Vancouver Island 2022 Organic Grow

[DeltaDubie]

Happy Solstice Everyone. Time is ticking on our favor now

That window is the one I dont like at all.

The partially shaded area by the tree is creating a micro climate that has 2 of my phenos preflowering. Also the tomatos close to that area are considerably smaller than the rest. So confirmation of less direct sunlight. Shorter Photoperiod and photo flux. @ReservoirDog


Once you walk away 20 ft cannabis plants dont seem to really stand out.

whats wrong with the window looking down into your marijuana garden with more that 4 plants?

im my limited experience growing outside its is better to grow marijuana without the sticks and supports unless
needed .. when the plants get really big the supports actually may kill the plants in a bad wind storm because

then can not bend over 90 degrees ... so many problems out doors ... do you have pm in the environment there?

 

[Danishoes21]

whats wrong with the window looking down into your marijuana garden with more that 4 plants?

im my limited experience growing outside its is better to grow marijuana without the sticks and supports unless
needed .. when the plants get really big the supports actually may kill the plants in a bad wind storm because

then can not bend over 90 degrees ... so many problems out doors ... do you have pm in the environment there?

The window not much wrong unless the person there like weed as much as I do, and later could make the poor decision to enter and chop the plants before I do.

The bunch of Bamboo is for the tomatos I have growing right next to the cannabis. My training on the phenos is mostly of pinching, bending and breaking. I had to use a couple of sticks to make space inside the plant.

Outdoors is mostly about the enviroment and less about the individual plant, from my point of view. Indoors is all about the plant and not much about the enviroment because its fixed and controled.

I have spoted PM in 2 different plants that are not the cannabis, but do affect the ecosystem. The area where the cannabis is I have heavely sprayed Neem oil to prevent most bad things from happening. For now the plants are healthy and have no sign of pest, mold, pm or critters.

 

[Danishoes21]

I held from doing any mayor stuff since solstice, almost a week after all the plants got a stretch and crazy bushy... Its hard to keep up, they out grew the bamboo sticks.
After a very hot weekend around here, today I went with a big watering/feeding a gallon each plant of mixed seaweeed plus compost tea, a galon for all the clones. Heavy again with neem like doble dose, mix with seaweed tea makes the foliar spray I used today to spray everything, thats including everything 5 ft radius from the cannabis, the whole backyard smells like neem oil.

Sweet Zombie

The cool thing about this pheno is you can really see that indica structure, the breeder says Sweet zombie is a cross with something zombie and Black Domina (Northern lights, Ortega, hashplant and Afgani)

Xenomorph aka Durban poison

This is By far one of the most crazy looking plants I've grown. I dont even know how the buds are going to be like, seems like a big amount of side shoots coming from everywhere, defol here would take like 4 hrs.

 

[Danishoes21]

Xenomorph aka Durban poison

 

[Danishoes21]

Its a long Update...

Personal Sat.

The Split is completly healed and starting to fill up and swell.

Apical dominance is almost none existing on this pheno, every other side shoot is as dominant in growth as the main stem or "main cola". No apical dominance = distribution of growth hormones.

 

[Danishoes21]

Chunky Skunk

This one broke free of the bamboo as well, so I had to rewire acouple of branches.

Gave them all a training.

 

[Danishoes21]

Every main cola I hit again to continue to stimulate side branching, to maintain the canopy free of apical dominance.

 

[Danishoes21]

Sativa Pheno (layering and cedar pot, also shaded)

I completly changed up the apical dominance of this pheno and I am also trying this training and bending. That part I bent there is the Main stem, I floded back aligned with its counter part at the bottom. All the bottom shoots are pulled out to fill the bucket to the sides, while the top shoots of this stem should go upward, not the stem. I would like the stem to stay bent like that. The node right before where the stem is bent should pick up the lead and stretch. Let us see what happens.

 

[Danishoes21]

The Clones

I cut all the weeds and grass and did a new tea. There lots in there from dandelions, plantain, comfrey, clover, different types of grass, a some flowers. My approach with this tea is I wanted to take back everything that is consuming resources from the soil and make it available again in the liquid form. Just lets this pot ferment for a couple weeks.

This is Plantain a weed and it does wonders.
Plantain Nutrients

Beta Carotene	Iron
Vitamin C	Ascorbic Acid
Calcium	Oleanolic Acid
Vitamin K	Baicalein
Allantoin	Linoleic Acid
Flavonoids	Vitamin A
Sorbitol	Aucubin

 

[Azimuth]

Plantain is also a good plant to make salve with to help with skin irritations like bug bites, poison ivy, rashes, etc.

