Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant SOG

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

Hey everyone! Sorry, I'm completely buried with stuff to do around here, and probably will be through the weekend, so I'll be kind of scarce for the next few days... I really appreciate all the kind words, and I will get to everyone's comments when I have some time!

I'll be stopping in here and there, but I'm about a week behind on most of my subscriptions, and haven't been over to welcome any of the new members in a while.

I also scrapped the 36 clones I took a week or so ago, because I realized I don't have the space or the time at the moment to work with them...but that's the good thing with moms...there will be plenty more clones in the future!

I hope everyone has a great Memorial Day...just please don't forget the purpose of the holiday, and take a moment this weekend to remember our nation's fallen warriors. Those service men and women, along with their families, paid the ultimate price for the rest of us...

Hi Vape
I have a quick question if you don't mind??
You said you may only dunk from now on and I'm wondering if you are spraying to foliar feed the tea also????

I have been, but at this point I'm probabily going to stop. You can see from the pics that any kind of foliar spray will also drench the buds now, and while I don't think that would be a problem with a quality microbe tea, I don't think it's necessary either. Maybe Doc will offer his opinion, I know he's continued spraying with teas until the end on some of his grows, but he has also said he tries not to directly spray the buds...

 

[Doc Bud]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

Hey everyone! Sorry, I'm completely buried with stuff to do around here, and probably will be through the weekend, so I'll be kind of scarce for the next few days... I really appreciate all the kind words, and I will get to everyone's comments when I have some time!

I'll be stopping in here and there, but I'm about a week behind on most of my subscriptions, and haven't been over to welcome any of the new members in a while.

I also scrapped the 36 clones I took a week or so ago, because I realized I don't have the space or the time at the moment to work with them...but that's the good thing with moms...there will be plenty more clones in the future!

I hope everyone has a great Memorial Day...just please don't forget the purpose of the holiday, and take a moment this weekend to remember our nation's fallen warriors. Those service men and women, along with their families, paid the ultimate price for the rest of us...



I have been, but at this point I'm probabily going to stop. You can see from the pics that any kind of foliar spray will also drench the buds now, and while I don't think that would be a problem with a quality microbe tea, I don't think it's necessary either. Maybe Doc will offer his opinion, I know he's continued spraying with teas until the end on some of his grows, but he has also said he tries not to directly spray the buds...

I'd probably spray yours for another weed or so, mainly the lower fan leaves, avoiding the buds.
Of course, if you had some Amaze or Bloomit, I'd spray the latter for the stage you're at. Raise the brix right up until the end!

But judging by the looks, you've already exceeeded the "highest quality" bar by a long shot. I think you're into the "legendary" quality zone now. You'll see when you finally taste it.......I'm tellin' ya....you're gonna be surprised.

 

[BigIrishDoode]

Re: Vapedogg223’s Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

wow vape your knocking it out of the park everyday im sure high brix is in my future when im not sure,, i cant afford to dump anymore money into my hobby/med production for a while i have spent heavily since december other things need attention now, but at least i have great organic nute system, ,i love how perfect the plants look the soft colors and the trichs and pistils look stellar! you and doc are on to something big and important, something that need much more attention from all of us globally , thank you for journaling this

 

[SweetestSkunk]

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Vapedogg I just read through the whole journal and I must say it's a real treat reading your journal. You are the first member to be friend me here and I feel I will learn a ton of wealthy info from you and others on this board. I hope some day to be able to present a journal as fine as you have my friend! Excellent job in every aspect. You explain everything down to the last letter. I love seeing someone is into perfecting his craft..... and after all being a farmer is a craft. Thanks again for taking the time to share links and a wealth of info. i'm going to have a blast following all of your posts. Now that's a SOG!

 

[Deege420]

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ohhh mannn! first he takes my Motm victory right from my grasp, now he puts my plant to shame! wtf. lol jk idk I'm high. looking very good and frosty vape! stop by my journal and criticize if you'd like! +reps for the beauties!

 

[seagem]

Re: Vapedogg223’s Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

Just wanted to stop by and see how things have been to you. Hope the weather has been holding out for you. I know it's a Bitch.

Anyway looks like you'll have alot of catching up to do. Seems like most are so busy it's been hard for me to check out new member's too.

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

It's a warrior/man thing...females are much more compassionate.
Actually, no we're not...I LOVE to watch them die!!!!!!

WOW!!!! So frosty they almost look purple in that second pic.

You're going to have some mighty fine smoke there...keep up the good work

I'll light the match!!!
We can do the hippy chick thing and go without...lol.

The mosquito dunks seemed to have worked well...there's still a few I see flying around, but they are an endangered species in my garden...whether they know it or not!

