Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow

[Danishoes21]

PERSONAL SATIVA
X
DUTERTES NIGHTMARE

Pre defol and training.

first node branch.

2nd node branch.

Structure. This is only preflowering. This is a spear in the making.

Foliar feed intense, no water in roots. Tomorrow morning we check again.





MAlawi / haze Ace seeds regular.

It’s probably one of my favourite all times. I wanna have this around. The structure is top level. This is a well designed cross. And this pheno is rather dark green and heavy coated fan leaves. Already has a stem rub very interesting. Please be a male.


Honduras Ace seeds.

Interesting in its own way. Not sure where this one is heading but let it ride.
I have them in small pots, they sure already outgrown these pots. I want them to stress, they got no choice.

 

[Danishoes21]

DUTCH DURBAN
X
DUTERTES NIGHTMARE

HST
Foliar after each session. Underestimate the effect of high dose silica found in horsetail, big big effect in cell wall repair and cell division. 2 things right now in the foliar feed, horsetail and Willow. I’m bombing them every day. Haven’t use Neem oil once.
Since these 2 are vegging/preflowering I can get away with dusk spraying. In flower I’m still testing, I seen high dose of Willow burns my pistils and even higher will burn the leaf (I tried at full concentration it’s intense).

 

[Azimuth]

Since these 2 are vegging/preflowering I can get away with dusk spraying. In flower I’m still testing, I seen high dose of Willow burns my pistils and even higher will burn the leaf (I tried at full concentration it’s intense).

I see similar in my tests of rooting with willow water. A full strength soak of cuts was too much and it fried them. Good news to me since it means my stockpile will need to be diluted for use and thus increase my effective supply.

Do you keep your Mother Tea over the winter months for use again in the spring? According to Master Cho and his Jadam method, there is never a reason to clean out the storage containers and the extracts just get better and more powerful with age.

And, although he doesn't speak to it, I think that the freeze/thaw cycles of winter help further break down the cell walls of the material making for an even more effective juice the following spring. Liquids expand when they freeze, and thus break the cell walls built to hold a smaller volume.

Good stuff, Dani. In another month or so I'll resurrect the JMS thread for fending off mold and bud rot and see if anyone is going to give that experiment another go, but you may have solved the riddle already with your HTF/Willow spray.

 

[Danishoes21]

I see similar in my tests of rooting with willow water. A full strength soak of cuts was too much and it fried them. Good news to me since it means my stockpile will need to be diluted for use and thus increase my effective supply.

Do you keep your Mother Tea over the winter months for use again in the spring? According to Master Cho and his Jadam method, there is never a reason to clean out the storage containers and the extracts just get better and more powerful with age.

And, although he doesn't speak to it, I think that the freeze/thaw cycles of winter help further break down the cell walls of the material making for an even more effective juice the following spring. Liquids expand when they freeze, and thus break the cell walls built to hold a smaller volume.

Good stuff, Dani. In another month or so I'll resurrect the JMS thread for fending off mold and bud rot and see if anyone is going to give that experiment another go, but you may have solved the riddle already with your HTF/Willow spray.

Azi I love your the JMS thread and every time anyone asks about how to make teas, I will always refer them to that thread. The information is approachable and digestible.
There are books about this stuff, I don’t understand why it seems sooo hard to believe for some, that this thing about plant fermentation and nutrient availability is real and very effective, and may I also add inexpensive.

Btw I did 3 new clones from my photos. Sprayed with willow and will do a willow 2 weeks spraying program, as soon as I have a result I will post it in the thread.

I will keep the tea going for sure I might do a fall harvest of organic matter and let it sit all winter. Next year I will add the organic leftovers to my soil.
I haven’t started my worm bin, not because I am slacker but because I am all over the place and been postponing it. I will do it eventually.

 

[Azimuth]

There are books about this stuff, I don’t understand why it seems sooo hard to believe for some, that this thing about plant fermentation and nutrient availability is real and very effective, and may I also add inexpensive.

It's because there's no money in it for those with the marketing dollars to convince you to buy their manufactured product. Just like our Healthcare system.

