Velk's First Grow Journal - Coco - Auto - LED

Velk said:
So should I put them in pots of water the ones in solo cups


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I'm sorry I don't understand. If you leave those plants that are in the solo cup in the pot of coco your roots will come out of the holes in the solo and into your pot of coco. You will essentially have two plants growing out of one container. It's best to have the plant in the solo on the floor or raised a bit so it's not soaking in its own runoff. Good luck.
 
No man. You want the air to prune them or it will be like growing in a hydroponic rez or you could go hempy if you wanted. You'll never get the plant out of the container to transplant though. Like I said roots shouldn't come out the bottom unless in hydro or hempy. Don't leave your plants in standing water and don't put them in another pot of soil or coco unless that's how you plan on growing. I've seen people do that, Cut off the bottom of the solo and put it in an empty pot.
 
Yea I get what you mean the roots had already started digging in to the other pots coco sorted that out put it on a mini drainage tray in the middle so will be getting loads of par from the LEDs I also had a tidy and rolled all the tops of the pots down so they get more light and air flow
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I also noticed I had set my timer to 19 hours on 5 off lol so fixed it now and will be running 20on 4 off

I've seen that a lot what is hempy? Could you enlighten me please.

And thanks for dropping by with help as usual ...


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Looks perfect! I don't hempy so hopefully someone with more experience can chime in. From what I understand Hempy is growing in some kinda medium. I've seen soil, perlite, hydroton, coco, rockwool. The medium is in a small container that site inside another larger container. The larger container has drain holes up mid way. So when you water your medium the container under the pot fills with water. It doesn't over flow because the hole midway up and each time you water you replace the water in the second container. The roots grow through the medium and into the second container. It's like a rez under the plant.
 
Hope I'm not spamming you velk!

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I'm using a lid from OJ to keep my pot out of the runoff. I like your tray situation though!

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Here is my GSC Xtrm grown in the small pot I use to start seeds. No roots out the bottom and it's growing great! Coco works a treat for tight spaces. I may try to make my little 2"x1.5 box fit a bunch of these little budsicles for a perpetual sog.
 
Thanks pal trying to get it as perfect as I can in there hopefully the little pot ones do okay on transplant deliverys taking ages wish I just went shop and got some lol

The hempy stuff sounds cool I'll have a little look on google get some info on it


Also on one or two of the plants the inner is
More lighter green and is much darker on the ends especially the problematic looking one doesn't look to serious but if it is something would rather take some action now rather than later many thanks



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And I'm also realising it's going to be a lot harder to water the plants when the other 2 are transplanted in to the other pots I think will be looking for a drip feed system just something cheap that does the job have you any light to shine on this subject ?


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Velk said:
Thanks pal trying to get it as perfect as I can in there hopefully the little pot ones do okay on transplant deliverys taking ages wish I just went shop and got some lol

The hempy stuff sounds cool I'll have a little look on google get some info on it


Also on one or two of the plants the inner is
More lighter green and is much darker on the ends especially the problematic looking one doesn't look to serious but if it is something would rather take some action now rather than later many thanks



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Hempys are lets say a 5 gallon bucket 1 hole drilled about 2 inches up for drain. Bottom of pot layer the perlite to just over the hole . And then what ever medium you want to use up to the top. So the bottom perlite section acts as the reservoir. All in one bucket. I think @BedroomFarmer was thinking more of a ppk type wicking setup.

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Islandgrow said:
Hempys are lets say a 5 gallon bucket 1 hole drilled about 2 inches up for drain. Bottom of pot layer the perlite to just over the hole . And then what ever medium you want to use up to the top. So the bottom perlite section acts as the reservoir. All in one bucket. I think @BedroomFarmer was thinking more of a ppk type wicking setup.

"carpe diem"
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THATS IT! +reps. I didn't understand how the rez worked. It's not water it's perlite in the bottom. Thank you
 
BedroomFarmer said:
When the leaves start to lighten up it's time to bump the nutes up. Try a few more ml and go up if you don't notice a change in 3-4 days. That budsicle as fuzz calls it lol, It's flushing so I don't have a weight. Maybe 10grams dry. It's really airy. My box has to be upgraded in the lights dept.
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Sweet budsicle btw did you have it on a drip

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BedroomFarmer said:
When the leaves start to lighten up it's time to bump the nutes up. Try a few more ml and go up if you don't notice a change in 3-4 days. That budsicle as fuzz calls it lol, It's flushing so I don't have a weight. Maybe 10grams dry. It's really airy. My box has to be upgraded in the lights dept.
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I've bumped up the nutes from yesterday even tho not a lot it's a lot more than what it was now getting 2ml of a&b 2ml rhizo 2ml cal mag and gave it a dose of cannazym tonight , he's spot on with the name .... it looks yummy


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Hey IG! Thank you! I have it on a much simpler drip then this. Here you go velk. This didn't cost too much to put together.

