Weasel Forges Ahead

Thanks guys.
It’s been a long day. May have to have a catnap... :). Then I’m going to drag some of those buds out and inspect them more closely for any clues.
 
Damn bro, sounds like the humidity wave reached high up the map. I got it bad here in the northeast USA, it's been like that for better than a month and I lost some Kush nugs to mold. Drying wasn't easy either. I picked up a few Pineapple Chunks in my last order. I tried that strain a few times years ago but couldn't get them to germ. I remember reading that PC is mold resistant which is now surprising me. I'm about to germ a new strain to pair up with Triple Cheese (also a Barneys) and run 2 strains, and I'm on the fence between Incredible Bulk or PC. I want a big harvester and the Kush is straight shit for weight. the Cheese I'm half confident will do a little better. What's your experience with yields on PC? I know IB will clean house with weight, but I also am dying to finally smoke some PC, and now I kinda want to give you another source of info on experience with the strain and see if I get mold too. I'm always up for a challenge, but I do need good yields. What's your thoughts?
 
Funny you should say that Skybound :). I didn’t explain much in my post here. Actually my RH has been low. Its been the opposite here to you - and totally the opposite of normal. This place is usually rainy as hell. Last summer... shit...summer didn’t even happen.
This year though we had day after day of clear warm weather and sunshine. It was like a real place. With a real summer. Doesn’t mean it was dry as a desert- but RH level was a lot more sane than usual.
Anyway- the problem I mentioned and started the thread about, seems to occur in drier conditions. It seems opposite to the normal gray mold in lots of ways, and turns the bud dry and crispy. I can’t detect any sign of spores, or even any obviois damage to the bud other than it being dead and pale. Im starting to believe it’s not even a mold.

Re PC yield. It’s probably middle of the road. I wouldn’t call it a very low yielder- but have to admit that the frequent problems I have with it take a pretty significant cut from the yield. And I find it hard to flower very crowded, even though it kind of likes to grow that way. Multiple/better light sources could help with that I imagine.
It’s related to the cheese. But the Cheese- or at least the Critical Cheese that I grew, yielded quite a lot more. Just wasn’t as good either. The PC remains by far the most highly rated indica-type strain I’ve ever grown, among friends and trading victims. Otherwise I’d have ditched the stupid thing ages ago.
To be fair I haven’t noticed that many other people having these problems though. I’ve seen quite few pics of people’s PCs that looked different than mine- more dense, and more normal. When I started the strain I grew three seeds and flowered them all several rounds- but they all seemed pretty well identical so I just chose one more or less at random.
I complain about mine because it’s very mold prone, grows really scraggly needing a lot of tending, takes a long time to flower for what it is, and is sort of disgusting to work with. Check the first post of my thread from last night if you want to hear me whine about it further. ;)

Yeah I’d love it if you’d grow one. And I really don’t think you’d regret it if the smoke is as good as mine produces.
Also- first time plants from seed tend to grow a little more sturdily and less bushily than clones, it seems to me. So at least the first time around it may behave better.

* By the way, the C. Cheese was also a bit mold prone, though not nearly so much as the PC in my case.
 
You suffer back pain? Is that what you wanted a strain for? Read a post before, dude using Therapy as everyday medicine for his back pain. First time I've read a strain mentioned for it, I'll be ordering... Ive been filling the shed with wood for next winter, man cutting wood hurts after a while. Need to buy a log splitter, few grand investment in my health :rofl:
 
Ha ha. Good to find things in sync on the other side of the planet.
I got a mountain of wood dumped here a few days ago. Traded it for a bunch of PC. But I still have to split most of it more, and stack it. All that splitting and bending over... ugh :(

Also- As it happens,I just gave away one of my CBD Therapy seeds to a friend yesterday and have been thinking about it. I have two left- might sprout one more soon. I can’t say I noticed much pain relief from smoking the one I did grow, but it was relaxing. Very very mild high. I didn’t try eating it as oil or anything. A CBD cob sounds like an interesting idea.
 
