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Re: Last Major Tuck and Weave

Whiskey Papa said:
Glad to have you here OMM... Its folks like yourself that give this place the great vibe it has.
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I second that. OMM has been a great friend to all of us.

Whiskey Papa- I am digging this journal! Thanks very much for the wonderful illustrated scrog tutorial.:nicethread:
 
Re: Last Major Tuck and Weave

PotPie said:
I second that. OMM has been a great friend to all of us.

Whiskey Papa- I am digging this journal! Thanks very much for the wonderful illustrated scrog tutorial.:nicethread:
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Thanks PP! I might point out that you too are a friendly face. This site always make me feel so giggly stupid. Such a wealth of good folks and info.
 
Nice little SCRoG demo there. I like the photo series. I like the line your using as well. Just like you said, its flexible, doesn't tear up the plants. Very good call.

Looking forward to no gaps in the screen.

L8ER
 
Me again WP

This site always make me feel so giggly stupid. Such a wealth of good folks and info.
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Thanks for that. That's exactly how I feel about 420. Giggly Stupid. Well, said.:grinjoint:

If and when I do a scrog. I will come back here to see how it's done properly.
Thanks.:goodjob:
 
Grooster said:
Nice little SCRoG demo there. I like the photo series. I like the line your using as well. Just like you said, its flexible, doesn't tear up the plants. Very good call.

Looking forward to no gaps in the screen.

L8ER
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LOL - no pressure or anything. I think every gap near a plant will be filled. I also wish like hell I had another 2 plants under the scrog. I originally soaked 20 seeds needing only 6-8 females. Then I got called out of town for work and had to ask a friend to move them to starters - that was a bummer. When I got back I did some emergency measures, but only 4 survived the ordeal, one of which was the male. And the Kali was stunted from the start. She barely made it to the screen. That's why I wish I had gone 4" lower.

So should be good smoke and I'm not too good at guessing weight but I think there will be a little under a square meter - so I'm hoping for avg of 2.5 to 3oz per plant with a little luck. Not big yield, but there's 8 more 21 days behind, and 8 more right behind them.
 
Grooster said:
... I like the line your using as well. Just like you said, its flexible, doesn't tear up the plants. Very good call.

L8ER
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Yubb. I can't stress enough how amazingly happy I am with it. It was a pure coincidence I saw it walking through the store. Anyways - the whole experience was one of my more pleasing diy mini-success days. Not only does it flex a little, but its coated so it actually sort of sticks where you want it. After wire screens its really like a whole different world.
 
Good news and bad news today.

The bad watering schedule the last days has definitely taken its effect on the girls. I may even lose the Kali-Mist clone (the rockwool dried last nite completely). Its not the end of the world, as I plan to take budding clones on the 15th (21 days of flower).

I also forgot to reopen the valves going to the flowering buckets, so the entire flowering area was not getting water the last 10 hours. All fixed now.

The good news is - all the bins are in and all zones operational, so we'll have to see if I can get the girls back to health.

However, I think I upped the nutes for the veg and clones a little much, so I have to let those cool down a little. I diluted the reservoirs a little just now, but I might have to Clearex the whole group. I'm hoping to avoid this because I have it scheduled for Sunday, and I 'd rather not dump all the fresh nutes put in the last two days.

I have put in lots of hours lately, and I am plain worn down. A couple of all niters to make sure timers and thermostats were doing their thing. I think it has caught up with me - so I'm gonna relax a little. Its definitely time to let both the girls and me have a little break from the construction and setup. I have to say its a nice feeling standing in the room now, with very little that actually HAS to be done.

OK, bong hits, afternoon soup and meal, then a nap on the couch. Laters.
 
Looks like all that hard work is about to pay some kind dividends! Nice work Whisky Papa, I like how you are willing to examine all aspects of the grow. You never know when you'll find that variable or missing piece that makes a system work better. +reps
 
obxgardener said:
Looks like all that hard work is about to pay some kind dividends! Nice work Whisky Papa, I like how you are willing to examine all aspects of the grow. You never know when you'll find that variable or missing piece that makes a system work better. +reps
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Thanks !!! I'm a big fan of all your work - and the advice I see you give. It always seems to be very clear and spot on.

Mother Nature takes care of sooooooo many things we don't understand. Its amazing. And it fascinates me the way its all tied together. I am finally starting to learn some tiny pieces to faking it, but really we need to be creating an entire eco-system in our hydro grows - and I won't even pretend to think I can do that like nature. And there's literally no end to the things you can learn to get better.

That's also why I decided to do the controller in the first place. I wanted to see if I understand enough pieces of the equation to quantify the elements. Writing the code is intuitive for me, so its really more of a challenge to see if I can figure out first what needs to be monitored or controlled - and why - then I figure out how.
 
Whiskey Papa said:
Glad to have you aboard, TheCriMsonK20. I'll definitely accept and prolly need help from as many programmers as we can find. This is being coded in pBASIC. Its BASIC with a few extra commands for the chip. There are a total of 62 commands in the pBASIC toolkit. It is then compiled to run on a BASIC Stamp PIC chip. It executes a couple of thousand commands a second and has about 2K of memory.

I've not used the AIR libraries - I was thinking about that kind of a thing, but I don't want to have to have a pc hooked up. This will run standalone, and spit out data to the serial port if you have a pc plugged in. As far as using Flash, although I went to Macromedia's User conference way back in 96 and was a fan of Director like noone, I can't seem to be too thrilled with Flash. It's great for making banners and web advertising. It fakes everything else - can be used - but I wouldn't. It is just too close to a Java or Javascript if you're trying to do a real anything. And with the open source libraries available now - its pretty doable to build even cross platform apps from scratch. Unless you have to worry about coding a graphics engine.

