Twelve12's Breeding Program

Look at this little beauty

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Is this what you was refering to earlier in your journal?
 
hey 12 i have only 4 plants for breeding going at this time, and 2 are the same strain, so 3 strains not to many combos to be made with 3 1 the purple maroc is the only feminized so if i get 3 males from the others she will be brushed in 2 areas with different daddys but i have good luck with getting females in my setup, almost to good, i struggle to have males most of the time, what can i say the ladies love me!! almost as much as i love them lol:adore:

doode GODSPEED that ling is awesome!! is that one of yours!?
 
maybe a cs treatment? get some fem seeds that way, maybe breed her for seed?
 
bigirishdoode said:
maybe a cs treatment? get some fem seeds that way, maybe breed her for seed?
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Therein lies the problem for some breeders: a plant with auto-flower properties cannot be vegged, and is not a good candidate for cloning. Any offspring, even if bred with Sativa, or Indica, might still show the Ruderalis properties and flower automatically, no matter what the photoperiod. Thus some find this undesirable and will keep them out of the breeding schedule.
 
jandre2k3 said:
Therein lies the problem for some breeders: a plant with auto-flower properties cannot be vegged, and is not a good candidate for cloning. Any offspring, even if bred with Sativa, or Indica, might still show the Ruderalis properties and flower automatically, no matter what the photoperiod. Thus some find this undesirable and will keep them out of the breeding schedule.
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yeah i totaly understand that but rudys are getting huge nowadays and a pheno like that could be quite the hot item and would be fun to play with, i myself only do with sativa ans indica but im not ruling out rudys forever, i just wanna get mt stuff together first:thumb::thumb:
 
Thank you, Dr.RedWhite. Breeding is fun there isn't enough time to play with them, we will enjoy the time we have and hope one day the creation is out there in the hands of the people. The more I get into breeding the more I fall in love with this plant. Looking forward to hear how yours turns out. If you have a journal up that would be great we can learn from one another. That's great to know what you want from your cross. Potency plant finishes fast is a perfect indoor plant. It has to be easy to grow to make the adventure more enjoyable. I know what you mean on the lack of time to try different strains out there. Single seed purchase is best when comes to trying out many different strains.

Mark30g, great to hear your plants are doing well. Hydro to me offers rapid growth in both veg/bloom stages when everything is going smoothly. Good idea on checking out products locally and buy it online, haha, I do that too. I find most grow medium best to get it locally since they are often oversize and weight tons saved on shipping. The store I go to gives me 15% each order on top of great prices. What fan size will you be getting? Thanks again on the Firestorm, haha "Firestone" I like that reminds me of the bone age millions years ago. I beat they were smoking some good stuff too in the wild. I'll continue to work on her and see gems hidden in F2.

Very nice, GodSpeed! Yes, my male Firestorm (#6) has something similar. It has 4 fan leaves per node. Normally Cannabis has 2 per node and they stack. It's a rare occurrence and will use it to create F2 and look for repeating traits.

bigirishdoode, hope you get one male at lease to get your breeding program started. If not you can always get more regular seeds. Most seed bank sells regular for 1/2 the price of fem seeds. In the future it will be reverse since the male plant holds the key to further the genetics. Even with a couple of strains you can get tons of new variety, they are hidden in F2 and beyond.
 
Small update

~ Out of 3x Berry Bomb regular seeds I got 2x females and 1x male. Plan for this male to cross it with the female for F2, and cross the male with the available females (under 4x weeks) in flower. I can predict some really nice purple/blue colors in some phenos in F2. Can't wait!

~ 1x confirmed Snow White female out of two regular seeds.

~ 4x Ice Age (Downtown Stumble (Vanilla Kush x Grapefruit Diesel) x ATA Tundra), my cross just went into flower in 2L bottle. Can't wait to see them develop interested in seeing genetic contribution from ATA Tundra to the mix.

~ Trying to resist myself from ordering more regular seeds...
 
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Twelve12 said:
~ Out of 3x Berry Bomb regular seeds I got 2x females and 1x male. Plan for this male to cross it with the female for F2, and cross the male with the available females (under 4x weeks) in flower. I can predict some really nice purple/blue colors in some phenos in F2. Can't wait!

~ 1x confirmed Snow White female out of two regular seeds.

~ 4x Ice Age (Downtown Stumble (Vanilla Kush x Grapefruit Diesel) x ATA Tundra), my cross just went into flower in 2L bottle. Can't wait to see them develop interested in seeing genetic contribution from ATA Tundra to the mix.