 

[Danishoes21]

Plantain is also a good plant to make salve with to help with skin irritations like bug bites, poison ivy, rashes, etc.

We love plantain, after we started realizing all the benefits the common weeds have we let them grow. They have place and purpose in the garden and soil.

 

[Danishoes21]

I've been reading lots about apical dominance, the good, the bad...

Apical dominance

Barbier et al. give a quick guide to apical dominance, whereby a plant’s main shoot dominates and inhibits the outgrowth of other shoots.

www.cell.com

Mainlines & Manifolds: The Best Ways To Train Cannabis Plants - Cannabis Plant Training Guide -

Guide To Cannabis Plant Training - Explore the plant science behind mainline and manifold training. We define each method, explain the benefits and compare them with other methods.

www.cocoforcannabis.com

Im not sure about my technique, it might be a mix of everything I have seen. I guess after this grow, if succesful it might be worth to pass it on.

 

[Azimuth]

Thanks for the links, Danish. I'll admit though that I still prefer quadlining to manifolding or mainlining. Quicker for sure, and I think a better structured plant.

Your technique seems more related to supercropping, but without the redirection of branches. Cool idea.

 

[Danishoes21]

Thanks for the links, Danish. I'll admit though that I still prefer quadlining to manifolding or mainlining. Quicker for sure, and I think a better structured plant.

Your technique seems more related to supercropping, but without the redirection of branches. Cool idea.

Fair enough brother, I believe that every dedicated grower has their own way to do it right. I cant assure what I'm doing is gonna work until you know I harvest something.

To be fair I find myself doubting if the complete loss of apical dominance in some of the phenos I am growing is going to have a big effect on the buds (size and yield). As you can see I lost the "main top cola" as result of heavy training, so I wont have a main bud that gets all the full bulk of hormones instead I find the phenos with several (I think there is more than 8 I will count next time) well stablished and robust branches acting as "mains" with sooooo much side branching/shoots. My main concern is diluted energy.

The bulk of hormones is so spread out (my theory) that if the plant architerture (this includes roots, stems and foliage) fails to deliver the increased demand in nutrients and hormones by all this new side branching, the result would be many many small buds. Now if the demand is met this could mean many many decent or great buds. In order to deliver the increased demands I have been working on the plant structure, on the soil, specific watering regime, and foliar feeding.

Thats where I think the growers before me realized 8 is the golden ratio. They somehow figured out anything past 8 main colas dilutes the energy to a point that creates marginal results. If this is the case than I would have to say Quad is the way to go.

I've worked doing this training several times just never got to documented here on 420mag. I never did it to messure anything like yields or size of buds, I came up with this style of training because I had a limited amount of plants I could grow with no restriction on horizontal growth yet a limit on height.

I appreciate your input and everyone elses interest, I find it so cool we can share ideas with many many super talented growers outhere.

 

[Azimuth]

I love a good experiment as that's often how we learn new things. I'm hoping you get lots of bug buds!

 

[Azimuth]

I love a good experiment as that's often how we learn new things. I'm hoping you get lots of bug buds!

Wow! Sorry for that! I meant to say  BIG buds.

No one wants bugs in their buds.

 

[Danishoes21]

Wow! Sorry for that! I meant to say  BIG buds.

No one wants bugs in their buds.

no worries Azi I kinda figured it out lol No harm.

I smoke and then try typing stuff here, I end up editing all the time...

 

[TwelveCoffee]

Loving that Xeno my man if only sativas didn’t mess me up so much lok

 

[Danishoes21]

Loving that Xeno my man if only sativas didn’t mess me up so much lok

Yeah she is freaky looking but interesting one. I love sativas because It makes me feel like wanting to do things. very uplifting

 

[TwelveCoffee]

Yeah she is freaky looking but interesting one. I love sativas because It makes me feel like wanting to do things. very uplifting

Ah I think it just sends my already messed up brain and messes it up 10x faster where a Indica will slow me down and help with the running thoughts and ptsd but I don’t want my kid seeing my high until he’s a bit older don’t want that being a memory he looks back on idk I don’t mind sharing the growing experience with him but he’ll need to wait to see high dad until he’s ready to as well with that being said Murphy will come knocking sooner or later haha