I just got an order of Dinafem Dinamed CBD Plus which alleges 20+% of CBD and less than 1% THC. Shortly after, I learned a lot of the CBD on the market is made from hemp. I always wanted to have a CBD strain on hand, and now that I do, I feel it's kid of worthless now.

I read half of the thread last night and will tackle the rest today. What line of nutes do you use and do you make any alterations? I recently learned how to use Hydro Buddy and I'd like to analyze your nute ratios, and get that onto the record. Maybe someone can pinpoint any toxicities that may be leading to your mold crisis? At any rate, having more info is never a bad thing.

Thanks for the feedback about PC. I'm about 90% in favor of going with that, especially since the other strain I'm currently running is Triple Cheese (UK Cheese x Blue Cheese) which essentially has the same composition, just different fruits, lol. I think once I get to offering the choice, they'll complement each other more than TC and IB would.
 
I wasn't sure what to make of the CBD Therapy. I have a feeling this CBD excitement may have been inflated a bit, but what do I know... I just felt like I was smoking an extremely weak indica. It was relaxing, but I also got a little of that dopey feeling I get when I smoke indicas. Never tried putting much effort into brewing it up into some sort of medicinal potion though and I’m tempted to give it another try just in case there’s something there. Another issue is that, late in the game, the breeder announced they really don’t know what the CBD levels of the strain are (between 1% and 20% CBD so that’s a big variation).

As for my nutes- I’m still using Botanicare. Was on the verge of ordering supplies and switching over to Doc Bud’s high-brix system, but had some medical setbacks so for now that’s on hold (though definitely still the plan) and I’m still using up my old jugs.
I just mainly use the PBP Grow and PBP Bloom nutes and dole them out by measuring ppm. If you like I could try to come up with some actual numbers. But I don’t usually dissect things much, and I don’t usually try too hard to tweak things to perfection. Or rather- perfection is when I get a plant to thrive, flower, and finish gracefully at the end without getting burnt from ph problems, overfed, starved, rotted...
If I manage to stay within the basic boundaries of happy ph and nutrient levels, and slide to a decent finish- I’m happy. Sometimes I try to add bloom enhancers and whatnot, but mostly I feel like I’m still working on mastering the basics.

I don’t know of a nutrient problem that would cause the sort of die off I mentioned. Also, generally speaking the fan leaves look ok, and it seems to be affecting the buds first, like mold. When I think over everything and weigh the input I got, I’m still inclined to think it is some sort of fungi/mold. It’s starting to hit my other PC now too, which is quite a bit earlier in flowering. I won’t be able to stay in denial about that much longer since at least two of the top buds on it are already affected.

Just been busy and my grow is even messier than usual. The whole place could use a sanitizing, but I’ll try to get a handle on it and get some pics soonish. I seem to just keep running every day

The one surviving variegated Choc. Mint clone.
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SamSmith said:
Wow that is weird. I wonder what is causing that......
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In the case of this plant Sam I’m confident it’s a genetic mutation. This one was born from seed with it. Variegation - Wikipedia

Tead said:
Ya know.... crazy variegation is one of the symptoms of a virus.....
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The more I think and the more feedback I get re that dry rot issue, the more I gravitate back to thinking it’s a type of fungi - similar to gray mold... or some sort of variation in the gray mold growth cycle that occurs under drier conditions. I dunno....
I still don’t have any real answers, but I’ll add what snippets I have to my mystery mold thread.

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I hear what you're saying about living in the middle happy area of the nutrient spectrum. I recently switched from using GH's entire line to making my own nutes from dry salts. It's so much cheaper, I have way more control of the composition and my finish product registers at about 700 TDS on my .5 meter. This is not strong by any growers measure yet I have all macros and major micros dialed right into the medium ranges of each. I am able to increase P while reducing N in mid bloom and all that jazz.

