Volks Grow

[CanbisMxmus]

No, I didn't root all of them before putting them in the machine... so the ones that developed roots quicker, are larger. I guess I am perpetuating, though it wasn't originally anticipated. I felt like if there were empty slots in the VG, I was wasting potential...

 

[OntarioDude]

Hey CMX,
Glad the watering/feeding tip came in handy, very nice & vigorously looking plants. Also alot less work on your part. Like my friend says" There weeds, they'll do fine! Don't love them to death"

I got your PM but unfortunately I can't respond because I don't have enough post to respond to pm's yet....lol I wish I knew that before I typed a reply the length of a short story.....lol.....blah..blah...blah Then when I hit submit it gave me the bad news.... 20 minutes of my time never to be seen again

Keep them green CMX. Here's one back at ya

Cheers,
OD

 

[OntarioDude]

Wow, some are waaay bigger than others. Are you running a perpetual/staggered harvest?

Hey CM,
Perpetual / staggered harvests would only work well if all plants were not feeding out of a common tray as in any of the rotational gardens.

IMO it would be very unhealthy and possibly deadly to a plant with only 1 or 2 sets of true leaves, being fed the same nutes as a plant 2 to 3 times larger.

Cheers,
OD

 

[WheeloFortune]

thats true,

but there's nothing stopping you from growing them outside the wheel for a couple few weeks before throwing them into full nute regimen in the wheel

 

[WheeloFortune]

thats what im doing to solve the nute problem inherent to perpetual growing with one res.

 

[The Prof]

What are you gonna do when your plants hit 2 to 3' they gonna be touching the light during flowering

 

[WheeloFortune]

who me? my autoflower genetics will only let the plant get to 15" tall maximum.

and if you were growing normal atrains you would just do 12/12 on them out of the wheel to get them flowering nicely.

it does suck that i will have a bit of trouble giving them secondary nutes to increase resin production, etc, etc. at the right times.

 

[OntarioDude]

thats true,

but there's nothing stopping you from growing them outside the wheel for a couple few weeks before throwing them into full nute regimen in the wheel

Hey WOF,
I'm with you 100% on that statement. You want to at least make sure they are all at the same stage if they are being fed out of a common res.

Cheers,
OD

 

[Propa Gator]

Stagger harvest with multiple wheels. Batch grow each. Simple, no?
Come on, laugh and shake your head one time. PG

 

[OntarioDude]

Stagger harvest with multiple wheels. Batch grow each. Simple, no?
Come on, laugh and shake your head one time. PG

That would work PG,
Decide on a 6-7 week strain. Start the first wheel then 2 weeks later start the second wheel, 2 weeks later start the 3rd wheel. Then about every 2-3 weeks you would be very very happy and so would all your friends

Cheers,
OD

 

[Keith Lake]

CMax - I love the "positive control" benchmark of running the same strain in soil - parallel; great idea.
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[TorturedSoul]

IMO it would be very unhealthy and possibly deadly to a plant with only 1 or 2 sets of true leaves, being fed the same nutes as a plant 2 to 3 times larger.

thats true,

but there's nothing stopping you from growing them outside the wheel for a couple few weeks before throwing them into full nute regimen in the wheel

thats what im doing to solve the nute problem inherent to perpetual growing with one res.

Isn't the reservoir just a wide pan at the bottom that the plants' RW get ran "through?"

Couldn't you replace the tray with several skinny ones that only a few rows are serviced from? Yeah, it'd be a PITA but would allow you to either stagger your harvests or to grow strains with different feeding requirements side-by-side.

 

[Propa Gator]

TS, you have a devious sideways logic that was never in a box to come out of. I can't wait to hear why and how this PITA idea won't get it done.
Hey CMX, you still rolling them bare bones? Like the biker boys downtown with their fixed-wheel bicycles, just the essentials and no fluff.

 

[TorturedSoul]

TS, you have a devious sideways logic that was never in a box to come out of.

'Gator, thanks for the kind words. I literally LOLed when I read the above - and I haven't even managed a fake little public smile in a week or more.

You ought to look into a career talking jumpers in off the ledge.

 

[CanbisMxmus]

Wow, great stuff guys. For my nutes, I am using pretty basic stuff, 50%bloom, 50% grow, liquid guano, and just a bit of molasses. My whole take on the situation is that I can always add/remove plants as necessary, I never counted on anything to come out of the VG, just so that anything that does, is a bonus. I have a whole regiment of plants that are growing and continuing on my previous growth technique(s). This first run is like a test drive, "let's see what this thing can do..." kind of attitude, so everything is fair game. With the experience and tips from this cycle, I will be well prepared to do an organized and effective second run, with most experimentation aside.

I've been quarreling with myself over the shared nutrients in such different stages of plant growth, but as long as I keep the nutes at a happy medium, I think everything should be fine. Yes it stops me from being able to use my specialty products that boost certain aspects of plant growth, but when I started growing, all I had was basic grow and bloom nutes, nothing else. Anything that comes from this is all experience, and bonus buds.

As for size of the plants, if/when they get out of control, I will tackle that situation then.

I love the idea of nutrient troughs in the flood pan, that's using the ol' noodle, but much easier (though not as cost effective) to just get more VG units and run cycles. Many excellent suggestions, points, and tips, thanks all. Bong rips and vapes all around!!!
More soon...

 

[WheeloFortune]

tor, I dont think any one actually answered your question.

your referring to the flood tray? I have an 18 gal resevoir that floods the tray under the wheel once a day. I try to vhange the res every week. but sometimes i let it go 2.

i think your idea would be hard to implement. maybe a sprayer system like that diy thread could spray from different resevoirs easy enough to time it for different plants at different stages.

 

[CanbisMxmus]

The tray that the plants run through is the flood pan, the flood pan is filled from the resevoir by a pump on a timer to flood and drain on a schedule. In order to create a multi-channel flood pan, a person would have to create a supply and drain for each channel, and have seperate resevoirs for each, or manually fill each channel. It would be rather labor intensive, but unique by far.

 

[Mr Smith]

Very cool machine you got going. Its extremely interesting. You have experience with it? Is humidity a issue? Does it take a special medium or is it rockwool or clay pellets? You use alot of tape? Sorry for so many questions. Do nutrients dribble into the buds? Whats your time difference in the perpetual grow op?

 

[CanbisMxmus]

Hi Mr. Smith, welcome to the grow, I'm more than happy to answer questions, but please read through the thread first, as many questions are answered there. Also be sure to check out WheeloFortune, and Maxximus' Volksgarden grows as well. Enjoy!

 

[Mr Smith]

Done reading it. Do you think humidity will be a issue with the machine? Perpetual is accidental but do you see benifits with it or would it be better to load with clones with same size root mass? Looks best to me to support 10 to 15 day clones. Root mass looks very limited, is there a catcher in the bottom for the cubes to grow out of? I realize that this is a test grow in new territory but I dont know anybody that grows this style so I am intersted beyond belief. I am the opposite of you growing since I switched from ebb to aero/ntf. I like the speed and growth from aero but like the space saving compactness of this machine and even considered picking up a omega.