Most of us would be much better off if doctors convinced us to exercise and eat healthy, but there's no recurring money in treating us that way. But there's plenty of money to be had by writing us a prescription for a magic pill we have to take for the rest of our lives. And, handy enough, that magic pill produces side effects that we can treat with yet other magic pills each with their own side effects that can also be treated with more magic pills.

I might do a fall harvest of organic matter and let it sit all winter.

From what I've read it's the new, vigorous spring growth that have the highest concentrations of the stuff we want so maybe start another container sooner for more benefit?

 

[Danishoes21]

It's because there's no money in it for those with the marketing dollars to convince you to buy their manufactured product. Just like our Healthcare system.

Most of us would be much better off if doctors convinced us to exercise and eat healthy, but there's no recurring money in treating us that way. But there's plenty of money to be had by writing us a prescription for a magic pill we have to take for the rest of our lives. And, handy enough, that magic pill produces side effects that we can treat with yet other magic pills each with their own side effects that can also be treated with more magic pills.


From what I've read it's the new, vigorous spring growth that have the highest concentrations of the stuff we want so maybe start another container sooner for more benefit?

It’s like you read my mind. On that first answer.

I have a 2 stage system going. 100lts container has all raw inputs, this is the pit, this has the funky really intense smell, it’s not a beautiful image. It’s basically a water based compost facility only for plant material.
The second container 1000lts, this is the “refined “ tea, this is where I add a sweetener and close the lid. It ferments a second time with even less oxygen coming in.
The liquid content of this container is the one that I use yet again on a 20 ltr jug to make the willow fermentation and the horsetail fermentation.
It’s a circle cycle

This time around since I fenced the garden area and basically no one is allowed inside with out me, no one complains about smells or anything. I’m glad the goats are free range and shit every where it’s smells like goat crap lol not Dani’s messed up plant elixirs.

The latest evolution of my raw stage 1 process has been; the introduction of my first fish emulsion. After almost 2 months the fish carcass and organic material basically dissolved and became water. I added half of the raw liquid to my first stage. It smells awful, took 4 days for smells to vanish… after I saw bubbles again I took 20lt jerrycan full and added that to my 2 stage bin.
Yesterday morning I used for the first time on my plants for root drench. They didn’t die so I think it’s good.

2 missions for this fall;
Leave the mother tea over winter
Create a 100lt fish emulsion over winter.(I will have to do this far away).

 

[Azimuth]

100lts container has all raw inputs, this is the pit, this has the funky really intense smell, it’s not a beautiful image. It’s basically a water based compost facility only for plant material.

I've been wanting to try adding LAB to my fermentation jugs for the smell. LAB is also supposed to be helpful in breaking down the material.

But I made up a liter of LAB solution (1:10 I think?) and gave it to my buddy with a fishing boat to spray on smelly stuff. He said it worked great. I've used it to spray on other organic smells and it really knocks down the smell almost instantly. Master Cho Sr. uses a version of this to virtually eliminate the smell from pig farms, no easy task.

The smell is, i think, one of the major barriers to folks wanting to try this approach, and finding a way around that would likely make it more acceptable.

 

[Danishoes21]

11:30 am light.


The Mango Auto.-

Outdoor foxtails
Started drought like conditions on the 5th of July until the 15th July. No rain forecast so it will work. Senescence is started lower and really older fans starting to fade.

Can you HST an Auto?
YES!!

Can Auto flows be stunt?
YES!! so can any other plant if not handled properly.

Does Ruderalis have phenotypic expressions?
I would like to think Ruderalis is no different from Indicas and Sativas. It still acts and reacts as a photoperiod cultivar.

I was looking to answer my own questions.
I wouldn’t suggest anyone do this to their autos. But try it out if you don’t care $$ about the seeds.



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Side note:
3rd defol and sucker branch removal on my tomatos, this is how I learnt to bend and crack stems. Tomatos are such a great learning experience from feeding a schedules to Pest Prevention regimes and sooo many other things, plus you get to eat the fruit.