That aside, some years back, I had issues that stemmed from a potassium deficiency that made those plants susceptible to rapidly drying out which kind of had a snowball effect as that time of year had the air really dry already, so the K def just amplified it. I read Zinc toxicity can kill plants, though IDK if a mild tox would only kill part of a plant. I'll track down the product labels to get the weights and measures of each product, apply the feed chart, then compute the results and compare it to other results I have and am trying to collect, then reference everything against each other. Here are my feed charts for the new nutes I'm using. I made these charts myself using HydroBuddy. It outputs grams per gallon and I (the user) must convert that to the concentration I'm using which is 1 gram equals 10ml.

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Edit - Is this your feedchart? Which bottle has the micros? Also, around which week does the mold start?

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Thanks Skybound. You touch on a few things that have really got me thinking. Unfortunately I’m a really slow thinker so I’m processing things while I chop firewood, assemble scrap parts to fix this f$&&ing washing machine again, work building stuff for my neighbour, clean the yard, harvest the outside gardens, clean the house, take a pet to the vet, climb to the summit of Mount Dirtydishes and back, then spend a couple late hours doing damage control in the grow. And...Etc. Etc.
You probably know how it goes. Don’t we all...
I’ll have to dissect things a little and get back on this. Your link didn’t seem to work- but that’s ok for now, I’ll have to go over the bottles and my feeding habits a little. PC really does seem a bit prone to potassium deficiency - but then it’s prone to a lot of things. I sense a combo of issues probably starting with weak genetics, neglect, nutrient issues combined with prima-donna strain syndrome, topped off with at least one, but maybe several, fungi-related problems.
 
A chunk of the GTx Thai Stick cob. From GTx3, the more Malawi looking of the two crosses. I’ve been enjoying smoking this the last couple days. The cob is very pungent and strong smelling like tobacco.
GTX3 cob

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GTX3 cob

GTX3 cob


I don’t have any corn husks so didn’t bother with them this time. I used fresh bud at time of harvest. Just vac sealed it and threw it somewhere warm for a few weeks. I haven’t tried eating any yet so can’t say what effect it has that way. But it does give a good cure and makes for a richer smoke - a dark dank moist substance as compared to what I’m assuming would be a light fluffy dryish substance if it was dried normally.
 
Sorry about the link, it worked yesterday, but it's just the feedchart I found on the Botanicare site. Yeah, I understand the grind of life, and all the many things that can suck time from your clock and life from your body. I'm a slow learner too, and when you give pot to a slow learner, it just makes the process likely fun to watch from the sideline. My demons must be in stitches when watching me read some shit, forget what I just read, then have to reread it many times just to grasp the basics. If you stayed close to their feedchart though, I can't see your PCs being too far out of range and cannabis is a resilient plant after all. I'm still stuck on how they advertise that PC is a mould and disease resistant strain. None the less, I'll germ a couple in a few days and test the theories.


Barney's Pineapple Chunk
 
Tead said:
I used parchment paper. Worked just fine.

Oh.... I haven't said it lately.... Damn PCs.
Gotta keep traditions after all.
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weas,, friend,, you must, i say, must,, remember that i use vape bags to cob cobs,, which are just oven bags,, but,, i am thinkin one can cob it up without any wrapping at all,, just stuff it in the bag all pressed into a cookie log,, small one,, and vac it up

just trying to ease your burden a touch friend,, so much to do and think and do,, oh, it hurts me,,
 
Oh it hurts me too Nivek. :rofl: The hamsters would be in awe if they saw how fast I spin this wheel all day.
Weaselcracker said:
I don’t have any corn husks so didn’t bother with them this time. I used fresh bud at time of harvest. Just vac sealed it and threw it somewhere warm for a few weeks.
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Yeah - actually what I meant was that I didn’t wrap it in anything- just sealed it up
in the bag. Did that with the last few plants I pulled. It works exactly the same as far as I can see.

I wrote a bunch of gibberish earlier in response to Skybound re the PC but decided my dissecting of the issues was much too boring to post. A dozen possible answers is sort of the same as no answer at all.

Friggin wire busted off my ph probe tonight and the spare didn’t work- so I’m back to the Stone Age here trying to determine ph by using the ph test drops. Tomorrow night I’ll try to dissect that too, and hopefully re-solder the electrodes. Or something...:hmmmm:
 
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