Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow

[ReservoirDog]

Either way, if the weather stays even sorta decent you should pull lotsa zeds. Love that personal sativa, and the facehugger with labia. They`re not the same ones, are they.... anyway, that theory is a swing and that`s about it. Concerned if suddenly summer hits hard they try to reveg. Might have to cover them. Again, a swing.

 

[Melville Hobbes]

I think the photoperiod needed to trigger flowering should be revised; I’m not too sure that it’s a thing about 12 hours of dark that gets plants to flower,

My plants always go into flower late July, sometimes a bit closer to the middle of the month.
I get buds building between August 1st (like the Bruce Banners last year) and August 10th like the Blue Dreams the year before.
Some growers think twilight hours have something to do with it.

 

[Danishoes21]

Either way, if the weather stays even sorta decent you should pull lotsa zeds. Love that personal sativa, and the facehugger with labia. They`re not the same ones, are they.... anyway, that theory is a swing and that`s about it. Concerned if suddenly summer hits hard they try to reveg. Might have to cover them. Again, a swing.

Well I have 2 different seed piles the one I left behind from 2017 breeding tests, I think personal Sativa should be it. And the other pile of seed is from Philippine trip which I strongly believe is the Sativa pheno in the bucket is in that category. But I did also find some resemblance (RD you have a good eye).

I hope they don’t reveg because I really don’t want to force flower (it’s labor intensive and don’t have the time to do it).

If everything goes as planned in the next 2 weeks we shall see more and more signs of flower.

 

[Danishoes21]

My plants always go into flower late July, sometimes a bit closer to the middle of the month.
I get buds building between August 1st (like the Bruce Banners last year) and August 10th like the Blue Dreams the year before.
Some growers think twilight hours have something to do with it.

That’s good to know Mel thanks for sharing. My last experience outdoors was back in 2018 and nature has changed since… I don’t really remember when they started to flower I would guess early finishing strains started around July but everything really took off into flower in August.

Your blue dream when did it finish if you don’t mind me asking? And have you a journal I can check

 

[Melville Hobbes]

That’s good to know Mel thanks for sharing. My last experience outdoors was back in 2018 and nature has changed since… I don’t really remember when they started to flower I would guess early finishing strains started around July but everything really took off into flower in August.

Your blue dream when did it finish if you don’t mind me asking? And have you a journal I can check

It finished mid-October, and it was a 2 day harvest as I got frustrated halfway through. Kinda flipped my lid. Happens every year really.
I wasn't a member here at the time, so no journal.
No pics either, unfortunately.

 

[Danishoes21]

It finished mid-October, and it was a 2 day harvest as I got frustrated halfway through. Kinda flipped my lid. Happens every year really.
I wasn't a member here at the time, so no journal.
No pics either, unfortunately.

Bummer.

Could I bug you for some insight on that? As I have never harvested anything (outdoors) past September. Even when I used a hoop house we got mold and other kinds of things after mid september.

 

[scottreid1966]

they are looking really good but how do they flower so early in the season? I thought it went based off lunar cycle?

I don't think that they are flowering just yet. According to my 2 biggest advisors, Bill and Azimuth, they are just showing their sex.

"Could I bug you for some insight on that? As I have never harvested anything (outdoors) past September. Even when I used a hoop house we got mold and other kinds of things after mid september."

My previos out grows also got mold but I knew nothing about training. Branches we too long and weak. Nugs would lean against one another and voila, mold. It is why I am trying quadlining this year. I also put them into 30 gallon fabric pots so I can rotate or turn them if need be.

 

[Danishoes21]

I don't think that they are flowering just yet. According to my 2 biggest advisors, Bill and Azimuth, they are just showing their sex.

"Could I bug you for some insight on that? As I have never harvested anything (outdoors) past September. Even when I used a hoop house we got mold and other kinds of things after mid september."

My previos out grows also got mold but I knew nothing about training. Branches we too long and weak. Nugs would lean against one another and voila, mold. It is why I am trying quadlining this year. I also put them into 30 gallon fabric pots so I can rotate or turn them if need be.