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How I made my drip system, hope it helps. There are many ways to skin a cat but this works for me.
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You need a pump. I use a Eco 633 gph pump. You have to pay attention to the head height. This one says 7.5'.
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That means this pump will push water vertically up to 7.5'. This is important if your rez is tall you want to make sure you have good pressure. I've ran this pump from 4 to 9 plants no problem.
These are the types of fittings for your mainline 1/2" tubing. You have compression fitting (I use)
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And you have 1/2" barbs. This one has a valve to stop water. They sell ones without the ball valve.
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Here is what the 1/2" barb and the 1/2" compression fitting look like on the 1/2" mainline tubing.

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Here we have your driper tubing/ spaghetti line. It comes in a roll it's 1/4" tubing that comes out of the 1/2" mainline and goes into your pot

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Here is 1/4" barb. I use the T type but the have ones with only two barbs. These go into your mainline to connect to the 1/4" tubing

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Dripper. Since I'm not using a big pump like a sump pump I cannot use the normal drip irrigation products. Stuff like Manifolds, pressure compensating drippers or button emitters, and antisiphon valves may not work since there is not much pressure in these little pumps. I use these flag emitters because they are pretty much free flow and you can open them to clean if it gets clogged! You can use anything you like. Halos, steaks, even make a ring with 1/4" tubing.

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1/4" punch. This is what your use to punch a hole into your 1/2" mainline so you can put a 1/4" barb and connect the 1/4" spaghetti tube.

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Here is what it looks like all connected. 1/2" mainline tubing. Either poly or vinyl. I use poly 1/2" because it's rigid and can stand up on its own. I punched a hole with the blue punch. Push in my barb and push on the 1/4" spaghetti/ feeder tubing.

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It ends up being water tight. I have leaks sometimes but I just wiggle the 1/4" barb until it makes a good seal.

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Here we have the 1/2" mainline that comes out of my rez. I punched a hole put a barb, some spaghetti tube, and my flag drippers. This allows air to enter the tubes once the pump shuts off. If you don't add an anti siphon hole in your tube once the pump shuts off you will continue to be irrigating your plants or flood your room.

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Ok so back to barbs and compression fittings. You can use a barb that comes with the pump. screw it into the pump and push the 1/2" tubing in. For me. This didn't work. My barbs were the exact same size as my 1/2" tube so I ended up with a compression fitting. One side goes on the tube the other slips into a female pvc piece.

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I'm using a pvc part. One side is threaded and screws into the pump the other side is female and the compression fitting slides in there. I like this because it makes it easy to dismantle for cleaning.

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Now you make your layout. No matter what it can never be straight tubing. If you want even waterings to your girls you have to have the 1/2" mainline loop into itself. I've done a rectangle with 9 plants. This works for my current 4. Use your punch to make your holes. Make sure they are equally spaced I think it was 8-12" being ideal.

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Put on your choice of emitters or drippers. I liked the flag ones. Home depot had a few different ones, I went with the most open ones. You can run open lines but a lot of water came out pretty quick. Their are many other styles of drippers. Here they are steaked into the pot

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Elevate your pot so it's not sitting in dirty water.

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Wet/dry vac for the saucers.

Once you set up your system put some cups under each dripper. Turn on your system and make sure each cup is filled the same amount at the same time. Also note you don't need to have two 1/4" lines like I have it but I wasn't going to buy two different sets of barbs. Now put in your plants. Turn on your system and see how long it takes to get run off. Buy a seconds or 1 minutes timer based on that. Not the 15 min cycle timer. I have a seconds timer and run between 1- 2:45min 3-4 times a day. Your going to want a strong air pump or another small fountain pump to stir your nutrients. I use a air pump because the 100gph pump I was using got my water hot. Think about what rez your going to use. I have a brute trash can. It's nice because it's not too wide. I'm able to get down to 3-5 gal of water in that trash can before the pump doesn't work. I also use a 5gal bucket and I can get that down to 1-2 gal before the pump can't pick up anymore water. If you have a long container you may not be able to fully utilize it.

IG. Here is my super simple drip.

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Little 100gph pump
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Hole in tubing. Stops siphon!
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Little update .....

After rolling down the tops of the pots they are getting more light and airflow I also lowerd the LEDs by a few inches ☀️☀️.

The runts at the back have caught up they enjoyed the nute up I think ....

The two in the small pots are a tinyest bit droopy (roots were coming out the solo cups and digging in the coco below ) should perk up in a day or so perlite should be here soon so will be loved in a big pot .

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Big thanks to the people who have been helping along the way . everybody watching happy growing 420


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Velk said:
Your set up loots amazing is there anything a bit more basic I was thinking a gravity feed or something as I don't want to spend much more your set up looks mental bro ..☔️


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I did want to do a gravity thing but everything online was saying it needed to be up high to get good even pressure when you get lower in the rez. I also ran into the problem of nutes settling but an airstone would fix that. I tried using a 1 gal container but ended up with the blue bucket and pump. You could probably set something up though that you pour water into for each feed and it distributes all the feed water to the plants.

Babies are looking good! :thumb:
 
I saw a few mini self feeding vacummed ones but doubt there any good may get feeding spikes and way to fit it to a 2 litre bottle to feed or was thinking u see the pressurised feeding things /pest control things was thinking I could maybe fill that attach a tube or two together and have a mini pump pressure feed.


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