~ Trying to resist myself from ordering more regular seeds...
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It's alive, it's aliiiive! Your a mad scientist with tons of support from your community. :adore:
 
i decided to pop some of the first cross i ever made i call it "trailor trash" i figure it has some hidden traits i have not seen, its real close to a 50/50 the mother was a short fat indica and dad is the strain i have going now,both are good in my setup, cold and heat tolerant, it just needs some work in the potency and aroma areas ,plus i figure more options are better, who knows what goodies are hiding in their genes, so 2 of the cross and 2 that are from the indica after it heat stressed ,hermed,and selfed some seeds(i have grown the hermie seeds out before so far i have only seen 1 herm out of 27 i have germed the rest have been female) and that was only after it got heat and light stressed late in flower and produced a few bananas,, see i just cant bring myself to throw out any seeds:thumb: and im glad i didnt, cuz if i had i would have lost that genetic, but i can say for sure hermi seeds from heat stress are fine and 100% female, so what are your thought on this idea?
 
My breeding schemes have for years been to make reasonably alike plants from good seeds. I normally would cross a Indica with a hybrid or solid Sativa hopefully to get the uniformity I like from F1 crosses and pretty good vigor. An overiding factor is use plants with a heavy layer of tricomes and a strong high. It looks like my feminized pollen plan is on the right track. Doing it this way if you have an awesome plant you can duplicate it and get the natural vigor seed give without having to cull the males thus freeing up your veg space to use as flower space. If all goes well the female pollen from my Diesel clone will be used on my AKxsk#1, AKxWhite Widow and on another Diesel. These seeds will figure in on my growing for years to come. After testing I may do some trading in genetics for future breeding programs.
 
RE autoflowers...I have read some journal here where "some" autoflowers will not begin their "auto character" until they have their first night. Keep them in 24/0 and take clones. Then give them a lights out to begin the process. I'd rather just use a reg seed, but keep getting these bogus fem autos in each order. I'll test it out later this spring.
 
Appreciate that, Lord Indica. Actually I'm not mad at all, and not even a scientist. Maybe I was. Keep getting dreams that I had memory wiped after being released from top secret projects with the federations back in the days…may have created destruction, at least this new awakening I want to be part with creation.

bigirishdoode, what's the story behind the strain Trailor Trash? What are the parents of this strain? For potency cross it with good genetics strains that has high potency to increase your finding. Seeds from hermie plant will pass on its genetic. They may appear to be feminized but actually a some percentage of hermie are there, may become activate with the slightest stress during flowering, or it may appear right off the bat. Give it a grow to find out, there are still pure female among the bunch too.

Dr.RedWhite, that's a great idea. That way you get fem seed with different genetics while having Diesel traits. Speaking of feminizing I'm starting this during the Summer, locking in my favorite strains in my collection.

OG13, awesome try it out! I have never play with autos just because I can't take cuttings and running SOG will require tons of fem auto seeds. If your test shows that 24/0 on will not flower autos then I may give it a grow. Could be a myth since auto is a strain that ignores any light cycle and still flower when reach maturity. How is your breeding box going?
 
OG13 said:
RE autoflowers...I have read some journal here where "some" autoflowers will not begin their "auto character" until they have their first night. Keep them in 24/0 and take clones. Then give them a lights out to begin the process. I'd rather just use a reg seed, but keep getting these bogus fem autos in each order. I'll test it out later this spring.
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What was the source of that write-up? I like the prospect of keeping autos at bay for a while, but, isn't 24/0 semi harmful to plants in general?
 
wow them are some sexy looking seeds! such detailed and prominent markings.
seed supplier need to up there game because i almost never find seeds this nice when i purchase them, there always medium to small and the markings never stand out, almost like seeds are still underdeveloped..

you mind sending two of them puppies my way?? ehhhh, ehhhh ? ;)
 
Thank you, preprodigy. Remember looks can be deceiving. Though these may look unique it may not be dank. I have to grow them out to know.

The patterns on this one seem like someone pour lines of ink on the water surface, then run their finger through the middle.

The seed from one of my favorite strain is actually quite small and looks under develop. It's proven to me that we can't tell from looking at the seed. Does not mean we can't find something useful, even the beauty of it should inspire. Best to grow them and find out! Pop 2 of these next week. Don't have many of this one.
 
nice! so its true that size of the seed has nothing to do with its strength or fertility?? i was always under the impression that the larger seeds, that are darker with strong distinct acents were ones that had longer to fully mature and therefore would be stronger genetics, not nessesarely thc strenngth genetics, but over all plant health from the begining, eg.

itll pop faster, break soil faster, ect..

no?

learning something everyday on this site haha
thanks for info 12/12 :)
 
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