I think the outbreak happened because I top dressed with the manure and EWC...When the worm castings start to dry out they are like dry coffee grounds on top of the pot...add in the manure and water the whole thing with high quality teas and I made a fungus gnat breeder! The consistency of the EWC on top seems to provide perfect conditions for them to breed! I inspected all my extra soil and supplies, and do see any sign of the little bastards outside of the grow room.

for the kind words! Colors are tough to get to come across correctly with the combination of HPS lighting and flash...but the frosty colas in those group shots do take on a cool bluish hue!

Wow, nice clean pics. Lovin the group shot the best, I'm only four days behind you in my grow. I love the feeling of a good harvest.. and you sir have one on the way!

brother! Next update I'll post a few more of the group shots for you!

Great shots, love the colors and the sticky on the yellow leave's as well. Truly Awesome. Are your waxed up like doc's did.

These photos show the plant is vibriant, healthy, and still going. Love this method.

I wonder If I can move my Berry Bomb grow over to the Brix at full strength?

I have a question been rolling around to ask.

If dipping pot is messy and takes some time in the tea is it possible for someone a good drawer to design an eb and flow on the air pots, when dipping completed all Brix draines back to the container.

Im just trying to not get a big messy calderon in the plant room. Does it make alot of mess?

And wondering how much soil the air-pots loose while dunking.

I think you can switch any plant over to high Brix...the difficulty involved is going to depend on what's already in the soil as fas as organic material and amendments, and what you add when you switch. I ran into some problems with my moms, but they were in a mix that had a lot of dolomite in it...which never did fix my magnesium deficiencies, by the way.

How messy it is dunking the pots depends on the type of containers/totes you use and your space. Once you try it a couple times you'll develop a routine that works for you. Just don't get discouraged at first. Maybe consider laying down a piece of poly on the floor and have some old towels around to throw down and absorb the inevitable spills...

The watering system you're describing sounds a lot like an "old school" flood and wick, drain to waste setup, and should work fine. Air-Pots however, would not be the ideal container for this setup because of the raised bottoms. I would have to fill up all the drain channels in the grow tray, and then another 2+ inches above that before the water would even touch the soil. I think a standard pot, or fabric pot, like Smart Pots would work great for that.

If I were going to water with that method, I would close the drain and pour the water/tea/etc. into the tray so that the water level is a few inches above the bottom of the pot and let the soil wick up whatever it's going to. After the pots absorbed what they wanted, I'd open the drain in the tray, and let any excess drain out. After a few times you'd have a pretty good idea how much to add...ideally you would want to add just enough that when the pots were done absorbing the liquid, the only waste left to drain would be what's in the drain channels in the bottom of the tray.

Did that make any sense? I will be trying to come up with some king of easier system for watering, because what I'm doing now is a lot like work!
As far as losing soil, it's not as much as you'd think. I'll be posting pics of the root ball when I'm done.

Unbelievable quality there Vape!

RE: smells. High Brix is going to smell and taste different. The terpenes are fully developed and in hgher amounts than a lower brix plant. You're going to notice subtleties in taste and smell that you've not noticed before.

Wait till you see how smooth the smoke is.....

Gorgeous grow!

bro! I've got my fingers crossed that things continue to go well! I try not to count my chickens before they are hatched, so to speak...but I really can't wait to try it!

Great photo update Vape! If they are even half as good as they look, your in for quite a treat.
Keep up the great work!

I can only hope!

Wow Vape those girls are looking soo freaking good! Awesome job my man.

I did agree with them on some things. It's scary crazy what is allowed to pass as "organic" when it comes to our food. Just about anyone can meet the criteria and slap an "organic" sticker on the food you are buying. Then be able to charge you 2-3 bucks more for what ever it is you are buying.

Weather or not Organic foods are better for us has yet to be proven. As for if they taste different, Penn and Teller did a blind taste test and more often then not people picked the non organic foods as organic. Now I realize this test can be edited for TV to prove their point. Just watch to show and decide for yourself. Personally there needs to be stricter regulations on what passes for organics, before I see the sense of increasing my food bill 50-100 bucks a week.

The topic of that show and what Vape is doing are two totally different things. Hence why I didn't go into much detail. The conversation was steering towards organics in general so I thought it prudent to tell people to go what that show.

I enjoy Pen & Teller's Bullshit! very much, and I agree totally. I know the show you are speaking of, and they were accurate in what they were saying, whis was primarily, just because it has a label that says "organic" doesn't mean that it will he any healthier, or taste any better...but almost always means it will cost more!

I think what this country needs right now is one giant enema, to flush away the tons of bullshit our government shovels at us daily!

And once more for good measure, Vapedogg, +reps man!

brother!

no matter how many times you see them buds you just get amazed every time, its what we all strive to grow, i know its what i hope to achieve at some point in my life

very much bro!

