep, a proper stable power supply, wiring sizing and circuit protection is crucial for every grower. My main issue is stable supply. The power company here must be run by crack heads. And the maintenance is shoddy at best unless you're someone with power in the county, then every things nice up to your place.
Thankfully I worked electrical just long enough to know what I'm doing and can avoid zap-ta-cuting myself, letting the 'magic smoke' out of the wires or burning the house down.
You know that's what's in the wires, right? Smoke. Don't let it out or it won't work anymore.
Sorry, been hitting the fresh blue dream a bit much.
Ha smoke in the wires. Classic. But I feel strongly about everyone having a fire extinguisher as well in their room or next to the tent. We have one quite handy.I'm working towards solar and a battery banks. 'Spensive as heck, but it'll be nice. Been buying 2 batteries at a time for the last year. Bought some 24v 250w panels too, more to come. And I went with a Midnite Solar Classic 150 charge controller. That thing is AWESOME! I'm going to have my own power grid(s), and hope to have second set of outlets installed in key places so the house can be dual grid. Critical equipment on solar grid, non critical on the commercial.
Anyhow, ahem, yep, a proper stable power supply, wiring sizing and circuit protection is crucial for every grower. My main issue is stable supply. The power company here must be run by crack heads. And the maintenance is shoddy at best unless you're someone with power in the county, then every things nice up to your place.
Thankfully I worked electrical just long enough to know what I'm doing and can avoid zap-ta-cuting myself, letting the 'magic smoke' out of the wires or burning the house down.
You know that's what's in the wires, right? Smoke. Don't let it out or it won't work anymore.
Sorry, been hitting the fresh blue dream a bit much.
It has crossed my mind to do that with 220. Lower amp draw as well...about half.
A light controller with environment controls even with the possibility of co2 addition. Oh I love fancy gadgets!
Hey Nis...ya with the power stuff....if you run your stuff at 240V instead of 120V you still use the SAME power . Think about it...with 120V you are using only one "leg" of power....with 240V , you are correct about using half the amperage draw but guess what...now your using both "legs" of power so, you have to x 2 get it. As long as your 120 Volt circuits that are on 15 amp breakers (or fuses) draw no more than around 13 amps , your fine. If you are drawing very close to that and another motor(fan or heater , etc.) kicks in , it may trip that circuit, so ya have to plan it out , cheers Nis.
I should add this as well...if anyone has any electrical Q's...please ask me OK! .........Duggs.
Good move Shiggs ....I like that you sized the feeder wires properly at #6 guage for a 50A sub panel...good job. Very nice set up doing it that way. Put a meter on the main wires some time just to see what the draw is at "full pull". Do you have a clamp on amp meter? Anyhow good to see everyone playing safe!!
We have 20 amp breakers throughout so we are golden there. I understand that power consumption will be the same but just wanted to lower the amp draw. If you say it isn't an issue then I won't worry about it. We are on 3 20 amp breakers currently and when the ac is put in we will be on 4 separate 20 amp breakers. The ac itself pulls 12 amps itself. Thanks for the insight though. It's always nice to know a sparky.
Thanks dirt. We are getting excited about the upcoming harvests so 3 more can get moved in there. The 2 fruit punches and carnival are next up in the rotation to flower.Now that's a lot of bud
Thanks! Your little ones are coming on strong as well.
Yeah I hate having the knowledge of knowing how to fix problems since we all don't want them. They have recovered and we have the solution for that problem...now just waiting for the next one.Great work
You both did a great job of recognizing there was an issue and taking action before it became a bad issue. +REPS for reading the plants and doing something about it!
The rest of the girls look great, too!
I enjoy a good sativa. I am more a sativa type of person and Canna is more indica so I made sure to get one in the mix this time. Just the long flower is the only thing you have to deal with.
It no longer smells like a gym sock so that's a good thing
she is smelling sweeter every day and is sticky as can be. Our 420 scope needs to be cleaned after looking at her trichomes. That it is buddy. And we will have a bunch of it so that's a good thing.
Good move Shiggs ....I like that you sized the feeder wires properly at #6 guage for a 50A sub panel...good job. Very nice set up doing it that way. Put a meter on the main wires some time just to see what the draw is at "full pull". Do you have a clamp on amp meter? Anyhow good to see everyone playing safe!!
I will see if one isn't too expensive Duggs!
better safe than sorry. Don't overload a circuit and keep fire extinguisher near by
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I'm working towards solar and a battery banks. 'Spensive as heck, but it'll be nice. Been buying 2 batteries at a time for the last year. Bought some 24v 250w panels too, more to come. And I went with a Midnite Solar Classic 150 charge controller. That thing is AWESOME! I'm going to have my own power grid(s), and hope to have second set of outlets installed in key places so the house can be dual grid. Critical equipment on solar grid, non critical on the commercial.
Anyhow, ahem, yep, a proper stable power supply, wiring sizing and circuit protection is crucial for every grower. My main issue is stable supply. The power company here must be run by crack heads. And the maintenance is shoddy at best unless you're someone with power in the county, then every things nice up to your place.
Thankfully I worked electrical just long enough to know what I'm doing and can avoid zap-ta-cuting myself, letting the 'magic smoke' out of the wires or burning the house down.
You know that's what's in the wires, right? Smoke. Don't let it out or it won't work anymore.
Sorry, been hitting the fresh blue dream a bit much.
You should check out Tesla's new battery pack for homes. Solar and a few of those babies would do it I would think. m
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Thanks for stopping by with your good vibes. Much appreciated!better safe than sorry. Don't overload a circuit and keep fire extinguisher near by
Nismo and Canna
What I have learned is when one goes perpetual one has to amass tools to help us grow successfully during hot summer months.
I refused to start my grow with out AC suppliment. My garage is 23x22 and my 14k ac does the job very well. I imagine your milage may vary but where I am it's nearing 50 straight days of 90 plus.
Go for it. Before you purchase sure your circuit can handle the load from the ac.
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power ,the home growers biggest hassle i feel , i grow a lot of plants and have diff rooms so a lot of power a lot of extension cords ,might be 5 lights in a room but only 2 using that rooms circuit , the others using other circuits , im forced to be extension cord macgyver.
heirloom, your vision is identical to mine , im buying a property building a cola monster greenhouse and a heirloom solar setup .
happening end of this year ,i cant wait to share my move ,new set up ,new life with all you guys
heirloom, your vision is identical to mine , im buying a property building a cola monster greenhouse and a heirloom solar setup .
happening end of this year ,i cant wait to share my move ,new set up ,new life with all you guys
Canna is out getting 2 - 8,000 btu ACs. Going with 2 smaller ones to be more versatile.
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nice ,could always just grow on a deadliest catch boat LOL thats how i feel this winter im flat out keeping warm , come summer though i bet it will be stinking hot and i whinge about it for sure haha and i will be doing the aircon search
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Ok, made it home from town. I went to two stores in two different states to track those a/c units down. Now waiting on nis to get home so we can run the power for them and get them going. I'm sure we will have pics of them later. Lol