Didn't mean to go off there. I am baked and you got me thinking about Flash. At first I was like that would be cool, then I talked myself out of it as you can see. I just retyped that paragraph like 87 times.
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Yeah I understand where you're coming from. Since they came out with AS3 though, its syntax is pretty identical to Java, and you can take a complete object oriented approach, so it's a really fun powerful language, but outside of the web, I can definitely think of more stable platforms. I mentioned the AIR libraries because they allow interaction with the PC, and you can control a lot of the IO ports. My friend is doing a home automation project using the AIR libraries and it's interesting to see what he has come up with.

you sound like you know what you're doing, so I'm excited to see how it turns out. I want to build an automation system too, but I need to build the grow medium before I get into the automation. All in good time.
 
TheCriMsonK20 said:
Yeah I understand where you're coming from. Since they came out with AS3 though, its syntax is pretty identical to Java, and you can take a complete object oriented approach, so it's a really fun powerful language, but outside of the web, I can definitely think of more stable platforms. I mentioned the AIR libraries because they allow interaction with the PC, and you can control a lot of the IO ports. My friend is doing a home automation project using the AIR libraries and it's interesting to see what he has come up with.

you sound like you know what you're doing, so I'm excited to see how it turns out. I want to build an automation system too, but I need to build the grow medium before I get into the automation. All in good time.
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I really don't know anything about the AIR libraries. But I guess my starting point was a standalone machine - so I never even investigated that avenue. On the Flash - I just suck at Flash so I'm bitter;)

I have run myself down, so I'm finding it difficult to motivate tonight to get anything else done - but I really want to get that CO2 monitor and controller operational in the next few days to a week.
 
How are you Whiskey? I'm back and I am diggin the progress you have made and like the scrog. I will have to try this on my next bunch. :peace:
 
Whiskey Papa said:
I have run myself down, so I'm finding it difficult to motivate tonight to get anything else done - but I really want to get that CO2 monitor and controller operational in the next few days to a week.
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Hey WP take yourself a well-deserved break my man. Your almost to a place where stuff just pretty much takes care of itself. Get yer batteries charged back up and then back to work! Keep up the good work man.

L8ER
 
Wow - what a great site this is. I was poking in to do a quick update, and I can't tell you how nice it is to get the words of kindness up here. I won't try to thank everyone individually cause I would just repeat the same words of gratitude - and as you all know I type too much anyways.

So - gonna make my quick update - and then feeling newly revitalized - gonna finish the room. I think I should be able to cross off all the last of the to-do's today.

I got good sleep last nite. So did the girls. All but one of the plants is looking great.

The Kali-Mist clone is not gonna make it. Our first casualty. I'm frankly not too broken up by this. Her mom has struggled to keep up with the other plants. I will take 2 budding clones tomorrow to give her a 3rd and final try to impress me. She is just 1000x more sensitive to nutes and water than the others. If I was doing just Kali (which may happen if the clones are good) then it would be no problem. But in a garden this small - real estate is at a premium - you gotta thrive to survive in my space.

On the other hand - Montana seems to be doing ok after her 5 hours in a car wrapped in a wet paper towel and in a baggie. She arrived as a snippet. So I cut the end and stripped some outer for the clone gel and started her going. Seems she's doing ok so far.

Now gonna put up my checklist of to-dos - this is more for me than y'all. I'm gonna get very baked and work through it slowly, and I just want to have an easy list to come back to.

Today:

  • Finish Curtains - FFS its about time
  • re-route the CO2 in Flower area
  • replace the Perlite in the clone dome (get pics before and after)
  • Clean and ShopVac everything
  • Photos
  • maybe get some work done on the Controller
Tomorrow:

  • BUDDING CLONES!!! A first for me. Been doing lots of research - need any tips!
  • Controller
    • Get the Temp/Hum sensor online and operational
    • Get the CO2 Sensor online and operational or at least know what else is needed to make it work.
    • Finish the Schematic (might just be draft and that's ok)
    • Figure out whether to begin soldering the sensor module for placement in the room or just a temp breadboard for testing in room
    • Same with the controller module - solder or breadboard first?
Sat/Sun:

  • Drain/Flush/Clearex both Flowering Res
  • Drain/Flush/Clearex Veg and Mom res
  • While Mom's are empty:
    • Connect Mom's DTW line
    • Connect Mom's Fresh Water in
    • Connect Mom's overflow to Waste
Fun Fun Fun.

Thanks again everyone. And PLEASE - if you have any suggestions I really do want to hear them. I know I can sound like I'm set in my ways or whatever, but I promise I really do want and need any advice anyone can give.
 
I'd breadboard anything that you aren't 100% of will work if you need to rip it out.

Getting stuff out of a soldering, especially with many pins in it is a bitch do to and can potentially damage your component if you heat it too much.
 
Stakkur said:
I'd breadboard anything that you aren't 100% of will work if you need to rip it out.

Getting stuff out of a soldering, especially with many pins in it is a bitch do to and can potentially damage your component if you heat it too much.
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I think you're right. I was trying to slowly let lazyness creep in and skip a step. Thanks for getting me back on track.
 
Andy Botwin said:
What's good Whiskey!?!?
Just wanted to let ya know that I am in awe of your growing prowess and I've been lurking since the start and learning silently bro:nomo:

Thanks for sharing;)
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Thanks Much! Coming from one of Agrestic's leading citizens I appreciate it greatly. Lets hope I don't have to burn down the town or slam my balls in a drawer to make this work!
 
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