Hey Vape, your garden is looking extremely healthy and delicious!!! sorry I haven't been around too much lately but really happy to see that your plants are kicking buds and taking names!!! lol

Ice! I haven't been around much myself! So busy lately...thanks for stopping in! I have to get over to your journal when I have some time!

What an amazing grow, the 49 plant scrog is just fantastic and has made me re-think what's possible
I had never heard of high Brix untill reading your Journal, (Hats off and to Icemud and DocBud too) and can see the obvious benefits, not just for meds but all the food we eat, and the food animals eat before we eat them! I don't just want your plant, I want a high Brix diet.

Your meds look like they will be Top Drawer!!

bro! The nutritional benefits for growing food excite me just as much as the potential for growing our plant! Doc bought me a long time ago that top shelf meds are within everyones reach!

wow vape your knocking it out of the park everyday im sure high brix is in my future when im not sure,, i cant afford to dump anymore money into my hobby/med production for a while i have spent heavily since december other things need attention now, but at least i have great organic nute system, ,i love how perfect the plants look the soft colors and the trichs and pistils look stellar! you and doc are on to something big and important, something that need much more attention from all of us globally , thank you for journaling this

I definable know what you mean about spending money! I view it as a hobby though, so I don't mind spending money as long as it brings me enjoyment!

Doc has really started us on something special with using high Brix methods for growing our plant...it opens up a whole new world, where we can rediscover strains that may never have been grown to their full genetic potential!

This grow is far from perfect...my soil ran out of energy early in the grow...my temps are much higher than I want, and don't get me started on the gnats! The weather here is making things difficult earlier than I had hoped...when my new climate controlled room is running I should really be able to grow something special!

Vapedogg I just read through the whole journal and I must say it's a real treat reading your journal. You are the first member to be friend me here and I feel I will learn a ton of wealthy info from you and others on this board. I hope some day to be able to present a journal as fine as you have my friend! Excellent job in every aspect. You explain everything down to the last letter. I love seeing someone is into perfecting his craft..... and after all being a farmer is a craft. Thanks again for taking the time to share links and a wealth of info. i'm going to have a blast following all of your posts. Now that's a SOG!

I fear you give me more credit than I am due...but for the kind words!

I learned as a young adult that anything worth doing, is worth doing to the best of your ability! That and a little attention to detail has served me pretty well...

Doc (and others here) have brought growing to a level that is more accurately described as art, and as such he has become more of an artist than a grower! That's the level I am striving to achieve!

ohhh mannn! first he takes my Motm victory right from my grasp, now he puts my plant to shame! wtf. lol jk idk I'm high. looking very good and frosty vape! stop by my journal and criticize if you'd like! +reps for the beauties!

Sorry about that bro...it was out of my hands!



I'll try to stop over and take a look when I have a minute! I'm completely buried around here with stuff to do, and I tend to obsess when I know I'm behind and it just causes me more stress! I will get caught up again...eventually...I hope!

Just wanted to stop by and see how things have been to you. Hope the weather has been holding out for you. I know it's a Bitch.

Anyway looks like you'll have alot of catching up to do. Seems like most are so busy it's been hard for me to check out new member's too.

I'm feeling pretty good, but the biggest problem I'm having with the weather is that it's either pouring rain out, or in the 90s! I still have a lot to do with the vegetable beds, that I can't do in the rain/mud, and the heat is complicating my indoor grow!

 

[seagem]

Re: Vapedogg223’s Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

Sorry about my absent mind, there are just those days when my mind thinks right but it never gets to my fingers and my words come out all mixed up. I NEED SOME SMOKE to clear my head. Here is a better description of what I meant, by the way you can read minds. Tou knew exactly what I was speaking about.

Here is what I thought I'd do, yes a fill and drain system sort of.

I guess it will a test and trial type of thing.
You can send the rain here we need it.
have a good one

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

Sorry about my absent mind, there are just those days when my mind thinks right but it never gets to my fingers and my words come out all mixed up. I NEED SOME SMOKE to clear my head. Here is a better description of what I meant, by the way you can read minds. Tou knew exactly what I was speaking about.

Here is what I thought I'd do, yes a fill and drain system sort of.

I guess it will a test and trial type of thing.
You can send the rain here we need it.
have a good one

I'd love for you to take a step back...I fear you might be making things a bit more complicated than they need to be...

IMHO the airlines and stones aren't needed, neither is the gravel...any amount you elevate the pot will just be waste. We're not doing hydroponics here, so you only want the liquid in the tray until the pots absorb what they want, I'm sure you'd be talking a matter of minutes, not hours...then drain to waste.

Since we're using tea that has to be brewed, there's no point in reservoirs or pumps to complicate things...brew up the batch, mix up the diluted tea, dump it in with five gallon buckets, then come back in a little while and drain off what's left... Done!