Thanks for the input Scott, and sure I totally agree with your statement they arent flowering yet.
But the first sign of hormonal change and transition from vegetative state to a florwering stage is what we call "preflowers" that little shy Calyx the holds one or 2 pistils, thats them showing their sex?

What's bugging me in the good way is I got 3 phenos that are in shade showing sex or preflowering and the other 2 are probably in veg mode.


Regarding mold and humidity issues, Im probably not the exception and will encounter some later on. Thats why I focused on spacing the plant as much as possible. But no real guarantee its going to work as the plants will probably get even bigger in the next 2 months...

 

[Melville Hobbes]

Bummer.

Could I bug you for some insight on that? As I have never harvested anything (outdoors) past September. Even when I used a hoop house we got mold and other kinds of things after mid september.

It really depends on what kind of year we're having. Usually temps and humidity drop as we get into September, with nights really starting to cool off. If the rain holds off we have really good weather for flower.
Last year we had record rainfall in September and everything got some mould. Lost a lot of that grow.
I used to try to keep the plants out of any really heavy rain under a patio umbrella, but with any heavy wind that's not really an option.
Light rain isn't too much of a problem usually, if your humidity is low the buds dry out quick enough. It's driving rain that gets deep in there and can't dry out, or high humidity that won't let them dry.

 

[Danishoes21]

It really depends on what kind of year we're having. Usually temps and humidity drop as we get into September, with nights really starting to cool off. If the rain holds off we have really good weather for flower.
Last year we had record rainfall in September and everything got some mould. Lost a lot of that grow.
I used to try to keep the plants out of any really heavy rain under a patio umbrella, but with any heavy wind that's not really an option.
Light rain isn't too much of a problem usually, if your humidity is low the buds dry out quick enough. It's driving rain that gets deep in there and can't dry out, or high humidity that won't let them dry.

Thanks for sharing and sorry for that loss of bud, something I can relate too.

The Old school grower that showed me all the tricks would tell me stuff like,"here on the island you gotta calculate a loss because you have to cut moldy bud out of the plant in order to prevent a massive attack on the operation. So cut everything you suspect has mold, and throw it in a Jar we will make tincture. As high proof alcohol will kill all mold."

On a possitive side of things if the weather keeps like this we might have a dryer than usual autumn . Fingers crossed.

 

[scottreid1966]

Made a huge move today, planted in final pots the clones, put some in pairs others alone. The seaweed as first layer at the bottom I didnt like the results, seems like the seaweed soaks up all the run off and retain to much water for my liking its screaming problems. So Re arranged the layer on the final pots, compost matter, bambo shakes, Worem casting, biochar, glacial dust, bone meal, and full organic slow reales fertilizer, and composted soil, Sawdust mulch and sprayed the Sh*ts out of them with neem oil and seaweed tea.

Thats it. All in do your thing clones you have 3 months to grow up and flower. Let the best pheno win.

Thats the final lineup of good looking clones. The other 7 got smaller pots and less favorable spot in the garden. They all get to stay in the pots and no training at all. Lucky them

They are looking sweet , bro!
What's up with the wood chips? Or is it on a "need to know" basis.
Are they sativa?

 

[scottreid1966]

Like I promised TC @TwelveCoffee

This Is a freaking scary scene, Like HUGE red flag/ Note; the lemon balm right next to it is taking it like a champ no signs of mildew. Lemon balm is around the cannabis I hope it works.

Thats at least 15 ft from the Cannabis. I went Nalpam with @InTheShed mix for PM. Kill all Mildew.

You can see the Shade , over Sweet Zombie cultivar and as well on the Sativa on the big cedar pot. Possible forced flower effect? after 12pm big shade and this carries on until sunset. The garden seems to have south east sunrise and exposure but afternoon is north west sunset...

You cant really notice any Cannabis from a certain point of view.

Awesome back yard!

 

[scottreid1966]

It really depends on what kind of year we're having. Usually temps and humidity drop as we get into September, with nights really starting to cool off. If the rain holds off we have really good weather for flower.
Last year we had record rainfall in September and everything got some mould. Lost a lot of that grow.
I used to try to keep the plants out of any really heavy rain under a patio umbrella, but with any heavy wind that's not really an option.
Light rain isn't too much of a problem usually, if your humidity is low the buds dry out quick enough. It's driving rain that gets deep in there and can't dry out, or high humidity that won't let them dry.