I trow it in my raw bin, in 2 weeks the tomato foliage is dissolved, all the nutrients back to the water/tea. And then back to the plant when I water and foliar with the tea.
Full circle.

 

[Sparkey224]

Auto looks fire bro. Sugar stacking up..I'm all about the drought too .great job D!
Loving the tomatoes plants too.

 

[gwhunran]

My Wedding Cake and SuperSweet100 (little tomatoes) behind her. She's starting to flower and the tomato plant is loaded.

Wedding Cake in front stretching and starting to flower, Tomato plant in the back loaded with little tomatoes.

 

[Danishoes21]

Auto looks fire bro. Sugar stacking up..I'm all about the drought too .great job D!
Loving the tomatoes plants too.

Respect my G, I seen your flower power bro, its highly appreciated your compliments. Counting days for first tomatos to ripen, Im thinking with the heat we got on the island now, End of July I might my firsts tomatos at lest a cherry variety.

Much love GG.

 

[Danishoes21]

My Wedding Cake and SuperSweet100 (little tomatoes) behind her. She's starting to flower and the tomato plant is loaded.

Wedding Cake in front stretching and starting to flower, Tomato plant in the back loaded with little tomatoes.

Stunning

You got yourself a competition there brother, which can give the biggest yields??. So I get it now this is the one plant your guest get to see. No way you can hide that one lol

 

[Danishoes21]

PERSONAL SATIVA
X
DUTERTES NIGHTMARE

Pre defol and training.

first node branch.

2nd node branch.

Structure. This is only preflowering. This is a spear in the making.

Foliar feed intense, no water in roots. Tomorrow morning we check again.





MAlawi / haze Ace seeds regular.

It’s probably one of my favourite all times. I wanna have this around. The structure is top level. This is a well designed cross. And this pheno is rather dark green and heavy coated fan leaves. Already has a stem rub very interesting. Please be a male.


Honduras Ace seeds.

Interesting in its own way. Not sure where this one is heading but let it ride.
I have them in small pots, they sure already outgrown these pots. I want them to stress, they got no choice.

Follow up on yesterday’s HST;

DUTCH DURBAN X DUTERTE’s

PERSONAL SAT. X DUTERTE’s

It’s too early to tell, but I am dying to know if this is the so called “scorpion tail pheno trait”.
That’s the bract and it has a shape… just waiting for the pistil to pop.
The buds to be on this pheno are gonna be something I have never seen. Obviously in part because I could not finish flowering my gear last season.


Watered roots, and heavy foliar before direct sun exposure. By later this evening they will be all praying again for that 9pm sunset.



BC LWG

 

[Danishoes21]

Forgot I had One more Auto flow…

I call this one Berries. She is doing good actually, sizing up and lots of Trichomes can’t complain. Showing some discolouration on mainly fan leafs. She has been thru a lot so, if she wanna give me 3 more weeks of bud growth I would be down for that.

Next stop the 5 outdoor bush ones… lots of work today.

 

[Sparkey224]

Follow up on yesterday’s HST;

DUTCH DURBAN X DUTERTE’s

PERSONAL SAT. X DUTERTE’s

It’s too early to tell, but I am dying to know if this is the so called “scorpion tail pheno trait”.
That’s the bract and it has a shape… just waiting for the pistil to pop.
The buds to be on this pheno are gonna be something I have never seen. Obviously in part because I could not finish flowering my gear last season.


Watered roots, and heavy foliar before direct sun exposure. By later this evening they will be all praying again for that 9pm sunset.



BC LWG

That's awesome bro, that Jamaican skunk x DN going to be a excellent cross bro.
#BC LWG

 

[con]

Forgot I had One more Auto flow…

I call this one Berries. She is doing good actually, sizing up and lots of Trichomes can’t complain. Showing some discolouration on mainly fan leafs. She has been thru a lot so, if she wanna give me 3 more weeks of bud growth I would be down for that.

Next stop the 5 outdoor bush ones… lots of work today.

That's one tall & thick auto, no LST 90 degree training when a seedling ?

 

[Danishoes21]

That's one tall & thick auto, no LST 90 degree training when a seedling ?