Things might be different if you had a warehouse full of trays to water, but I think for our scale, the more simple I can keep things, the better!

 

[seagem]

Re: Vapedogg223’s Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

Yes I dont want more work. I am not supposed to lift over 5 pounds. I see what you mean about the gravel /air sotnes. I was not even thinking about that with the air posts and how they are constructed. So, just have the son make a table, line it and water from there.

Sorry my head is not on right today for some reason.

 

[BigIrishDoode]

Re: Vapedogg223’s Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

well im making my rounds before im offline for a few weeks, i shall deeply miss all the progress and chatter im my 420 mag familys journals,,,=-{ keep up the good work, i may peek in on everybody a bit from my moms house

 

[MsMe]

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Seagem- I'm going to try to post a link to a grow that uses a system similar to what I think Vape is describing but I haven't posted a link before so idk if it'll work...

SteveHman's Grow 7.0. Advanced LED - Multiple Strains

He used smartpots in a concrete mixing tub & had a shopvac to suck up any extra water.

I hope Vape doesn't mind my jacking his thread but I think this will be post #50 for me and I can PM after this????

Crossing my fingers...

 

[MsMe]

Re: Vapedogg223’s Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

The mosquito dunks seemed to have worked well...there's still a few I see flying around, but they are an endangered species in my garden...whether they know it or not!

I think the outbreak happened because I top dressed with the manure and EWC...When the worm castings start to dry out they are like dry coffee grounds on top of the pot...add in the manure and water the whole thing with high quality teas and I made a fungus gnat breeder! The consistency of the EWC on top seems to provide perfect conditions for them to breed! I inspected all my extra soil and supplies, and do see any sign of the little bastards outside of the grow room.

for the kind words! Colors are tough to get to come across correctly with the combination of HPS lighting and flash...but the frosty colas in those group shots do take on a cool bluish hue!

Glad you were victorious in battle!!!!!
Gnat Bastards
I know they don't really harm anything but when your growing in your home it can be a major nuisance to have them flying around all the time.

I'll keep in mind what you said about the EWC & manure because I transplanted into fully high brix soil this weekend but will probably have to add some of both after a while.

They are truly beautiful plants and waiting MONTHS till I have my own to enjoy is going to be torture for me

as always and it's truly a pleasure to watch you work

 

[seagem]

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MsMe - Just had a look at stevehmans grow link you provided yes very similar. I might be able to just get the concrete tubs sounds pretty inexpensive. I've got some irons in the fire Im waiting on fruition so will see how things go.

Seagem- I'm going to try to post a link to a grow that uses a system similar to what I think Vape is describing but I haven't posted a link before so idk if it'll work...

SteveHman's Grow 7.0. Advanced LED - Multiple Strains

He used smartpots in a concrete mixing tub & had a shopvac to suck up any extra water.

I hope Vape doesn't mind my jacking his thread but I think this will be post #50 for me and I can PM after this????

Crossing my fingers...

 

[MsMe]

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Glad it helped. I was trying to delete the post or the link because I think its rude to post a link to someone else's grow (feels like cheating...lol) but I can't.

Vape...please feel free to delete it or edit it....wont jack your thread again...I promise.

 

[SurfBuddy]

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Vapedogg- hope your work load eases soon.

BTW, did you try GLR lighting for veg? Your thoughts?

 

[seagem]

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MsMe - I think Vape will understand totally. He suggested the same to begin with. Have a great one.

 

[MSquared]

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Vapedogg- hope your work load eases soon.

BTW, did you try GLR lighting for veg? Your thoughts?

Hey there SurfBuddy!
I am not sure about Vape, but I use all high brix for all stages of my plants and I use to be a 18/6 for the longest time. It had really good results, but now I sue GLR and have found it to be just as good if not better than 18/6. Not to mention all the other benefits that come with it. lower heat, lower costs - those 2 alone have kept me with GLR and I am not going back.
I have used this with several strains from Indica doms to Sativa doms and everything in between and have found no ill effects or early bloom as some might think could happen.
I sure hope this helps

 

[Deege420]

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hey! i hear ya on that one man! No worries we are all busy people

And I was just kidding; Well deserved victory,

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant

Hey everyone! I wanted to get this update posted first, then I'll be giving the girls a tea dunking and a spritz. If I have any energy left after that I'll be responding to any posts I missed.

If it takes me a while to respond please don't think I'm ignoring anyone...it's just that I don't have much time right now to sit down and concentrate on much! I've been busy doing a lot of manual labor around here, which takes a lot out of me. When I can't do anymore, I usually need to medicate...heavily...so when I do sit down, I haven't been able to focus!

for all your comments, feedback and interaction!

I thought I'd just post a bunch of random shots this time...no particular order. I also have quite a few more group shots this time!

May 31st
12/12: Day 51
Bloom: Day 45

again for looking!