I agree MH. Is why I got interested in droughting during flower. Since my plants are in 30 gallon pots, I will cut sheet-metal to cover the pots during the rainy season.




I think that it will not only help prevent the mold, it will increase the trichone efficienty.

Droughting and its medicinal effects in cannabis

And oh yea, about them droughted buds... NYC Diesel, Limelight (drought documented in March) now cured up Great Googly Moogly! Those buds look awesome! I'm drooling here . . . well done!

www.420magazine.com

It can be done with plastic as well.

 

[Azimuth]

To be honest I don’t know. RD has a idea that I resonate with; photo flux not being met in other to continue veg cycle. A combination of shade, weather conditions, cold days and nights, rain. All adds up I guess.
I think the photoperiod needed to trigger flowering should be revised; I’m not too sure that it’s a thing about 12 hours of dark that gets plants to flower, like @ReservoirDog mention before photo flux is something to consider. I may add that the spectrum of the light also triggers flower.

I'd challenge the photo flux idea. You can keep plants in veg with minimal light or even an interruption light period in the middle of dark.

And I think the trigger is more around 10 hours of uninterrupted dark hours, but most of us do 12 just to be safe.

 

[Azimuth]

I agree MH. Is why I got interested in droughting during flower. Since my plants are in 30 gallon pots, I will cut sheet-metal to cover the pots during the rainy season.

I like the cover idea, but that won't keep mold away from the bud if they get wet (and they will outside).

@Bode has posted that he had good success using JMS (Jadam Microbial Solution) to not only combat bud rot, but he also said it made his bud more potent.

 

[Bode]

Highya Azimuth, danishshoes, guys,

Yes, I'b a firm believer on using JMS to spray on flowering cannabis ladies before a rain spell. I try to get it to dry on the plant just before the rain comes. What happens - the good microbes (in the JMS) war against the botrytis bacteria and kill them (mostly) before they can do damage. Still get some mold, but it's minimal compared to doing nothing!! Happy Smokin'

 

[Azimuth]

Highya Azimuth, danishshoes, guys,

Yes, I'b a firm believer on using JMS to spray on flowering cannabis ladies before a rain spell. I try to get it to dry on the plant just before the rain comes. What happens - the good microbes (in the JMS) war against the botrytis bacteria and kill them (mostly) before they can do damage. Still get some mold, but it's minimal compared to doing nothing!! Happy Smokin'

And that where Bode and I differ. My view is that spraying it on  after a rain might work even better since the rain, especially a good downpour, will likely wash many of the microbes off the surfaces, so reestablishing the ones we want after the rain stops would be a good practice.

Think you might try that approach on a plant or two this season for comparison @Bode? Maybe even both before and after rain?

 

[Bode]

But - my way of thinking, I want the good microbe population to be cranking by the time the buds, botrytis temp, and humidity. Anyways, it worked for me. Happy Smokin'

 

[scottreid1966]

Hey Danish! Your back yard is a gardeners paradise. My girl would kill for it and it looks like it is facing south.

Looking forward to seeing it grow.

Had a lot of cold nights and branches are weak but was told that dandelion tea was good to strengthen branches. Making some now in my present journal. I also plan on using it as a soil amendment after harvest.

I have only grown photos. Inside, for the past 3 years, have put them in the dark for 24 hours plus the 6 hours difference between the 18 and 12. so about 30 hours of dark. Some go even longer but it sure does put them into flower.
Outside, mother nature does as she wants.
Take care.

And thank you, @Azimuth and @Bode . Will test them both.

 

[Danishoes21]

They are looking sweet , bro!
What's up with the wood chips? Or is it on a "need to know" basis.
Are they sativa?

Thanks bro Im glad they pulled thru.
The wood chips was just to mulch a bit since I was going to be out for the weekend, I overwatered them and put the wood chips as mulch to retain moisture in the pot. I'll see them tomorrow see how they made it 3 days by themselves.

And Yes they are sativa dominant 2 from the Durban Poison and 6 from the other big Sativa I got going.