Yeah I didn’t mess around too much with this one because of the medium I’m using on it. It’s a Sub Irritated planter but I access the reservoir… I had her over watered for long time and also every time I tried to pinch and bend that apical dominant top it would not like it… I think she got set back a couple times because all that extra non planned stress…

She is really behind the mango auto. Same sprout date, different medium and training. Not the same results I would say. I think it’s better to pinch, bend and once they pick up tie down the beast.

Like you tie down and that works like a charm. Boosting energy to all the surface of the branch.

 

[con]

Yeah I didn’t mess around too much with this one because of the medium I’m using on it. It’s a Sub Irritated planter but I access the reservoir… I had her over watered for long time and also every time I tried to pinch and bend that apical dominant top it would not like it… I think she got set back a couple times because all that extra non planned stress…

She is really behind the mango auto. Same sprout date, different medium and training. Not the same results I would say. I think it’s better to pinch, bend and once they pick up tie down the beast.

Like you tie down and that works like a charm. Boosting energy to all the surface of the branch.

I see, I could of just gone back a bit to review but my cell service sucks out here & have to position the body in a uncomfortable position, thanks for the answer, your willow bark solution you use is that not a stressor for plants ? I was thinking of burying a pike in my soil like the natives did with their corn think it would work or better putting it in a blender & fermenting I'm thinking about next summers grow & trying organic don't think I will reach your level but thinking of trying Ghia green product

 

[CaptainLucky]

You know bro, honestly sometimes I am afraid to call people by the phenotype sex I see on the outside, he or she has now become a bomb threat. I don’t know anything about male or female anymore.
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“What is the difference between condescending and patronizing?

Very few words in English have exactly the same meaning; even words which appear to be entirely synonymous often will be found to have small differences in certain contexts. The words condescending and patronizing present a fine example of this. At first glance these words appear to be defined somewhat circularly: condescendingoften has the word "patronizing" in its definition, and patronize is defined, in part, as “to adopt an air of condescension toward.”

But both of these words have specialized senses that lend a shade of meaning to their synonymous senses. Patronizing can mean "giving support to" or "being a customer of," suggesting that the "condescending" sense implies superiority gained through a donor-dependent relationship.

The verb condescend used to be free of any hint of the offensive superiority it usually suggests today. It could mean literally "to go or come down" or, figuratively, "to willingly lower oneself to another’s level," senses that are still occasionally encountered in writings on the Bible. The idea of self-consciously lowering oneself is implied in the "patronizing" sense of condescending“

Mister popularity probably didn’t know the meaning of the words he used… but it’s ok a fuck up…
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Since then I’m finding peace somewhere else.

Hope you are having a great end of the week TC. Much love man

Thanks for your tutorial on the use of proper grammar in the year 2023. Lmao CL

 

[Danishoes21]

Outdoor gang;

I haven’t been here in several days, that’s on me. I’m trying to not baby these phenos. The whole purpose of putting here in the “hostil” environment is for them to build up character and show phenotypic expressions.

The personal Sativa x Duterte’s pheno here is almost a copy of the mom… it’s going to be a November if ever finishing pheno. What a difference in every single aspect of plant morphology these two phenos. This one outside doesn’t have that vigorous growth and doesn’t have the tight nodes. I still like her for her Genotype but if it’s a male do I really want that around?

With the Dutch Durban X Duterte’s here well I got this one on a horizontal lock. And each side branch then trained. I find it’s picked up the pase a lot but still not even close to the other one in the pot. Tremendous difference. If male I could IBL but I risk of echoing exponentially this type of pheno traits the slow bushy stocky indica looking Durban. Hopefully it’s just flower here.

Last but not least Duterte’s Nightmare is the boss in this plot. Just crazy exploding force. Excellent structure, well balanced. Everything is growing not just the top. It’s moving like a snake to one of my corner post at the fence, I will make her go up the post if I have to.

PERSONAL SAT. X DUTERTES

“PINK KUSH”

“SUPER LEMON HAZE”

DUTERTES NIGHTMARE

Show me that pistil!!

DUTCH DURBAN X DUTERTES